

ICE
48 snips Sep 4, 2025
Peter Markowitz, a law professor and immigrant rights advocate, and Rodger Werner, a Homeland Security expert, delve into the complexities of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). They discuss the creation of ICE post-9/11, the historical context of immigration enforcement, and how perceptions of crime and terrorism have shaped policies. The conversation highlights the alarming increase in deportations, the impact on immigrant communities, and the ethical dilemmas within enforcement agencies. Their insights reveal the tangled web of immigration politics in modern America.
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A Day At INS After 9/11
- Rodger Werner recounts walking nearly 60 blocks on 9/11 to get to the INS office and finding massive investigative work underway.
- He describes coordinating visa overstays and preparing people for immigration judges amid chaotic lead-following.
9/11 Reordered Immigration Enforcement
- After 9/11 the U.S. reorganized immigration enforcement into DHS and created ICE to centralize counterterrorism and immigration functions.
- That restructuring prioritized information-sharing and detention as primary tools to prevent further attacks.
1990s Laws Broadened Deportation Grounds
- 1990s anti-terror and crime fears expanded deportable offenses and criminalized many nonviolent acts.
- Laws increasingly blurred criminal law and immigration enforcement, widening grounds for removal.