Kreatures Of Habit Podcast

Michael Chernow's Journey with Addiction, Recovery, and Redemption | Kreatures of Habit x Rich Roll

Jan 7, 2026
Rich Roll, an endurance athlete and author, engages in a transformative conversation with Michael Chernow, diving deep into his journey through addiction and recovery. Michael recounts his darkest moments, the turning points that led to his sobriety, and the establishment of successful ventures like The Meatball Shop. He emphasizes the significance of daily structure, fitness, and breathwork in healing, alongside practical advice for those feeling lost. Michael’s story is a beacon of hope, reminding us that change is always possible.
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INSIGHT

Channeling Extremism Into Strength

  • Addiction channels extreme discipline toward drugs, which can be redirected to positive pursuits once sobriety is established.
  • Michael says his ability to commit intensely became a superpower for business, fitness, and family after recovery.
ANECDOTE

Moment Of Rock Bottom And Turning Point

  • Michael Chernow describes hitting his lowest point after overdosing and telling himself to die in the mirror.
  • His boss demanded he show up sober for 30 days to keep his job, which sparked him to ask for help and start recovery.
ADVICE

Ask For Help Without Shame

  • Ask for help; it's the single most important step when you're struggling with addiction or life.
  • Don't be ashamed to reach out because most people won't, and help radically increases your chance to change.
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