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E59: NRR vs GRR, usage vs seat-based pricing, and how to announce a product release

May 26, 2024
Discussing the impact of NRR and churn on SaaS companies, transitioning to usage-based pricing models, the significance of effective product releases, challenges of CEO's public persona, and personal growth of CEOs. Exploring product categories, innovations, and acknowledgments in various fields.
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  • Churn, not NRR, is a critical metric for assessing revenue challenges in SaaS companies.
  • Sales commissions impact revenue retention strategies and can pose challenges with increasing churn rates.

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Declining NRR in Public and Private Sales Companies

Recent data analysis showcased a decline in Net Revenue Retention (NRR) in both public and private sales companies. Public NRR decreased from 120% to 110%, while private NRR dropped from 105% to 100%. This shift raised questions about the impact of churn compared to NRR levels. David Spitz's argument emphasized that churn, not NRR, reflects the fundamental issue companies face, showcasing the relationship between churn rates and various other spending metrics like sales and marketing expenses.

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