
Reclamation Radio with Kelly Brogan MD 141: Why Conventional Trauma Work Fails - And What Works Instead | Irene Lyon
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Jan 6, 2026 In this insightful conversation with Irene Lyon, a trauma educator trained in somatic modalities, the discussion dives into why many conventional trauma practices may actually hinder healing. Irene critiques popular methods like meditation and breathwork, cautioning against their potential to destabilize sensitive nervous systems. She emphasizes the importance of interoception and tailored, gentle approaches to trauma work, challenging listeners to reconsider quick fixes in favor of deeper, more nuanced healing strategies. This episode is a must-listen for anyone feeling stuck in their healing journey.
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Healing Skin Through Nervous System Work
- Irene healed chronic skin inflammation through layered approaches including somatic work and environmental cleanup.
- She credits gradual nervous system training after nearly becoming suicidal during intense SE training.
Only Engage If Person Is Ready
- Don't push people into deep nervous system work unless they actively want it and have support.
- Require readiness because unearthing trauma can temporarily disable functioning.
Trauma Lives In Procedural Memory
- Procedural motor memories can store incomplete threat responses that show up as chronic pain or tension.
- Unfinished defensive movements create persistent muscular holding patterns and symptoms.





