

The Simmer
The Simmer
The Simmer explores and explains hot topics in restaurant technology and the future of hospitality. It's led by two industry veterans with a lot of opinions. Kristen Hawley has spent over a decade covering the beat for her newsletter Expedite and top titles including Fast Company, Business Insider, Bon Appetit, Eater, and Food & Wine. Brandon Barton is CEO of Bite, an industry-leading intelligent kiosk ordering software provider with nearly two decades of experience in restaurant tech. Each episode, the hosts interview some of the smartest people in hospitality to dissect what's happening now
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Jul 22, 2025 • 44min
Cindy Klein Roche, Chief Growth Officer, ezCater
Restaurant catering — and the tech that powers it — is hot, hot, hot. At nearly 20 years old, ezCater is poised to take advantage of the renewed interest from office workers and the restaurants that serve them. In this episode we talk about the evolution of catering, the tech that supports it, and why a little reassurance and hand-holding goes a long way with corporate clients.

Jul 18, 2025 • 43min
Rob Edell, GM & Head of DashPass, DoorDash
Before Rob Edell was DoorDash’s head of DashPass, he was a restaurant tech founder building a business he eventually sold to Resy. Rob joined DoorDash years before it became the market leader it is today, and after almost a decade of the company, he’s had a front row seat to the evolving restaurant business. In this episode, we talk about DoorDash’s growth and evolution, how DashPass encourages loyalty, and what’s coming next.

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Jul 1, 2025 • 43min
Ilir Sela, Founder & CEO, Slice
Ilir Sela, the Founder and CEO of Slice and a champion of independent pizzerias, delves into the challenges and innovations of the restaurant ecosystem. He discusses the evolution of Slice from an online ordering platform to a comprehensive tech solution for pizzerias, offering tools like point of sale and loyalty programs. Sela also shares insights on the dynamics of first-party versus third-party delivery, the importance of community in local business, and what truly defines a great pizza.

Jun 17, 2025 • 37min
Fred LeFranc, CEO, Results Thru Strategy
In this pre-recorded summer special, Kristen and Brandon ask Fred to predict the future. Lucky for us, he’s good at it. In this episode, we talk about the current state of casual dining (tl;dr: Chili’s is killing it), all those restaurant bankruptcies, and the importance of making an emotional connection with diners.

Jun 3, 2025 • 49min
Kelly Esten, CMO, Toast
We’re deep in an (unintentional) point of sale system theme at The Simmer. This week, Toast’s chief marketer Kelly Esten joins us to talk enterprise restaurants, artificial intelligence, and maybe accidentally perpetuate a rumor that Brandon really wants to be true.

May 27, 2025 • 43min
Lindsey Irvine, CMO, Square
Brandon got stuck on a plane, so Kristen flies solo in this interview with Square’s top marketer, Lindsey Irivine. In this episode, we talk about big marketing initiatives and activations, and how Square sees itself as both a restaurant and consumer brand. Plus, Lindsey shares details of Square’s new San Francisco corner store, a consumer and small business play all in one.

May 21, 2025 • 42min
Krystle Mobayeni, Head of Restaurants, Fiserv
Fiserv recently unveiled a new point of sale system designed to serve “upper market restaurants,” or restaurants that do more than $1 million in processing volume annually, according to Fiserv head of restaurants, Krystle Mobayeni. Krystle, also the co-founder and CEO of BentoBox, a restaurant technology company acquired by Fiserv in 2021, joins The Simmer to talk reservations, point of sale systems, and what Fiserv’s brand new POS, dubbed Clover Hospitality, offers restaurants.

May 7, 2025 • 36min
DoorDash buys SevenRooms for $1.2 billion
In a whirlwind discussion, hosts dive into DoorDash's staggering $1.2 billion acquisition of SevenRooms. They explore what this monumental deal means for the restaurant technology landscape and customer relationships. The implications of global expansion and the fierce competition with other food delivery giants are highlighted. Financial dramas within the sector stir excitement, while concerns over data ownership and partnerships are raised. As they analyze the future of dining experiences, the rapid evolution of the restaurant industry becomes crystal clear.

Apr 22, 2025 • 45min
Niko Papademetriou SVP, Qu POS
Is the POS dying? What even is a modern point of sale? Can it shed its old image and become what it always wanted to be: the true hub of modern restaurant operations? Niko Papademetriou runs sales and business development at Qu, a point of sale system that’s thinking through what the true future for restaurants looks like. In this episode, we talk POS (a lot); restaurant work, and the tools operators can access now that were just a dream a decade ago.

Apr 8, 2025 • 49min
Tammy Billings, Business Development, SignalFlare.ai
Tammy Billings has worked in marketing and biz dev for decades and has plenty of experience with restaurant technology. In this far-ranging conversation, we talk about the past, present, and future of the industry. Plus: Want to get Kristen fired up? Talk about ethics in podcasting.