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The Truth About Codependency: Why It’s Not Empathy, It’s Survival w/ Dr. Sarah Michaud

Jun 18, 2025
Dr. Sarah Michaud, psychologist and author of "Co-Crazy," shares her journey of overcoming codependency and addiction. She discusses how codependency is often misunderstood as selflessness, revealing it to be a survival mechanism rooted in trauma. The conversation highlights the myth of high-functioning individuals who seem fine while avoiding deeper pain. Sarah emphasizes the grief of healing, letting go of unfulfilling relationships, and the need for personal accountability in recovery. She also explores the transformative power of body awareness in healing trauma.
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Codependency Is Trauma Survival

  • Codependency is a survival response driven by unresolved trauma, not selflessness or just empathy.
  • It causes people to lose themselves trying to manage fear and abandonment inside and outside themselves.
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Sarah's Chaotic Family Background

  • Sarah grew up in a chaotic family with an alcoholic mother and a distant father with PTSD.
  • She experienced chronic tension and normalized dysfunction, not knowing what a healthy family felt like.
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Sarah's Early Addiction Journey

  • Sarah's first addiction was to food and sugar before moving quickly into alcohol and drugs in high school.
  • She had a quick downward spiral, ending up hospitalized due to cocaine-induced psychosis by age 24.
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