

Inside with Brett Hawke
Brett Hawke
Take an intimate look inside the minds of swimming's highest achievers with one of the world's best swim coaches, Brett Hawke.
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May 10, 2021 • 49min
#159 Barry Prime
Barry Prime has been a swim coach for over 40 years. Currently, he is the Coach and Club Development Officer for Swimming Queensland.
Originally from Great Britain, Barry swam in the 1972 Munich Olympics. He is in the British Swimming Coaches Association's Hall of Fame.
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
01:15 Hello Barry Prime
02:05 Coach & Club Development
02:40 Observe & Listen
03:20 Self Belief
03:55 Swimming Technique
04:16 Why is QLD so good?
05:18 Schools have Pools
09:05 Accountability
13:00 The other States
14:30 Barry's Story
15:55 Neville Cross
17:55 Nick Gillingham
19:49 Swimming to Win by Don Talbot
22:13 Don Talbot Story Time
24:05 Gennadi Touretski
27:35 AIS
36:15 Australian Swimming Now
41:25 Return to Elite Coaching?
42:15 What makes a great coach?
46:00 Australian Culture
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May 6, 2021 • 1h 4min
#158 Carol Capitani
Carol Capitano is finishing her 9th season as the Head Coach of the Women's Swimming & Diving Team at the University of Texas. The Longhorns recently captured 3rd place at NCAA's as a team, their first Top 3 finish since 2001.
Prior to Texas, Carol spent 14 years at the University of Georgia where they won 4x NCAA team titles (1999, 2000, 2001 and 2005) and 7x NCAA runner-up finishes with the Lady Bulldogs.
Carol, herself, was an All-American 200 IM'er at the University of California under Karen Moe Humphries. She doesn't currently have a Wikipedia page. Please someone make her a Wikipedia page.
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live
01:15 Welcome
01:30 Rumor Going Around
02:00 Single Sex Team
03:15 Coaching Men vs. Women
05:00 Consider a Man vs. a Woman
08:25 Pressure to Win?
09:30 What's the secret?
18:40 Hiring an Assistant Coach
22:40 Mitch Dalton
25:00 2021 NCAA Season
26:55 Carol's Coaching Style
30:45 Kids Make the Sets Look Good
31:50 Swimming Physiology
34:05 Carol at California
34:20 Karen Moe
35:45 Why a swim coach?
38:05 Collecting a T Shirt
44:25 Goals
46:20 Balancing a Family
54:30 Social Media
56:40 Why Texas?
58:50 Recruiting
1:00:50 Cool New Outdoor Pool
01:03:05 Thanks
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May 3, 2021 • 39min
#157 Andrew Lauterstein
Andrew Lauterstein won the Bronze medal in the 100 Fly at the 2008 Beijing Olympics touching out Ian Crocker by just .01 of a second. He was a 21 year old Aussie with no expectations.
"You know that race that Michael Phelps didn't look like he won but he won? Well I got 3rd in that one." - Andrew Lauterstein
Lauterstein was a superb high school backstroker. At Australian Olympic Trials in 2004 he placed 3rd in the 100 Back. A year later he made the Australian World Champs Team. He was coached by Glenn Baker from age 11 to 21.
Today Andy is a very busy man. He runs Engine Swim with another Australian Olympic Bronze medalist in Toby Haenen, has a swim school, and just took over Mentone Aquatic.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Pace Clocks
01:15 Where you coming from?
01:40 Engine Swim with Toby Haenen
02:30 Competing Again
05:30 2005 World Champs Team/2006 Commonwealth Games
06:15 3rd at Olympic Trials 2004
07:59 The Greatest Race in History
10:27 Michael Phelps Semi Finals 100 Fly
12:07 Mental State in Ready Room
12:35 Glenn Baker & Grant Stoelwinder
12:58 Backend Speed 50's
14:30 No Expectations
17:10 The Finish
19:00 An Incredible Moment in Time
19:45 Michael Phelps Peacock Documentary
20:20 2009 Rome, 2010 Delhi
21:00 Overtraining
21:25 Geoff Huegill
22:45 Funding Cut
25:23 Bus to Beijing
26:30 Trust Your Swim Coach
28:10 Retirement
29:30 Crossfit World Games
30:15 Mindfulness
31:15 Glenn Baker
34:18 Cody Simpson
35:45 50 Free at 2021 OT's
37:15 Olympics Happening 100%
38:45 Get Engine Swim Worldwide
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Apr 29, 2021 • 41min
#156 Tucker Dupree
Tucker Dupree is a 3x Paralympian (2008, 2012, 2016) and 4-time Paralympic medalist (1 Silver & 3 Bronze) in 3 different events (50 Free, 100 Free, and 100 Back).
When Tucker was a senior in high school, he was diagnosed with Leber Hereditary Optic Neuropathy (LHON), a rare disease that, in the span of just a few months, took 80% of his vision away.
Prior to his diagnosis, he didn't really know what the Paralympics was all about or how it worked.
Tucker is a World Champion, a highly regarded clinician with Fitter & Faster, and BP's new Community Management Advisor.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
01:15 Swimming Stories: You have an amazing story
01:40 Fitter & Faster
02:10 Where did it start for you?
03:00 Going 80% Blind
05:45 Were you freaking out?
07:35 How rare is LHON?
10:35 What can you see?
13:00 Evolving into a Paralympian
13:55 Elexis "Lex" Gillette
16:15 Hard to find swim meets?
18:00 Beijing 2008
22:10 Competitors, Rivalries
23:45 Blind Jokes
24:25 London 2012
30:10 Rio 2016
31:45 Being a Mentor
33:50 Inspiring Teammates
36:45 Complainers?
38:05 Working for BP
39:05 Blind Swimmer Leading a Clinic
40:50 What's your best time in the 50 Free?
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Beijing 2008 Paralympic Games
4th (400 Free), 5th (100 Back & 100 Fly), 6th (50 Free & 200 IM), 7th (100 Free)
London 2012 Paralympic Games
Silver (100 Back), Bronze (50 Free & 100 Free), 4th (100 Fly), 5th (400 Free)
Rio 2016 Paralympic Games
Bronze (100 Back), 5th (50 Free), 8th (100 Fly)
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Apr 27, 2021 • 1h 13min
#155 Bill Sweetenham
Bill Sweetenham, 5x Olympic Head Coach of 3 different countries, was inducted into the International Swimming Hall of Fame in 2018. He has led Australia, Hong Kong, Great Britain, and Argentina's national swimming programs. Great Britain went from just 3 Finals swims to Top 3 in medal count at the Olympics.
In his early days he coached the likes of Tracey Wickham, Stephen Holland, and Michelle Ford. He has had a swimmer reach the podium in every Olympics since 1976.
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
01:15 Hi!
01:30 Nort Thornton
04:30 Bill Sweetenham's Resume
07:50 How'd you get to coaching Olympians?
12:30 Michelle Ford & Tracey Wickham
13:40 How did you know what to do?
19:00 Lauren Boyle
20:05 Survey Swimmers
23:53 Australian Institute of Sport
30:00 Car Accident
34:36 Relationship with Don Talbot
44:34 How are we getting faster?
46:30 Tuesdays with Bill
49:30 Technique Based Beginnings
51:00 British Swimming
01:00:25 Are you a good delegator?
01:01:24 The Year without Christmas
01:04:20 3 Ways of Winning
01:06:15 How do you change culture?
01:08:20 Brett's Memory
01:09:50 Be proud of it
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Find | Bill Sweetenham
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Apr 22, 2021 • 1h 17min
#154 Josh Watson
Josh Watson is a former Australian backstroker who placed 4th in the 100 Back at the 2000 Sydney Olympics. He became the 200 Backstroke Short Course World Champion at the 1999 Hong Kong World Championships.
Josh is the self proclaimed poster boy for someone who just can't hang up their swimsuit. He called it quits, and came back more than once. His transition from being an elite athlete to not being an elite athlete took a toll on him including his first marriage. Josh had to come to grips with who he is -- and an elite athlete is just one part of him.
He currently resides in Atlanta, GA working for Atomic Athletes. Josh has also started his own business helping athletes transition into life after sport.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
01:15 Where are you coming from?
02:30 Moving to USA for Atomic Athletes
04:50 Connor McGregor fan?
06:30 Where did it start for you?
08:00 Competition amongst friends
09:52 Greg Salter
12:00 Age Group Breakthrough
13:20 "No One Remembers an Age Group Champion"
14:50 3rd at 1996 Olympic Trials
17:45 1999 SC World Championships
20:00 Laurie Lawrence
23:15 Build up to 2000 Sydney Games
32:10 Transitioning to Real Life
35:45 Lenny Krayzelburg
41:00 Elle Macpherson
44:00 Massive Letdown
49:15 Matt Welsh
53:45 Doing what's best for you
01:00:00 Athens 2004
01:01:30 Hanging it Up
01:04:54 Transitioning is Tough
01:14:28 Being a Girl Dad
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Apr 19, 2021 • 1h 4min
#153 Laurie Lawrence
Laurie Lawrence is a living legend; undoubtedly, the most passionate swim coach the world has ever seen. Laurie has helped coach, guide, and support Australia at 8 Olympic Games.
In 1956, his father became the manager of Trobruk Pool where the Australian Olympic swim team held training camps. He grew up as a kid being around the very best: Forbes Carlile, Dawn Fraser, and Murray Rose, just to name a few. This was his introduction to the sport of swimming.
As a coach, over 30 swimmers have made the Olympic team under Laurie, including Champions Duncan Armstrong, Jon Sieben, and Stephen Holland.
Laurie has just recently wrote and self published his own book entitled, "Stuff the Silver, We're Going For Gold!".
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live
01:16 Laurie Lawrence how are you doing?
03:05 "Stuff the Silver, We're Going For Gold!"
04:35 Trobuk Pool, Australian Olympic Team Camp
08:06 1964 Australian Rugby Team
10:20 Two Ways to Win
12:00 Visiting USA, Don Gambril
13:15 Sherm Chavoor, Debbie Meyer, Mike Burton
16:15 Flipp Darr, Gary Hall Sr.
17:15 Steve Holland, Rick DeMont, John Kinsella
22:10 Mark Schubert & Brian Goodell
23:50 Justin Limberg
29:20 Jon Sieben 40x50's Butterfly
30:20 Bob Bowman: "What's your best workout?"
32:00 Fostering a Racing Mentality
33:40 Jon Sieben's Robe
38:30 Duncan Armstrong
39:55 Is there a tough sprinter?
41:00 Bloody knuckles
42:40 Duncan's Extra Training
53:00 Laurie's Memorabilia
57:30 The Kids Alive Do Five
Enjoy!
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Apr 15, 2021 • 1h 6min
#152 Jeremy Linn
American Jeremy Linn won Silver in the 100 Breast at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. He was also part of Team USA's World Record breaking 4x100 Medley Relay that captured Gold -- his fastest split ever.
While at the University of Tennessee, he won 4 NCAA titles and held the 100 Breast record for a decade.
He's been a long time coach with Nation's Capitol Swim Club getting to start NCAP West out in Warrenton, Virginia from scratch. NCAP is one of America's premier swim clubs with over 2,000 kids at 11 sites.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd.Live
01:15 Welcome
02:45 Jeremy's Value System
05:15 What do you believe in? Make a list.
07:00 Empowering kids to make choices
08:30 Why Breaststroke?
10:50 Harrisburg Swim Club with Ed Fraser
11:15 Anita Nall, Kristy Kowal, Brendan Hansen, Michael Norment
12:05 Tennessee, John Trembly
13:09 Message to kids looking to swim in college
16:45 National Team, Pac-Pacs
17:15 Jon Olsen, Grateful Dead
18:50 Making the 1996 Olympic Team
32:50 NCAA's after 96 Olympics
34:15 Steve Lundquist
38:14 Being an underdog
39:05 Confidence
41:30 How to carry yourself
43:00 Getting 9th in Prelims at 2000 OT's
45:00 Jeremy the Swim Coach
47:00 Communication
48:00 College?
50:45 Communication with College Coaches
51:40 Chasing Adam Peaty
55:43 Developing Low Stroke Count
58:20 Aerobic Development for Breaststroke
59:50 Timing in Breaststroke
01:02:38 Dolphin Kick in Breaststroke
01:03:55 OT Predictions
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Apr 12, 2021 • 37min
#151 Andrew Baildon
Andrew Baildon is a 2x Olympic swimmer (1988 & 1992) from Australia, making his first team at just 16 years old. In 1990 he won multiple gold medals at the Commonwealth Games in Auckland, shooting him to stardom in Australia.
In 1996, along with his wife Karen, opened the Andrew Baildon Aquatic Centres. They now have 60 swim instructors teaching over 5,000 swim lessons a week in Queensland.
Andrew is also currently on the Board of Directors at Swimming Australia.
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Virtual Scoreboard
01:16 Big Influence on Brett
02:00 Australian sprinting history
03:00 1988 First Olympic 50m
03:15 Matt Biondi
05:25 What was sprinting like in 1988?
10:35 Commonwealth Games Auckland
14:00 Be In The Moment
15:30 Denis Cotterell Hitchhiked to 1988 Trials
22:00 What Brett learned from Andrew
24:30 Losing his sister, Kate to breast cancer
25:40 Met wife Karen, created a swim school
28:30 What does it mean to be on the board of Swimming Australia?
29:30 Moving the sport forward
31:30 International Swimming League
32:30 Cody Simpson
34:45 COVID in Australia
37:00 His own kids swim
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Apr 8, 2021 • 56min
#150 Bill Pilczuk
Bill Pilczuk is the Head Coach of the Men's and Women's Swimming & Diving teams at The Savannah College of Art and Design. Bill is the reigning NAIA Coach of the Year. The Women's team has won 3 straight NAIA Championships.
As a swimmer, Bill was a dragon slayer. He became World Champion in the Men's 50 Free at the 1998 World Championships in Perth, Australia, taking down the greatest sprinter of all time in Alex Popov.
He used the money he won to pay off his Auburn school debt.
Bill has a fantastic sense of humor which really comes out in this interview.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
01:16 Where are you coming from?
01:30 The Savannah College of Art & Design
2:07 Episode 1(x)50
02:45 How'd you get into swimming?
03:30 Cape May, New Jersey
04:00 Miami-Dade Community College
07:30 Transfer to Auburn
08:05 Won JUCO Nats in 21.1
10:00 Lane 8 Group
12:10 Mike Bottom, Asst. Coach
15:45 What did you do well?
18:35 Never made the SEC team
19:00 FIGHT
20:00 Last Chance Meet 19.7
21:00 Swim Off vs. Jon Olsen
23:30 Popov puffing a cig
24:30 41 Strokes
26:30 Getting 3rd at 96 Trials
29:00 Goal was to travel the world
29:30 Brett becomes Bill's Training Partner
34:00 World Championships 1998
36:00 Alexander Popov
37:30 Yoav Bruck: "Bill you know you can win this."
38:30 Track Start
40:30 Bill's Routine
47:00 Stop Breathing
47:50 Missing the Olympic Team again
49:10 Back injury
51:25 Current Swimmers
52:00 Giving Back to the Swimming Community
53:00 Making Physiology Based Changes
54:00 Documenting Swimming History
55:00 From Beach Lifeguard to America's Best
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