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Jun 11, 2021 • 32min
#169 Ian Hanson
Ian Hanson is the Founder of Hanson Media Group in Queensland, Australia. "Hanso" is the Oceania Correspondent for Swimming World & ASCTA. He's been prepping for his 10th Olympic campaign. You may have just seen him in the new Amazon Prime documentary, Head Above Water, showcasing a few swimmers (Cody Simpson, Bronte Campbell, Kyle Chalmers) and their journey to Australian Olympic Trials.
Hawkey and Hanso discuss everything Australian Olympic Trials, including some Inside information on Mitch Larkin's decision to focus on the 200 IM for the first time.
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Jun 10, 2021 • 59min
#168 Pierre Lafontaine
Pierre Lafontaine is the Head Coach of Swim Ottawa. He was previously the CEO of Swimming Canada, the Head Coach of the Australian Institute of Sport, as well as the Head Coach of both Dynamo and Phoenix Swim Clubs in America.
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SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
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02:00 Intro
05:20 Ottawa
06:20 Justin Norris, The Norris Nuts
09:40 Pierre's Swimming Career
14:15 Phoenix Swim Club
15:40 Australia
16:55 Swimming Canada
19:40 What does the CEO do?
22:30 Canadian Culture
26:45 Invest in Winning
33:45 "It's not when you win but who wins with you."
35:45 Create Smiles
36:10 Changes in Coaching
37:20 Recovery
38:50 Eliminate Boredom
41:45 Documenting Experiences
44:30 "Creating an Environment for Magical Performances"
48:10 Don Talbot
53:20 Brent Rutemiller
54:15 Retirement?
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Jun 7, 2021 • 52min
#167 John Lohn
John Lohn is an American writer and Associate Editor-in-Chief of Swimming World Magazine. He is the author of many swimming books including, "The 100 Greatest Swimmers in History", "The Most Memorable Moments in Olympic Swimming", and his most recent, "Below the Surface".
In this episode, Brett and John discuss the upcoming 2021 USA Olympic Trials.
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SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
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00:00 Swim Angelfish
00:40 Superior Swim Timing
01:15 Destro Swim Towers
01:45 Swimnerd Pace Clocks
02:00 Intro
03:15 Swimming World Magazine
03:45 Intro to Swimming
06:15 Brendan Hansen
08:45 Below the Surface
12:55 Peter Bick
14:35 Australia vs. USA
20:10 Rick DeMont
21:20 Michelle Smith
22:35 Sun Yang
24:25 State of USAS
27:05 Michael Andrew
33:00 David Curtiss
35:10 Women's 100 Back
37:05 Caeleb Dressel 7 Gold Medals
40:55 Emma Nordin
41:39 Emma Weyant
42:40 Men's 100 Breast
43:30 Luca Urlando, Trenton Julian
44:00 Ryan Lochte
45:20 Men's 100 Fly
47:15 Women's 50 Free
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Jun 3, 2021 • 58min
#166 Marcelo Chierighini
Marcelo Chierighini is the most handsome man in swimming. Competing for Esporte Clube Pinheiros, he just recently qualified to represent Brazil for the 3rd time in the 4x100 Free Relay at the Tokyo Olympics. A 22x All American at Auburn University, he's been sub 48 in the 100 LCM Freestyle 3 times.
Marcelo swam for the New York Breakers in 2019 and the Aqua Centurions in 2020. What International Swimming League team will he swim for in 2021?
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SWIM ANGELFISH: Receive the tools and skills needed to teach swimmers with autism, physical disabilities, anxiety, sensory and motor conditions with Swim Angelfish, the global leader in adaptive swim. Get certified online today!
SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
00:00 Pace Clock Giveaway
00:14 Destro Swim Towers
00:44 Superior Swim Timing
01:20 Swim Angelfish Adaptive Swim
02:00 Intro
02:10 Welcome Marcelo
02:55 Coronavirus in Brazil
03:50 Training in Maria Lenk
05:35 Olympic Prep
07:45 100 Free at 2021 Trials
12:45 Doping in Brazil
17:00 Marcelo the Late Starter
23:40 Auburn University
29:20 Sprint Training at AU
33:00 Zach Apple
35:30 Becoming a Pro Swimmer
38:55 Swimming Psychology
41:15 Body Language
46:45 2015 Kazan World Champs
50:33 Don't Try Hard
52:00 Olympic Crowd
54:05 "When you walk out, smile."
54:20 Not Retiring
55:45 Relay Gold??
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May 31, 2021 • 1h 13min
#165 Libby Trickett
Libby Lenton (formerly Trickett) is a 3x Australian Olympian (2004, 2008, 2012) and 7-time Olympic medalist including an individual title in the 100 Fly in 2008. Libby was a barrier breaker. She's the first woman to ever break 53 in the 100 Free and 24 in the 50 Free. She was inducted into the International Swimming Hall of Fame in 2018.
"I just bloody loved racing." - Libby Trickett
00:00 Swimnerd Pace Clock Giveaway
00:15 Superior Swim Timing
00:50 Destro Swim Towers
01:20 Intro
01:30 Hello Libby Trickett!
02:30 Half Marathon
03:40 3 Kids
06:15 Telling Swimming Stories
07:05 Libby the Butterflyer
09:40 Believing in Stephan Widmar
11:50 Jodie Henry, Alice Mills
18:45 Barcelona 2003
19:35 Power Phrases
21:00 Stephan Widmar
23:25 Setting up a Season
26:15 Lactate Removal Set
27:30 Favorite Sets
29:00 Short & Strong
35:00 Every Rep Counts
42:40 Brothers & Sisters?
44:40 Winning Individually
48:00 Worst Race Ever: 100 Free 2008 Beijing
57:00 Beneath the Surface
01:01:01 Barrier Breaker
01:04:00 Mindset, Pressure, Practice
SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
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May 27, 2021 • 1h 18min
#164 Casey Barrett
Casey Barrett swam for Canada at the 1996 Atlanta Games in the 200 Fly, placing 11th. He was a 9x All American swimming for Southern California and Southern Methodist. In high school, Casey attended the Bolles School where he once survived 80x200's long course...
Casey hung up his cap and goggles in 1998 but didn't go far. He is the winner of 3 Emmy awards and 1 Peabody award, serving as one of Bob Costas' Prime Time writers for NBC during the 2004, 2006, and 2008 Olympics.
He is the author of the Duck Darley crime series and the co-founder of Imagine Swimming, a learn to swim school in New York City.
You may also remember his swimming blog, Cap & Goggles. In 2015, he published this article about Katinka Hosszu. The Iron Lady promptly sued him and Swimming World Magazine for defamation, which she lost.
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00:00 TINYURL.COM/SWIMNERD
00:30 Superior Swim Timing
01:00 Destro Swim Towers
01:40 Where are you
02:15 Alex Perry
03:10 Swimming Background
05:30 Happy swimmer?
07:00 Writing for Bob Costas
08:25 Covering Phelps' 8 Gold Medals
11:20 In the Athlete's Corner
13:30 Imagine Swimming, Lars Merseburg
18:45 Learn to Swim Monetization
21:50 Opposing view from Alex Perry
26:00 Putin swimming 200 Flys
30:20 International Swimming League
49:08 Hugs From Gary Hall Jr.
51:28 1996 Atlanta Closing Ceremony
54:34 Katinka Hosszu Defamation Lawsuit
01:07:15 Doping During the Pandemic
01:11:00 Financial Fraud
01:13:10 Covid Olympics
SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
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May 24, 2021 • 1h 9min
#163 Jol Finck
Jol Finck is the National Centre Coach for British Swimming at Bath. At the 2021 British Olympic Swimming Trials, 5 of his swimmers made the team: Calum Jarvis, Matt Richards, Jacob Peters, Brodie Williams, and Kieran Bird.
Prior to this, he was the Director of Swimming at Millfield School. Originally from Australia, Jol cut his teeth under Ian Pope, which is where he met Brett.
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00:00 Pace Clock Giveaway
00:15 Superior Swim Timing
00:50 Destro Swim Towers
01:40 Where are you coming from?
04:10 Brett & Jol's Relationship
06:15 Sprinting Apology
09:00 Massi Rosolino's abs
10:50 Ian Pope
15:35 British Olympic Team
15:55 Being a Great Assistant Coach
25:20 Positive Energy
27:30 Moving to England
35:15 Millfield School
37:25 James Guy
43:45 James Disney May
45:45 Swimming Parents
48:20 200 Freestylers
49:15 5 Olympians
49:30 Calum Jarvis
52:45 Matt Richards
53:55 Jacob Peters
54:40 Brodie Williams
55:40 Kieran Bird
56:00 British Swimming
1:00:00 Can you win the 800 Free Relay?
SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
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May 20, 2021 • 44min
#162 Alex Perry
Alex Perry is a non-fiction writer. He spent the last three years investigating Konstantin Grigorishin and the International Swimming League, FINA, and the IOC.
He is the author of The Good Mothers, The Rift, Falling Off The Edge, and Lifeblood, as well as several ebooks, and ghost-wrote Long Shot for Azad Cudi, a British-Kurdish sniper.
His journalism has appeared in The New Yorker, Outside, Harper’s, The Guardian, TIME, Newsweek, Roads and Kingdoms, The Sunday Times magazine and others.
Enjoy!
01:00 The Plot to Kill the Olympics
01:45 Konstantin Grigorishin
03:55 Why are swimmers poor?
05:05 Doping Ban
08:20 Matt Biondi, Jason Lezak
09:10 Outside Magazine article
11:40 Fearful?
13:20 What about Konstantin?
15:00 Economic Problem
17:00 Image Problem
19:00 Konstantin meets Japanese team
20:00 What blows your mind?
21:33 Pierre the founder of Olympics
24:00 FINA court case
26:30 FINA pays out
28:00 Threatening Athletes
29:00 Australian Swimming Federation
30:20 Sebastian Coe
31:15 Club Career Centric
33:10 Sustainable
35:15 Liquidity
36:15 Konstantin banned from USA
39:00 What else is there?
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SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. tinyurl.com/swimnerd
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May 17, 2021 • 1h 3min
#161 Dara Torres
Dara Torres became an Olympian at 17, 41, and a few more times in between (1984, 1988, 1992, 2000 and 2008). She's part of the exclusive 4/4/4 Club...that's 4 Olympic Gold medals, 4 Olympic Silver medals, and 4 Olympic Bronze medals.
Dara was coached by some of the greatest of all time: Mark Schubert, Randy Reese, Richard Quick, Michael Lohberg, and Mitch Ivey.
A new documentary focusing on Dara was recently released by SEC Stories entitled, "Once Upon a Comeback".
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:15 Destro Swim Towers
00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
01:15 Where are you coming from?
02:00 Trials 2021?
03:40 Career Longevity
07:20 Dara's Practice Book
11:30 Jenny Thompson
20:49 CaniBrands Ambassador
27:20 Eating Disorder
29:10 Stretching & Recovery
30:00 Andy O'Brien
33:45 Outside of the Pool
37:20 Strengths/Weaknesses in the 50
38:19 Breathing
42:20 Sprinting
43:50 50 Free 2008 Beijing Olympics
51:15 The Choke Queen
53:00 Intimidation
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SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. Enter to win!
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May 13, 2021 • 52min
#160 Chico Rego
Chico Rego is an Assistant Swim Coach at the Georgia Institute of Technology. At this year's NCAA Championships, the Ramblin' Wreck Women finished 28th (their best finish in program history) while the Men placed 21st. ACC Champion Caio Pumputis just recently made the Brazilian Olympic team in the 200 IM.
"Hey Brett, how can I get to America? How can I coach in America?”
This is Chico Rego’s story of coming to America. How after being a Grad Assistant at Auburn University he applied to 36 coaching jobs only to receive two in-person interviews. Team Greenville and Karl Kozicki gave him his next opportunity.
Enjoy!
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SUPERIOR SWIM TIMING: Run a swim meet with ease from your laptop. SST is fully compatible with Hy-Tek and Team Unify as well as Colorado, Daktronics, and Omega touchpads. Tell them Brett sent you!
SWIMNERD PACE CLOCK GIVEAWAY: Brett is giving away 2x Swimnerd Pace Clocks on the first night of US Olympic Trials. Enter to win!
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