

110: Scott Brinker - Brand, AI, and the Uncomfortable Future of Marketing
6 snips Jun 10, 2025
Scott Brinker, VP at HubSpot and the 'Godfather of MarTech,' shares keen insights on marketing's chaotic landscape. He discusses the struggle of managing an overload of tools and emphasizes that AI is more of a sparring partner than a decision-maker. Brinker argues for a shift from bloated platforms to specialized vertical solutions and explains why brand-building should take precedence over mere data metrics. Additionally, he predicts a transformative move towards usage-based pricing in SaaS, aligning vendor success with tangible outcomes.
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Marketing Beyond Funnel Metrics
- Marketing's role goes beyond funnel optimization to understanding brand perception and customer experience.
- Relying solely on funnel metrics limits marketing effectiveness and overlooks brand impact.
Rising Marketing Complexity
- Marketing complexity rises due to expanding customer touchpoints and operational demands.
- Marketers face challenges adapting to fragmented channels and increasing customer expectations.
Marketing's Expanded Role
- Marketers must master classic marketing plus operational discipline to manage expanding and fragmented engagement channels.
- Operational demands in marketing are unprecedented compared to a decade ago.