This episode features Steven Kotler, a peak performance expert known for his insights on flow states, and Greg McKeown, author of "Essentialism," who focuses on productivity. They dive into the dichotomy of control, emphasizing the importance of focusing on what we can influence for true freedom. Kotler shares tips on achieving flow for sustainable success, while McKeown advocates for effortless progress. Their discussion also draws lessons from the competition to the South Pole, highlighting the value of sustainable strategies over short-term wins.
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Dichotomy of Control
Separate things into what you can and can't control.
Focus on what you can control, accepting external factors.
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Challenge/Skills Sweet Spot
Find the challenge/skills sweet spot for flow.
Push just beyond your comfort zone (4% challenge > skill), but respect your limits.
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Race to the South Pole
Amundsen's team reached the South Pole by maintaining a steady pace (15 miles/day), even on good days.
This 'sustainable' approach conserved energy, unlike Scott's team who went all-out and perished.
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In 'Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less,' Greg McKeown argues that by applying a more selective criteria for what is essential, individuals can regain control of their time and energy. The book is divided into sections such as Explore, Eliminate, and Execute, providing practical advice on distinguishing the vital few from the trivial many and eliminating non-essential activities. McKeown emphasizes the importance of clarity of focus, the ability to say 'no,' and living 'by design, not by default.' This approach helps readers achieve more by doing less and making the highest possible contribution in their personal and professional lives.
Effortless
Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most
Greg McKeown
In 'Effortless', Greg McKeown offers practical tools and strategies for achieving more with less effort. The book is organized into three parts: the effortless state, effortless action, and effortless results. McKeown argues that not everything has to be hard and provides methods for turning tedious tasks into enjoyable rituals, preventing frustration, setting a sustainable pace, and automating essential tasks. His philosophy emphasizes the importance of finding easier ways to accomplish what matters most, rather than perpetually overexerting oneself[1][2][5].
The Art of Impossible
Steven Kotler
The obstacle is the way
Ryan Holiday
In 'The Obstacle Is the Way', Ryan Holiday presents a framework for turning obstacles into successes. Drawing from the philosophy of Stoicism and the writings of Marcus Aurelius, Holiday outlines three disciplines: perception, action, and will. He illustrates these principles with historical anecdotes from figures such as John D. Rockefeller, Amelia Earhart, Ulysses S. Grant, and Steve Jobs. The book emphasizes the importance of perception in shaping one's response to obstacles, the need for intentional and creative action, and the cultivation of will to persist through challenges. Holiday argues that by adopting these Stoic principles, individuals can transform their obstacles into opportunities for growth and success.
While we take a holiday break, enjoy this special compilation episode featuring highlights from past interviews.
Listen to wisdom from three influential authors: Ryan Holiday on Stoic principles of control, Steven Kotler on achieving flow states, and Greg McKeown on the path to effortless success.
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