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910: Mastering the Four Conversations that Transform all Your Interactions with Chuck Wisner

Oct 26, 2023

Chuck Wisner, president of Wisner Consulting, discusses the four universal types of conversation and how to maximize their effectiveness. Topics include overcoming limiting stories, improving collaboration, deconstructing narratives in business, examining unconscious standards, the value of worry in decision-making, and shifting mindsets for better conversations.

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Chuck Wisner

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Quick takeaways

By understanding our patterns and biases, we can open up space for mutual learning and collaboration.

Letting go of judgment and embracing vulnerability can lead to deeper understanding and connection with others.

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The Power of Conscious Conversations

Conscious conversations involve becoming aware of our stories and recognizing that they are not the truth. By understanding our patterns and biases, we can open up space for mutual learning and collaboration. Collaboration requires holding our positions with an open hand, being vulnerable, and seeking to understand others' perspectives. Additionally, it's important to slow down the conversation process, clarify commitments, and avoid making sloppy promises. By breaking free from our limiting stories and adopting a mindset of curiosity and openness, we can have more productive and meaningful conversations.

Introduction

3min

Chuck Wisner's Musical Journey and Long-lasting Rock and Roll Band

2min

The Power of Deconstructing Stories

14min

Examining and Changing Unconscious Standards

4min

Exploring the Value of Worry and Wise Decision-Making

2min

Shifting Mindsets for Higher Quality Conversations

16min

Exploring Contact Information and Reflecting on Storytelling

2min

Chuck Wisner reveals the four universal types of conversation—and shares advice on how to maximize the effectiveness of each.

— YOU’LL LEARN —

1) The four universal types of conversations—and why they matter.

2) How to stop your stories from limiting you.

3) The fundamental pattern for better collaboration.

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— ABOUT CHUCK —

Chuck Wisner is president of Wisner Consulting. His client list includes companies such as Google, Rivian, Apple, Tesla, Harvard Business School, Ford, and Chrysler. Wisner was a senior affiliated mediator with the Harvard Mediation Program and was among the first to be certified through the Mastering the Art of Professional Coaching program at the Newfield Institute. He was also a specialist in organizational learning and leadership as an affiliate with MIT’s Center for Organizational Learning.

• Book: The Art of Conscious Conversations: Transforming How We Talk, Listen, and Interact

• LinkedIn: Chuck Wisner

• Website: ChuckWisner.com

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