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Jeff Warren is a former journalist and more recently is a researcher, writer, and teacher of meditation and personal growth practices. His most recent book, written with Dan Harris, is called, Meditation for Fidgitty Skeptics: A 10% Happier How to Book. Jeff is a likable, relatable guy who carries a lot of practical wisdom in his conversational style of communicating. If you've ever felt like you're not good at meditating or that meditation just isn't for you because your brain never turns off, this interview is for you because that's how Jeff would describe himself, particularly at the beginning of his practice years ago. We all know that meditation is good for us but for many, it just feels inaccessible and out of reach. If that is how you feel, what Jeff has to share in this interview will make that gap shrink in size so much so that you can hop right over it and try again.

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In This Interview, Jeff Warren and I Discuss...

• The Wolf Parable
• His book with Dan Harris, Meditation for Fidgitty Skeptics: A 10% Happier How to Book
• The role of meditation in living with depression
• The voice in our heads
• Not identifying with the voices in our heads
• Coming out of the conversation in our heads
• The idea of "I can't meditate"
• Thinking we're supposed to stop thinking when we meditate
• Changing the relationship with your thoughts
• Focusing on an anchor, getting lost in thought, realizing you're lost in thought and coming back to your anchor = mediation
• How quick we are to conclude that meditation isn't for us
• That meditation is a practice
• Celebrating the coming back from thought in meditation
• Training affability during meditation
• Finding enjoyment and curiosity during meditation
•  Asking "What's the attitude in my mind right now?" during meditation
• That attitude is what you're training during meditation
• Looking at the world with interest
• Equanimity = a lack of pushing and pulling on experience
• Opening to experience so that there's no friction
• When everything has permission to express its self fully

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