
The Simmer
The Simmer explores and explains hot topics in restaurant technology and the future of hospitality. It's led by two industry veterans with a lot of opinions. Kristen Hawley has spent over a decade covering the beat for her newsletter Expedite and top titles including Fast Company, Business Insider, Bon Appetit, Eater, and Food & Wine. Brandon Barton is CEO of Bite, an industry-leading intelligent kiosk ordering software provider with nearly two decades of experience in restaurant tech. Each episode, the hosts interview some of the smartest people in hospitality to dissect what's happening now
Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2025 • 49min
Kelly Esten, CMO, Toast
We’re deep in an (unintentional) point of sale system theme at The Simmer. This week, Toast’s chief marketer Kelly Esten joins us to talk enterprise restaurants, artificial intelligence, and maybe accidentally perpetuate a rumor that Brandon really wants to be true.

May 27, 2025 • 43min
Lindsey Irvine, CMO, Square
Brandon got stuck on a plane, so Kristen flies solo in this interview with Square’s top marketer, Lindsey Irivine. In this episode, we talk about big marketing initiatives and activations, and how Square sees itself as both a restaurant and consumer brand. Plus, Lindsey shares details of Square’s new San Francisco corner store, a consumer and small business play all in one.

May 21, 2025 • 42min
Krystle Mobayeni, Head of Restaurants, Fiserv
Fiserv recently unveiled a new point of sale system designed to serve “upper market restaurants,” or restaurants that do more than $1 million in processing volume annually, according to Fiserv head of restaurants, Krystle Mobayeni. Krystle, also the co-founder and CEO of BentoBox, a restaurant technology company acquired by Fiserv in 2021, joins The Simmer to talk reservations, point of sale systems, and what Fiserv’s brand new POS, dubbed Clover Hospitality, offers restaurants.

May 7, 2025 • 36min
DoorDash buys SevenRooms for $1.2 billion
In a whirlwind discussion, hosts dive into DoorDash's staggering $1.2 billion acquisition of SevenRooms. They explore what this monumental deal means for the restaurant technology landscape and customer relationships. The implications of global expansion and the fierce competition with other food delivery giants are highlighted. Financial dramas within the sector stir excitement, while concerns over data ownership and partnerships are raised. As they analyze the future of dining experiences, the rapid evolution of the restaurant industry becomes crystal clear.

Apr 22, 2025 • 45min
Niko Papademetriou SVP, Qu POS
Is the POS dying? What even is a modern point of sale? Can it shed its old image and become what it always wanted to be: the true hub of modern restaurant operations? Niko Papademetriou runs sales and business development at Qu, a point of sale system that’s thinking through what the true future for restaurants looks like. In this episode, we talk POS (a lot); restaurant work, and the tools operators can access now that were just a dream a decade ago.

Apr 8, 2025 • 49min
Tammy Billings, Business Development, SignalFlare.ai
Tammy Billings has worked in marketing and biz dev for decades and has plenty of experience with restaurant technology. In this far-ranging conversation, we talk about the past, present, and future of the industry. Plus: Want to get Kristen fired up? Talk about ethics in podcasting.

Mar 25, 2025 • 41min
Suzie Tsai, CEO, Bonchon
Suzie Tsai spent over a decade at restaurant powerhouse Brinker International, leading programs that included Chili’s white-hot beverage business, before landing the top role at Bonchon. In this episode, Suzie explains how a concept that launched (and then failed) in South Korea has found its footing in the US, growing over two decades. But this growth isn’t without challenges; Bonchon’s restaurants range from seated full service to kiosk-friendly fast casual, leading to tough choices about how to implement new technology.

Mar 11, 2025 • 47min
Tom Cortese, Chief Operating Officer, Kernel Foods
Kernel made a splash when it opened its first New York City restaurant in early 2024. The then-vegan restaurant’s star employee was a robotic arm tasked with moving food in and out of the oven, assisting human workers by handling much of the heavy lifting. But the robot, along with Kernel’s name and one-time signature green paint in stores, have been retired. Instead, Kernel Foods is working on a new sandwich concept: Counter Service. Chief operating officer Tom Cortese, also a co-founder of hit fitness platform Peloton, still has an eye on how tech will take this burgeoning restaurant brand to new heights.

Feb 25, 2025 • 46min
Michael Osanloo President & CEO, Portillo’s
This episode starts with a lawsuit and an upset: Uber sues DoorDash in San Francisco, and New York Magazine declares all the cool restaurants are on OpenTable now. The drama! (Kind of.) Then, Michael Osanloo, president and CEO of Portillo’s — now a fast-growing, publicly traded restaurant company — joins the Simmer to talk marketing, loyalty, third-party delivery, and Chicago street food.

Feb 11, 2025 • 39min
Abhinav Kapur Co-founder and CEO, Bikky
We’re back on the restaurant loyalty beat this week with Abhinav Kapur, who’s led Bikky for nearly a decade. In this episode, we talk about developing loyal diners, email (and text!) marketing, and “tendies” from a new KFC spinoff, whatever those are.