Freakonomics Radio

Policymaking Is Not a Science — Yet (Update)

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Apr 9, 2025
John List, a renowned economist at the University of Chicago, explores why great policies often fail to scale, emphasizing the need for rigorous implementation science. Dana L. Suskind, a pediatric surgeon, highlights the critical role of early childhood interventions in improving outcomes for disadvantaged children. Patti Chamberlain discusses the complexities of translating evidence-based practices into effective policies across sectors like education and child welfare. Together, they delve into the challenges and strategies necessary to bridge the gap between research and impactful policymaking.
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ANECDOTE

Cochlear Implant Adherence

  • Dana Susskind, a pediatric surgeon, highlights the effectiveness of cochlear implants.
  • However, despite the technology's success, consistent use isn't guaranteed, especially the external part.
INSIGHT

Scaling Interventions

  • Effective interventions often struggle to achieve broad impact.
  • John List emphasizes the need for understanding how to bridge the gap between research and real-world application.
ANECDOTE

Parent Academy Failure

  • John List's Parent Academy, successful in Chicago Heights, failed in London.
  • Parental uptake was low, showing the challenge of scaling programs even with proven efficacy.
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