The Joe Rogan Experience #2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD
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Oct 8, 2024 
Calley Means, co-founder of Truemed, and Dr. Casey Means, co-founder of Levels Health, dive into pressing health issues. They discuss the dangerous links between corporate interests and public health, exposing how lobbyists distort healthcare priorities. Their insights reveal the alarming rise of chronic diseases and advocate for a holistic, nutrition-focused approach over pharmaceuticals. They also urge a reevaluation of food systems, emphasizing the need for accessible preventive care and systemic reforms to empower individuals in their health journeys.
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Calley's Lobbying Past
- Calley Means discusses his lobbying past, including influencing an NIH panel on opioids and NAACP on Coca-Cola's presence on food stamps.
- He realized industries profit from addiction and sickness, highlighting Coca-Cola as the top food stamp item.
Institutional Design and Plausible Deniability
- The institutional design of the system allows good people to have plausible deniability.
- Conversations in these rooms often revolve around doing what's right and bringing innovation to people, masking the true intentions.
Institutional Capture
- Major institutions have been captured, leading to societal problems like the healthcare crisis.
- This capture is reflected in issues like food quality, children's health, and the military-industrial complex.
