

Williams, Rawls, and Legitimation Stories
Jun 19, 2020
The discussion kicks off with a clash between Bernard Williams and John Rawls on legitimacy's nature. It dives into how states craft legitimation stories amidst rising complexities in justice. The podcast scrutinizes the illusion of political equality and highlights the perils of voter suppression. It emphasizes the critical balance between input and output legitimacy, linking economic inequalities to political power. Finally, it explores the philosophical dance between freedom and tyranny, advocating for moderation in political discourse.
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Rawls vs Williams on Legitimacy
- Rawls sees legitimacy as stability grounded on a consensus of reasonable people agreeing on liberal institutions.
- Williams critiques this, saying legitimacy is about internal acceptance by actual citizens, not external philosophical standards.
Williams' Basic Legitimation Demand
- Williams' basic legitimation demand says legitimacy requires answering the first political question acceptably: protecting citizens from suffering.
- Acceptability is contextual and requires identification with the state, beyond mere safety.
States Use Stories to Shape Legitimacy
- States create legitimation stories to shape citizens' expectations and acceptance of state order.
- Rapid social change disrupts expectations, making steady output legitimacy (e.g., improving living standards) fragile and prompting states to emphasize controllable input legitimacy like political participation.