Exploring Differences Between Jung and Mental Immaturability in Relation to Internal Family Systems

In this episode of "Voices with Vervaeke," John Vervaeke and guest Seth Allison offer an insightful exploration into the depths of psychotherapy, focusing on internal family systems (IFS) and its connections with Jungian psychology and attachment theory. John and Seth delve into the theoretical and practical realms of IFS, as founded by Dick Schwartz, highlighting its transformative potential in clinical practice. The conversation traverses the historical development of psychological theories, the intricacies of the human psyche, and the therapeutic efficacy of blending IFS with emotional therapy (EFT). By weaving together theory and practice, Seth and John illuminate the path towards healing and wholeness.

Seth Allison is a renowned psychotherapist specializing in internal family systems (IFS) and its integration with traditional psychotherapy. With years of clinical practice, Seth brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the conversation, offering valuable insights into the therapeutic journey. 

Glossary of Terms

Internal Family Systems (IFS): A psychotherapy model that emphasizes the multiplicity of the mind, suggesting that the psyche is made up of subpersonalities or parts.

Jungian Analysis: A psychotherapeutic approach based on the theories of Carl Jung, focusing on the integration of the conscious and unconscious aspects of the psyche.

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Books, Articles, and Publications

• No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model - Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/No-Bad-Parts-Restoring-Wholeness/dp/1683646681

• Many Minds, One Self: Evidence for a Radical Shift in Paradigm - Richard C. Schwartz, Robert R. Falconer 

https://www.amazon.com/Many-Minds-One-Self-Evidence/dp/0692957340/

• The Theradelic Approach: Psychedelic Therapy. Perspective, Preparation, and Practice - Sunny Strasburg, Richard Schwartz https://www.amazon.com/Theradelic-Approach-Psychedelic-Perspective-Preparation/dp/B0C7JJB5WY

• In Midlife: A Jungian Perspective - Murray Stein https://www.amazon.com/Midlife-Jungian-Perspective-Murray-Stein/dp/1630510890/

• Jung's Map of the Soul: An Introduction - Murray Stein  https://www.amazon.com/Jungs-Map-Soul-Murray-Stein/dp/0812693760/

• A Spirit of Trust: A Reading of Hegel’s Phenomenology - Robert B. Brandom https://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Trust-Reading-Hegels-Phenomenology/dp/0674976819/

Quotes

"The pursuit of wisdom and virtue from an attachment perspective could be framed as the pursuit of trust, learning of trust. It is a dangerous thing to trust, yet we can't really get to the next level without some risk. The connections we make externally and internally really are the key forward, the door to walk through." - Seth Allison [01:21:08]

Chapters 

[00:00:00] - Introduction to Seth Allison and Recap of Previous Discussions

[00:05:00] - Exploring Internal Family Systems (IFS)

[00:20:00] - Jungian Analysis and Its Intersection with IFS

[00:35:00] - Practical Applications of IFS in Therapy

[00:50:00] - The Interplay of Technique, Attachment, and Transformation in Psychotherapy

[01:05:00] - Navigating the Liminal Spaces of the Psyche with Hermes

[01:16:00] - Conclusion and Plans for Future Conversations