Spotify’s Per Sandell on the business of audio, building a $2B+ ads business, and embracing the hedged garden model
Mar 25, 2024
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Per Sandell, VP of Product Management at Spotify, discusses managing subscription and ads businesses, the power of audio for brands, and innovations accelerating audio growth. Topics include advancements in audio advertising tools, data management challenges, evolving advertising models, RTB ecosystem intricacies, and Spotify's ads business.
Audio is a powerful tool for brands, Spotify focuses on subscription and ads businesses together.
Capturing transaction data is crucial for ad monetization, Spotify introduces new video ad units.
Deep dives
From Toolbar Business to Spotify: An Ad Tech Journey
Para Sandell discusses his journey from starting with web toolbars and affiliate businesses to eventually selling his company to Rakuten, highlighting how early experiences in loyalty media and user behavior data paved the way for machine learning outcomes and transaction optimizations in ad tech.
Podcast Advertising and Transaction Data Value
Para delves into the value of transaction data in advertising, citing examples from apps like Snap and Honey, emphasizing the importance of capturing transaction data as a valuable signal for ad monetization.
Spotify's Ad-Supported Growth and Creator Support
Para shares insights into Spotify's rapidly growing ad-supported user base, showcasing the platform's efforts to introduce new video ad units and self-service ad tools to support creators and enhance revenue streams.
Personalization, Machine Learning, and Ads Relevance
Discussing the nuances of personalization and machine learning, Para explains the significance of user feedback in ad relevance, the growing foreground content consumption on Spotify, and the necessity to simplify podcast ad ecosystems to enhance consumer experience and ad relevance.
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Per Sandell is the VP of Product Management at Spotify, which generated $14B+ of revenue last year. He’s leading the development and growth of its ads business. Per has a history of building performant ads systems, having helped build Snap’s ads API, self-service ad tools, and auction which has grown to $5B of annual revenue. Per discusses how Spotify manages its subscription and ads businesses together, why audio is such a powerful tool for brands, and the key innovations happening that will accelerate the growth of audio.
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