Jocko Podcast 161: Machiavellian Leadership: Myth VS Reality, with “The Prince”
Jan 23, 2019
Dive into the intriguing world of Machiavellian leadership, where Shakespeare's Richard III shapes our understanding of cunning. Discover Machiavelli's practical advice on governance, from treating people well to the risks of relying on internal dissenters. Learn the importance of consistency in leadership, why fear can be preferable to love, and how to balance being a fox and a lion. The conversation also explores the necessity of preparing for misfortune, training for war, and the value of capable servants in maintaining power.
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The Prince As Practical Leadership Manual
- Machiavelli wrote The Prince as practical leadership instructions drawn from experience and history.
- Jocko highlights it as a forerunner to modern leadership books that mix principle with real examples.
Reside Where You Rule
- When you add a dominion with different language or customs, go live there and stay to prevent rebellions.
- Presence builds understanding and lets you detect uprisings before they blindside you.
Make Injuries Decisive Or Be Benevolent
- Either treat people well or crush them completely so they cannot seek revenge.
- If you must injure, make it decisive to avoid ongoing fear of reprisal.
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Intro
00:00 • 1min
Why Richard III Defines 'Machiavellian'
01:09 • 9min
What The Prince Is and Why It Matters
09:45 • 3min
Holding New Territories: Goodwill vs. Force
12:56 • 2min
Treat People Well or Crush Them: A Hard Choice
15:15 • 3min
Forecast Problems Early and Fix Them
17:59 • 3min
Using Local Malcontents to Seize Power Risks Holding It
21:29 • 3min
Three Ways to Govern Newly-Acquired States
24:02 • 4min
Foundation First: Lay the Groundwork Carefully
28:21 • 23min
When Wicked Means Gain Power, Does It Bring Glory?
51:00 • 4min
Rip the Band-Aid: Do Necessary Harm All at Once
55:06 • 2min
Consistency: Avoid Forced Mercy or Sudden Harshness
57:20 • 1min
Civil Principality: Winning Nobles vs. People
58:35 • 5min
Make Citizens Need the State: Secure Loyalty
01:03:58 • 3min
Why Mercenaries and Auxiliaries Are Dangerous
01:06:34 • 3min
A Prince's Primary Study Should Be War
01:09:31 • 14min
Train by Action and Study: Know Local Terrain
01:23:52 • 7min
Prepare Resources in Peace to Withstand Fortune
01:30:47 • 2min
Is It Better to Be Feared or Loved?
01:33:05 • 6min
Be Both Fox and Lion: Craft and Force Balanced
01:39:08 • 11min
Appear Virtuous Even If Actions Differ
01:50:12 • 6min
Choose Capable Servants and Avoid Flatterers
01:56:17 • 4min
Take Counsel Only When You Ask and Be Decisive
02:00:42 • 3min
Fortune's Role: How Much Is Luck vs. Skill?
02:03:27 • 3min
Staying Steady Through Success and Ruin
02:06:27 • 43sec
Practical Steps to Bolster Defenses and Lead Well
02:07:10 • 9min
Training, Jiu-Jitsu, and Building Capability
02:15:58 • 22sec
Ad break
02:16:21 • 5min
Supplements, Recovery, and Practical Wellness Tips
02:20:56 • 7min
Products and Programs: On The Path and Echelon Front
02:28:19 • 12min
Overwatch, Muster Events, and How to Get Help
02:39:58 • 1min
Outro
02:41:06 • 2min

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0:00:00 – Opening: Richard III
0:09:04 – The Prince, by Niccolo Machiavelli
2:07:05 – Final thoughts and take-aways.
2:14:24 – Support: How to stay on THE PATH.
2:40:46 – Closing Gratitude.
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