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Love’s Everyday Radius
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Feb 4, 2021 • 40min
S2E16: Karen Tiber Leland – A ‘Hardwired’ Spiritual Self
Listen in as Karen Tiber Leland shares with us about the power of being tapped into your Spiritual Self. Karen went through a very rough time after doing the Hoffman Process. Through this time, she realized that her connection to her Spiritual Self was “hardwired in.” She realizes how this being so helped her to navigate such a hard time in her life.
Karen also speaks about the power of being able to name your emotions in business. She tells us, “The Process isn’t about indulging your feelings and dramatizing them. It’s about the recognition and clear expression of them. And the responsible expression of them.”
More about Karen Tiber Leland
Karen is the best-selling author of The Brand Mapping Strategy: Design, Build and Accelerate Your Brand. Karen is also president of Sterling Marketing Group, a boutique branding & marketing firm working on personal, business, and CEO branding. Her clients include LinkedIn, Google, American Express, and Marriott, among others.
A best-selling author of ten traditionally published books, Karen’s books have sold more than 450,000 copies. Karen writes for Inc.com. and has spoken at Harvard, Stanford, and TedX. She’s also a frequent guest of the media and has been interviewed by CNN, CNBC, Fox, and Oprah.
Karen currently serves on the Hoffman Institute Advisory Council. She’s a former board member and has facilitated board and staff retreats. Karen has also led leadership development programs and advised on Hoffman branding and marketing. Find out more about Karen, here.

Jan 28, 2021 • 32min
S2E15: Ross Copperman – Finding Your Voice
photo by John Shearer
Ross Copperman is a singer/songwriter and music producer. In today’s episode, listen in as Ross shares his experiences at the Hoffman Process and what it has been like to integrate the work he did at the Process over time. The main themes from today’s episode are authenticity, balance, fame, voice, artistry, and learning to trust and love your own way of living in your love’s everyday radius.
Ross was born in Roanoke, Virginia with a passion to create songs. After graduating college, Ross signed a record deal with Sony Records in the UK. Despite success as an artist, Ross moved to Nashville. He wanted to focus on songwriting and production, recognizing this to be his specialty.
MORE ABOUT ROSS COPPERMAN
Ross has written and produced upwards of 33 #1 singles, revolutionizing the sound of Nashville’s current country music. He’s produced a wide range of country artists, including Keith Urban, Dierks Bentley, Eli Young Band, Jake Owen, and Brett Eldredge. #1 songs from these productions include, “I Hold On”, “Drunk On A Plane”, and “Say You Do.”
Blake Shelton’s “I Lived It” and Keith Urban’s “Female” demonstrate Ross’ talent for crafting sentimental ballads. In 2020, he topped the charts with hits “What She Wants Tonight” by Luke Bryan, “Catch” by Brett Young, and “I Hope” by debut artist Gabby Barrett.
Ross has received multiple CMA Awards and ACM nominations. Ross received CMA Triple Play Awards for co-writing six #1 songs in a 12-month period. This earned Ross the title of ACM Songwriter of the Year in 2016. You can learn more about Ross and his career, hit songs, and awards won, here.

Jan 21, 2021 • 38min
S2E14: Tim Callan – A Journey Through Grief to New Love
Listen in as Tim Callan shares his amazing journey through deep grief after the death of his wife, to find new love on the other side. Tim speaks of his experience of the power of grief willingly and fully met. He also tells us of the power of the Hoffman Process to open our hearts to the life that our Spiritual Self wants us to live.
Tim shares that if he hadn’t been willing to walk through it all, his life would have been “an incomplete life.” Listen closely as he tells how he invited grief to take him where he needed to go and what happened when he did.
More about Tim Callan:
After completing the Process, Tim Callan came to work for the Hoffman Institute. He took on several administrative functions and became a Process teacher. Tim served as VP/Chief Administrative Officer of the Hoffman Institute until he retired in 2010.
Prior to Hoffman, Tim served in the United States Army. He was a member of the California National Guard for 34 years. During his career, he had executive responsibility for the NATO Partnership for Peace/State Partnership Program with Ukraine and served as Military Aid to the Governor of California.
A co-founder of a community-based transformational workshop/retreat nonprofit corporation, Tim served as a trainer, teacher, and ropes course facilitator. Tim was also co-founder and President/CEO of the New Mexico Chapter of Illuman. An international nonprofit organization, Illuman is dedicated to fostering male spirituality and healthy masculinity.
Tim and his wife, Laurel, who was also a Hoffman teacher, now live in the high desert of Northern New Mexico.
As Mentioned in this Episode:
In this conversation with Drew, Tim reads the following poem by David Whyte.
The Well of Grief
Those who will not slip beneath
the still surface of the well of grief
turning downward through its black water
to the place we cannot breathe
will never know the source from which we drink,
the secret water,
cold and clear,
nor find in the darkness
glimmering the small round coins thrown away
by those who wished for something else.

Jan 14, 2021 • 39min
S2E13: Lorenzo Jones – Playing a Bigger Game
Listen in as Lorenzo Jones, business coach, facilitator, and speaker shares his Process experience with Sharon. Through the dialogue he had with his Mother during the Process, Lorenzo experienced deep healing. She’s a very private person, he says, so through dialogue, he was able to answer questions he’d always held. Lorenzo also speaks to the power of forgiveness. He says that “forgiveness is like an arrow that goes both ways.” To forgive requires one to also release oneself.
It was just this past year, though, that Lorenzo saw he was still playing a small game. In the midst of the racial upheaval in the Summer of 2020, he felt called to step forward. He knew he had to step up into a bigger game. Life responded with new opportunities to bring healing to others and his community by using his facilitation skills.
More about Lorenzo Jones
Compassionate, intuitive, and open-minded, Lorenzo has more than 20 years of experience in his field. He builds a high degree of connection and trust with his clients by creating a positive learning environment. Lorenzo’s clients include Marin County Government, Los Angeles Metropolitan Authority, The Boy’s and Girls Club, Nike, Levi Strauss, Wells Fargo, Hilton Hotels, and more. You can learn more about Lorenzo here.

Jan 7, 2021 • 33min
S2e12: Ben Smith-Petersen – A Moment of Magical Realization
Stuntman, Ben Smith-Petersen, was originally a circus performer and flying trapeze teacher. Ben got his start in the stunt world after meeting a stunt coordinator who brought his children in to learn flying trapeze.
In this episode, Ben shares vulnerably and beautifully about his time at the Process. Specifically, he talks about the moment when he was holding his ‘baby me.’ It was a moment of magical realization for Ben. He says in this realization within himself, that he is the one cared for and also the carer. “It’s like this real feeling of ‘You’ve got this. You have it all here to handle anything.'”
Ben also shares about the healing he has experienced in relationships in general. He shares with us a bit about the stunt world and what it is like to be a stuntman. There is a real camaraderie in the stunt world and Ben shares how his Process work has already helped him draw closer to these colleagues.
More about Ben Smith-Petersen
Ben is originally from Australia and has been in the U.S. for the last seven years. He moved to the states after meeting his wife, Riley, on a film in South Africa. Follow Ben on Instagram.

Dec 31, 2020 • 59min
S2E11: Sharon Mor & Drew Horning – An Intimate, Soulful Conversation
For New Year’s Eve, 2020, we have an intimate conversation with our podcast co-hosts, Sharon Mor and Drew Horning. Listen in as they explore and share many aspects of their Hoffman experiences – as students, teachers-in-training, active teachers, and now as Hoffman Podcast co-hosts.
TRANSFORMATION & LOVE
What you’ll come to know from listening to this soulful conversation is how much Sharon and Drew love each other. They are friends, yes, but more than that there is a palpable sense of family between these two. This love is the kind of love we experience at the Process with our fellow Process mates. When we do this deep work together we come to love each other in a profound way. Sharon and Drew were also in Hoffman Process teacher training together, which, as they reflect on it here, grew them even closer. Sharon beautifully expresses her joy in realizing that, as teachers of the Process, they will grow old together.
Drew speaks about how dangerous the Dark Side’s use of ‘weaponized awareness’ is and how the power of self-compassion is vitally essential to counteract this Dark Side tactic. Sharon talks about how, through the transformation she experienced at the Process, she is now the person she always wanted to be.
SHARON AND DREW ALSO TALK ABOUT:
The most powerful, pivotal moments in each of their Processes.
Stories from their childhood years.
How the transformation they experienced at the Process now looks in the day-to-day of their lives.
What they would share with students as graduates on day six of the Process.
A bit of what they’ve learned teaching the Process.
Their insights and understandings about the power of the Process from the perspectives of both student and teacher.
And…a little bit about podcasting!
Toward the end, Sharon and Drew consider what it was like to share this time with each other and with you. They discover that intimate, soulful conversations help us learn more about each other in new and amazing ways.

Dec 24, 2020 • 24min
S2E10: Marni Battista – Living Courageously
Marni Battista is a dating and relationship coach and the author of Becoming Irresistible. How did she get into this line of work? Marni shares that her patterns, the way she was raised, and the way she experienced love, came together to create, what she calls, “a bad picker” when it comes to finding love. She came to the Hoffman Process because she did not want to pass these patterns on to her three daughters.
Years later, Marni founded Dating With Dignity and the Institute for Living Courageously. Marni discovered that while people initially want to find dignity in dating, what it is really about is finding self-love. This requires, living courageously.
More about Marni Battista
Marni Battista is a certified professional Dating and Relationship Coach and Expert, writer, and nationally recognized print and online magazine expert. In her words, she’s “the queen of making her clients irresistible to men in today’s dating environment.” You can find out more about Marni, here.
https://media.blubrry.com/the_hoffman_podcast/content.blubrry.com/the_hoffman_podcast/Sharon_and_Marni_Battista_Podcast.mp3

Dec 17, 2020 • 34min
S2E9: Joey Gauld – Your Unique Potential Defines Your Destiny
Joey Gauld enrolled in the Hoffman Process in 2007 at the age of 80. During his Process, he reclaimed his childhood nickname. Once home, he returned to work as headmaster of Hyde School in Bath, Maine and asked his colleagues to call him Joey. In this episode, Joey shares wisdom gained from his long, full life. His laugh is infectious, his view on educating children inspiring, and his philosophy on how to move forward even when you aren’t sure whether or not what you want to do will work enlightening.
Hyde School’s founding principle was, and continues to be, “Every individual has a unique potential that defines their destiny.” This clearly aligns with the Process. In fact, many of Hyde’s educators, parents, and students have done the Process. An educator since 1951, Joey founded the Hyde Family Learning Center in Bath, Maine in 1966, and has been the headmaster then since that day. Joey founded Hyde Leadership Charter Schools in New Haven, CT, in 1994, Washington DC in 1999, and the Bronx, NY in 2006. He served his country in World War II as Quartermaster and Seaman 1st Class in the U. S. Navy.
More About Joey Gauld
Joey has written numerous books around kids, parenting, and in particular, character, including, What Kids Want –and Need—from Parents: How to Bond With and Mentor Children, published in 2012. He appeared on The Donahue Show, 1975; NBC The Today Show, 1975, 1979, 1986; CBS 60 Minutes, 1989; ABC 20/20, 1998.
Joey has a BA in Economics from Bowdoin College and an MA in Mathematics from Boston University. Joey is widowed with three children, nine grandchildren, and one great-grandchild.
https://media.blubrry.com/the_hoffman_podcast/content.blubrry.com/the_hoffman_podcast/Drew_and_Joey_Gauld_Podcast_Final.mp3

Dec 10, 2020 • 28min
S2E8: Cara Jones – Finding My Own Inner Messiah
In today’s episode, Cara Jones shares her powerful life story. Cara is a filmmaker, former Emmy Award-winning journalist, and a story coach. She grew up in the Unification Church, often called the ‘Moonies’, and adopted this spiritual belief system.
Cara’s real journey began when she left this religious movement. As she did, everything she’d been taught and had come to believe in about the world fell out from under her. In completing the Hoffman Process, Cara found great healing. She came to see that, “You can’t be haunted by a ghost you know.” Listen in as Cara shares about finding her inner messiah, healing her relationship with her family, and the freedom that comes when you own your story.
Cara Jones’ work in the World:
After completing the Process, Cara was finally able to tell her story to the world in her feature-length film, Blessed Child. Cara’s film production company, Storytellers for Good, produced this personal journey documentary.
The seven-year journey of making the film inspires her current coaching work helping entrepreneurs untether their voices and get visible with their stories and bold messages. She works with people to guide them to own their stories. She invites you to “own your story so your story doesn’t own you.”
Cara is also a MOTH story slam winner. Her writing has been featured in the Washington Post, HuffPo, and the Boston Globe.
You can find out more about Cara here or follow her on Instagram.

Dec 3, 2020 • 31min
S2e7: Jen Atkin – Blowing My Way to the Top
Jen Atkin is a hairstylist, influencer, and entrepreneur. Just over a year ago, she had a powerful Process that changed her life. Jen grew up in a religious family in a small town in Utah. Listen in as she shares about moving to Los Angeles and her rise to the top of her field. With candor and vulnerability, Jen tells us what she’s discovered working in the world of fashion and celebrity.
Jen is building a beauty empire with her award-winning hair care line, OUAI, and editorial destination Mane Addicts. Named “the most influential hairstylist in the world” by The New York Times, Jen has more than five million social media followers.
Jen has worked for over fifteen years in salons and backstage at Paris and New York Fashion Weeks. She’s also worked on set with some of the world’s biggest celebrities. These include the Kardashian-Jenners, the Hadids, Gwen Stefani, Chrissy Teigen, Katy Perry, and Jennifer Lopez.
Jen’s new book, Blowing My Way to the Top: How to Break the Rules, Find Your Purpose, and Create the Life and Career You Deserve, was released on December 8th, 2020.
When she’s not juggling clients and her thriving companies, Jen tries to maintain a personal life at home with her husband and dogs. She enjoys hiking, meditating, and using funny memes to inspire her followers not to lose their sh*t.
Photo of Jen by Mike Rosenthal.