Why Guesting on Podcasts Won’t Grow Your Show (Unless You Do This) | Kelly Mosser
Oct 30, 2024
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Kelly Mosser, founder of Hell Yes Media and a podcast guesting expert, challenges the common belief that appearing on podcasts will automatically grow your audience. She uncovers why most guest slots yield little ROI and highlights crucial mistakes made before the interview even starts. Kelly shares strategies for crafting effective calls to action that convert listeners into followers. She also advocates for the concept of a 'podcast tour' to maximize results and make guesting efforts more impactful. Get ready for actionable insights!
Podcast guesting requires a strategic approach that focuses on offering unique value and aligning with business goals for better audience growth.
A well-defined call to action is essential for guiding listeners post-interview, ensuring they understand the next steps and increasing engagement.
Deep dives
Understanding Podcast Guesting for Maximum ROI
Podcast guesting can be an effective strategy for growing an audience, but many experience low returns on their efforts. A key reason for this lack of return is the absence of a structured strategy for guest appearances. Rather than simply focusing on getting booked on popular podcasts, it’s essential to evaluate what unique value can be offered to the audience, aligning that with the goals of your business. The most successful guest appearances start with a clear understanding of the conversation that best positions the guest's expertise and how it relates to their own podcast content.
The Importance of a Clear Call to Action
Having a well-defined call to action is crucial for guiding listeners towards the next steps after a podcast interview. Listeners benefit from knowing exactly where to go once they've enjoyed the episode, and failing to provide this direction can lead to confusion and missed opportunities. The call to action should tie directly to the overall business objective, whether that be growing a podcast audience, filling program spots, or booking consultations. By offering a specific action that aligns with the content discussed in the interview, a guest can effectively move listeners along the buying journey.
Strategies for Successful Podcast Tours
A podcast tour is an intentional approach to guesting, centered around a specific goal within a defined time frame. Unlike regular appearances, a podcast tour allows for measurable results and streamlined content delivery, making it easier to analyze performance. By clustering interviews around a single promotional event or message, guests can capitalize on momentum and feedback quickly. Additionally, establishing tiered calls to action during the tour can maximize engagement, providing listeners with both immediate and broader opportunities for connection.
You’ve probably heard that podcast guesting is a great way to grow your audience — until you try it and end up with the same size audience you had before (and zero ROI to show for it). You’re not the only one. That’s why I invited Hell Yes Media founder and podcast guesting expert Kelly Mosser to break down why your guest appearances aren’t converting into the followers or clients you were counting on — and how to fix it.
In this episode, we’re diving into why most guest interviews won’t actually yield an ROI (especially on the big shows), the biggest mistakes people make when using podcast guesting to grow and get seen, and the magic formula for framing your CTAs so every appearance you do actually translates into audience growth.
So if you're ready to stop wasting time being interviewed on podcasts that don’t convert and start turning every guest spot into more listeners and leads for your business, hit play and let’s make your business bingeworthy.
0:02 - Why Podcast Guesting Isn’t Growing Your Audience
1:45 - The Mistake That’s Costing You Leads Before the Interview Even Starts
6:15 - How to Nail Your Message So Your Guest Appearances Actually Convert
13:13 - Why Your Call to Action Isn’t Working (And How to Fix It)
17:05 - Why a Podcast Tour Delivers Better Results than Ongoing Guesting