The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Cory Doctorow, a journalist and science fiction author known for his work on digital rights, dives deep into the concept of enshittification—the decline of online platforms. He unpacks how this decay happens, starting with Google's 2019 changes and extending to how other industries are affected. Doctorow discusses the reasons users stick with subpar platforms, the implications of monopolies, and the importance of potential reforms in policy and collective action. He poses an intriguing question: can we ever reverse this trend?

Barbara Walter, a political scientist from UC San Diego and author of 'How Civil Wars Start,' shares insights on America's rising political violence. She highlights the dangers of partisan rhetoric and how domestic terror is largely driven by far-right actors. Walter discusses the modern patterns of insurgency and the growing public acceptance of political violence. She warns that the U.S. is in a precarious state for potential civil conflict, stressing the importance of grassroots efforts to uphold democratic norms.

Charan Ranganath, a neuroscientist and author of *Why We Remember*, explores the fascinating world of memory. He explains how memories are not mere records but rather reconstructed stories, shaping our identities and perceptions. The discussion dives into why some memories stick while others don’t, the impact of trauma on recall, and how music can evoke powerful memories. Charan emphasizes the importance of intentionality in memory and how collective memory influences group identity. He also touches on self-forgiveness and reframing past experiences for personal growth.

In a captivating discussion, Emily Baker-White, a seasoned reporter and author of *Every Screen on the Planet*, dives into TikTok's addictive nature, unveiling how its algorithm reshapes social media into an entertainment powerhouse. She highlights the fascinating blend of human moderation with AI, revealing the impact of internal tools on content visibility. Emily also explores TikTok's geopolitical implications, concerns about data privacy, and the U.S. government's attempts to regulate its operations, painting a vivid picture of the platform's cultural significance.

In this conversation, climate activist Bill McKibben, founder of 350.org and author of Here Comes the Sun, highlights the urgent need for action against climate change while offering a glimmer of hope. He discusses the astonishing growth of solar and wind energy, which have become the most affordable power sources. McKibben also reflects on the political landscape shaped by fossil fuel resistance, the lessons from Texas and Utah, and the promise of abundant clean energy to transform both the climate crisis and democracy itself.

Fara Dabhoiwala, a historian at Princeton and author of 'What Is Free Speech?', dives deep into the complexities of free speech. She challenges the notion of free speech as an absolute right, tracing its historical evolution from pamphleteers to today's digital platforms. The discussion highlights the interplay of context and power in shaping speech, the hypocrisy often found in its application, and the pressing need for responsible regulation in a media-driven world. Dabhoiwala prompts listeners to rethink the balance between expression and potential harm.

Ingrid Robeyns, a political philosopher and economist at Utrecht University, argues for capping personal wealth accumulation. She reveals how extreme wealth inequality threatens democracy and discusses the ethical responsibilities of the super-rich to support the less fortunate. Robeyns explores limitarianism as a viable solution to address wealth concentration and contrasts the American model with the successful Scandinavian social democracy. The conversation emphasizes the need to reshape our understanding of wealth and advocate for a more equitable society.

In this engaging discussion, Dan Wang, author of "Breakneck: China's Quest to Engineer the Future," sheds light on the contrasting infrastructure strategies of America and China. He explores how China's engineering-driven leadership accelerates projects while America's lawyer-centric system bogs down progress. Wang shares insights from his bike trip through Guizhou, reflecting on the nation’s rapid advancements amidst socio-political challenges. The conversation also delves into how both countries can learn from each other's economic models to address pressing issues.

Laura Field, a political theorist and author of *Furious Minds*, dives into the rise of the 'New Right' and its ideological roots that challenge American liberal democracy. She discusses the movement’s diverse factions, like Claremonters and national conservatives, and their influences on mainstream politics. Field emphasizes the importance of engagement from ordinary Americans, highlighting theobscure yet impactful ideas circulating in underground circles. This fascinating conversation uncovers the complexities and contradictions within the New Right.

Join Jonathan D. Cohen, a writer and author of Losing Big: America's Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling, as he reveals the explosive growth of sports betting in America. He discusses how tech-savvy apps lure young men into gambling, turning it into a cultural norm. Cohen highlights the social and psychological costs, including rising addiction rates among younger demographics. The conversation critiques the industry's marketing tactics, examines the parallels with financial platforms, and explores the urgent need for responsible regulations to protect vulnerable gamblers.