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In this episode, the hosts interview Jeff Goodby and Rich Silverstein, founders of the Goodby Silverstein agency. They discuss their experiences in the advertising industry, their approach to creativity, and their thoughts on the current state of the industry. The conversation touches on various topics, including the importance of relevance, the challenges of award shows, the need for innovative thinking, and the benefits of taking risks. The hosts also ask about the agency's favorite projects and what they are most proud of in recent years.