The Mark Divine Show

Curtis Morely Reveals The Secret To Pushing Through Hard Times

Oct 28, 2025
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Curtis Morley
In this engaging discussion, Curtis Morley, a Wall Street Journal bestselling author and emotionologist, shares his journey from tech entrepreneur to emotional intelligence expert. He redefines success as an inner fulfillment rather than external accolades. Curtis emphasizes the importance of understanding authentic versus counterfeit emotions for personal and leadership growth. He shares insights on how failures lead to growth, the complexity of emotions like guilt and anger, and introduces his upcoming book, 'Counterfeit Emotions,' which dives deeper into these themes.
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INSIGHT

Success Is An Inside Job

  • Curtis Morley reframes success as an internal state rather than external trophies or awards.
  • He argues true success is measured by inner fulfillment, not visible accolades.
INSIGHT

Emotional Intelligence Predicts Success

  • The Center for Creative Leadership found emotional intelligence predicts future success more than skills or degrees.
  • Curtis emphasizes knowing your feelings and what to do with them as critical to leadership.
ANECDOTE

Personal Crisis Sparked Emotional Work

  • Curtis shares a painful personal period: divorce and losing a close friend, Jerry, who struggled with emotions and addiction.
  • Those events compelled him into deeper emotional humility and work on authentic feelings.
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