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Dr. John Vervaeke

Exploring the Depths of Internal Family Systems with Seth Allison

Feb 14, 2024
Psychotherapy expert Seth Allison joins John Vervaeke to explore Internal Family Systems (IFS) and its connection with Jungian psychology and attachment theory. They discuss the therapeutic potential of blending IFS with emotional therapy, the value of destruction and expansion, Carl Jung's ideas and the meaning crisis, the limitations of language in describing complex phenomena, the concept of the self in IFS, attachment in family therapy, and the role of Hermes as a guide and trickster in self-exploration.
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Quick takeaways

  • Internal Family Systems (IFS) draws from family therapy principles to address internal dynamics within individuals, creating boundaries and safety within the internal system.
  • The biographies of Carl Jung and Dick Schwartz show their different approaches to understanding the self and containment, with Jung's theory focusing on the collective unconscious and archetypes, while Schwartz's IFS addresses internal conflicts and regulation of parts.

Deep dives

The Marriage of Family Therapy and Internal Family Systems

The podcast episode explores the intersection between family therapy and internal family systems (IFS). Seth Allison, a practitioner in family therapy, discusses how IFS, developed by Dick Schwartz, draws from family therapy principles to address internal dynamics within individuals. Schwartz's approach involves working with different parts of a person's internal system, much like a family therapist works with different members of a family system. The goal is to create boundaries and safety within the internal system, allowing a self-energy to emerge and regulate the parts. The attachment-based nature of IFS is highlighted, as it establishes a therapeutic relationship between the self and various parts, similar to how a therapist would create safety and responsiveness in family therapy.

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