Dare to Lead with Brené Brown Brené and Adam Grant on the Skillsets of Empathy
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Oct 15, 2025 
In this engaging conversation, Adam Grant, an organizational psychologist and bestselling author, dives into the art of empathy with Brené Brown. They explore why empathy is a learnable skill and distinguish between affective and cognitive empathy. Brené shares a powerful tool for leaders to understand support better, while also addressing common empathy misses like judgment and comparison. Personal anecdotes highlight the importance of humility and self-awareness in building deeper connections. This discussion offers invaluable insights for anyone looking to enhance their empathetic skills.
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Cognitive Empathy Builds Connection
- Cognitive empathy connects without absorbing another's emotions and requires emotional granularity.
- Acknowledge and believe someone's experience even when it differs from your own.
Ask What Support Looks Like
- Ask the question: "What does support from me look like right now?" to avoid guessing and provide relevant help.
- Use the answer to be curious and do as much of that support as you can within limits.
Validate Before Diagnosing
- When someone shares pain, respond with brief, validating phrases like "That's hard" instead of pity or lofty analysis.
- Use simple reflection to show you get it rather than offering sympathy that feels distant.