Recart: Aaron Orendorff on low-volume, high-impact content
Oct 16, 2023
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Aaron Orendorff, content marketing specialist, discusses low-volume, high-impact content approach, measuring data points with a dollar sign, Recart's SaaS + service model, lessons from working at Shopify, and landing a byline in the New York Times.
Focusing on value over volume is crucial in marketing, considering factors like average deal size and long-term commitment.
Recart plays a vital role in the Shopify ecosystem, emphasizing the need for trust in SMS marketing and the use of account-based marketing and referrals.
Measuring closed deal value and prioritizing high-value deals are essential for understanding marketing success, shifting the focus from traditional metrics to revenue outcomes.
Deep dives
Measuring Volume of Value is Key in Marketing
The speaker highlights the importance of focusing on the volume of value rather than simply measuring volume in marketing. The main idea is that not all metrics are created equal, and it is crucial to consider factors such as average deal size and long-term commitment when evaluating success. The speaker encourages a shift towards measuring the bread and butter regular size contracts and identifying opportunities to secure big contracts every month.
Marketing within the Shopify Ecosystem
The podcast episode discusses the role of Recart, an SMS tool for Shopify vendors, and emphasizes the importance of marketing within the Shopify ecosystem. The speaker explores the challenges faced in the SMS marketing space, including the perception of higher costs and intrusiveness. The episode highlights the need to build trust in the value of SMS marketing and the role of account-based marketing and referrals in driving growth within the ecosystem.
Measurement Shift from Traffic to Revenue
The podcast explores a shift in measurement focus from traffic and leads to closed deals and revenue. The speaker emphasizes the importance of measuring closed deal value and active deal value in understanding the impact and success of marketing efforts. The episode highlights the need to prioritize high-value deals and identify opportunities for expansion within existing accounts, ultimately defining success based on revenue outcomes rather than traditional marketing metrics.
The Power of AI in Content Marketing
The speaker expresses excitement and optimism about the impact of AI in content marketing. They stress that AI is a multiplier, enhancing existing efforts and accelerating results. The speaker highlights that AI enables the creation of more valuable content that stands out from mediocre marketing. They anticipate AI playing a significant role in areas like code generation and design, enhancing efficiency and refining content distribution strategies.
The Future of Content Marketing and AI
Looking ahead, the speaker envisions a future where AI is integrated into platforms like Shopify and WordPress, providing valuable insights and recommendations. They anticipate AI streamlining and optimizing content creation processes, making it easier to produce high-quality content. The speaker believes that AI will differentiate the best content marketers by multiplying the impact of their efforts, allowing them to focus on value creation and creative strategies.
On episode #28, Jimmy speaks with Aaron Orendorff from Recart. They discuss:
- Aaron's low-volume, high-impact content approach - Why he only measures data points with a dollar sign in front of them - Recart's unique SaaS + service model - Lessons learned from four years at "the mothership" (aka Shopify) - How he landed a byline in the New York Times