Arthur Brooks, an author and public intellectual known for his insights on happiness and Stoic philosophy, dives deep into building a fulfilling life. He discusses the transformative journey from self-obsession to genuine self-reflection and emphasizes the importance of serving others to find purpose. The conversation also explores the challenges of transitioning from busyness to fulfillment, drawing parallels between personal growth and the hero's journey. Lastly, they highlight the power of diverse philosophical perspectives in navigating life's adversities and enhancing personal happiness.