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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Building a meaningful career | Jason Shah (Airbnb, Amazon, Microsoft, Alchemy)

Sep 18, 2022
In this engaging discussion, Jason Shah, a seasoned product leader with a background at Amazon, Airbnb, and Microsoft, shares his insights on navigating the evolving landscape of Web3. He reflects on the impactful lessons learned from his time at Amazon and emphasizes the importance of strong leadership in fostering team morale and accountability. Jason also explores the metaphor of careers as maps versus ladders, highlighting the value of curiosity and intentional choices. His unique perspective on hiring strategies and career growth in innovative tech environments makes this conversation a must-listen.
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Quick takeaways

  • Understanding underlying goals and reframing pushback can lead to collaborative solutions.
  • Framing arguments in terms of winning and connecting with leaders' vision can generate support during pushback.

Deep dives

Understanding Goals and Alignment

Pushing back can be reframed as finding alignment in goals and issues. By understanding the underlying goal or issue that someone has, it is possible to align and find a solution that benefits both parties. For example, at Airbnb, the goal was to create a magical customer experience. By reframing the integration of a product as a trip designer, a simpler and more elegant experience, pushback transformed into a collaborative effort to achieve a shared goal.

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