How To Make a Marriage Work | Chodo Robert Campbell and Koshin Paley Ellison (Co-Interviewed by Dr. Bianca Harris)

A candid, useful, and hilarious conversation.

Chodo Robert Campbell Sensei is a Zen teacher, bereavement specialist, grief counselor and a recognized leader for those suffering with the complexities of death & dying, aging, and sobriety. The educational non-profit he co-founded, the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care, touches thousands of lives every year through its numerous educational programs, contemplative retreats, and Soto Zen Buddhist practices. Chodo has been featured in the New York Times, PBS, CBS Sunday Morning and other media outlets. 

Koshin Paley Ellison is an author, Zen teacher, Jungian psychotherapist, leader in contemplative care, and co-founder of an educational non-profit called the New York Zen Center for Contemplative Care. His books, grounded in Buddhist wisdom and practice, have gained national attention. Through its numerous educational programs, contemplative retreats, and Soto Zen Buddhist practices, the New York Zen Center touches thousands of lives every year. Koshin has appeared on dozens of podcasts and his work has been featured in the New York Times, PBS, CBS Sunday Morning and other media outlets. 

In this episode we talk about:

• We get really real on the role of early childhood trauma and how that can show up in our relationships
• The importance of understanding your partner’s operating manual and how to come up with rules of the road
• The role of humor in relationships—how it can be used to successfully name the difficult parts of our partner’s personality—and how that can go wrong
• Why it’s important to do your own work outside of your relationship—in therapy and meditation or whatever is useful to you
• And the value of learning to be uncomfortable… together

Related Episodes:

• How (and Why) to Hug Your Inner Dragons | Richard Schwartz
• Escape From Zombieland | Koshin Paley Ellison
• The Surprising Power of “Healthy Embarrassment” | Koshin Paley Ellison
• The Art of Growing Up, Jerry Colonna
• Jerry Colonna, 'CEO Whisperer' and Reboot.io Founder - Dan Harris
• This Neurobiologist Wants You To Ask One Question To Reframe Anxiety, Depression, And Trauma | Dr. Bruce Perry (Co-Interviewed by Dan's Wife, Bianca!)
• The Anti-Diet | Evelyn Tribole 

Follow Dan on social: Instagram, TikTok

Subscribe to our YouTube Channel

Our favorite playlists on: Anxiety, Sleep, Relationships, Most Popular Episodes