

#195 - What Do Health and Sustainability Really Mean to Consumers? | Dana Kim & Sam Kass
May 6, 2025
In this engaging conversation, Sam Kass, former White House Chef and food policy advisor, shares his insights on reshaping food systems and the impact of the Obamas' health initiatives. Dana Kim, founder of Highlight, discusses real consumer behaviors regarding health and sustainability, revealing the gap between what shoppers say they care about and their actual purchases. Together, they explore the necessity of clear communication, tailored messaging, and genuine consumer insights to develop better-for-you products and avoid greenwashing in the evolving CPG landscape.
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Sam Kass White House Anecdote
- Sam Kass shared his multifaceted and intense experience as White House chef and senior policy advisor under Obama.
- He enjoyed cooking for the First Family and influencing national food policy during that unique tenure.
Challenges in Dietary Change
- Food is deeply personal, linked to identity, love, and habit, making dietary change challenging.
- Government influence is limited outside institutional settings like schools, complicating nutrition policy impact.
Key Health and Climate Actions
- Reducing dietary sugar and portion sizes would vastly improve public health.
- Shifting to regenerative agriculture and lowering animal protein consumption is critical to environmental sustainability.