Inside with Brett Hawke

Kim Vandenberg won an Olympic bronze medal as part of Team USA's 4x200 Free Relay at the 2008 Games in Beijing. She qualified and swam at 5 straight US Olympic Trials, capturing the dreaded 3rd place in the 200 Fly 2 times.   Kim is a mentor for Rise Athletes, a Fitter & Faster coach, a serious Yogi, world traveler, and small business owner. On top of all that, she is a graduate student studying Psychology at Pepperdine University with aspirations of receiving her doctorate and opening up her own practice in the future.  She once won French Nationals and believes the 200 Free is way harder than the 200 Fly.  Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 00:15 Destro Swim Towers 00:45 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard 01:18 Kim Vandenberg where are you coming from 02:10 LA vs. NY 02:45 How'd you get into swimming? 04:00 Doubles at 12 Years Old 06:00 You were a 50 Freestyler!? 06:45 Ron & Don Heidary 07:15 Why UCLA? Cyndi Gallagher. 08:30 Freshman Year 09:00 Greg Meehan, Assistant Coach 10:40 Dana Kirk, Mary Decenza, & Kaitlin Sandeno 11:10 Going Pro After College 12:15 Training with Club Wolverine, Bowman, Phelps 12:45 Won 200 Fly at Nationals, signed with Speedo 13:15 Klete Keller 15:25 Competing in 5 Olympic Trials 21:50 Qualifying in 2008 for the Olympics 23:30 200 Free 25:20 3rd Place in 200 Fly 31:30 All these different coaches 32:45 2012 Olympic Trials Heartbreak 37:20 Was the 200 Fly your baby? 39:45 Being a Mentor 42:15 Proud Olympian 43:15 Kim's Future 44:20 Team USA Invincibility 45:45 Favorite Place 46:15 Favorite Food Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Connect: Find | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Find |  Kim Vandenberg On Instagram  On Twitter  Subscribe & Listen: Apple Podcasts Google Spotify YouTube Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster

Todd DeSorbo is the Head Coach of the Men's & Women's Swimming & Diving Teams at the University of Virginia. The UVA Women just took home their first ever NCAA Championship while the Men's team placed 9th.  A tax accountant before getting into coaching, Todd has gone from UNCW to NC State to UVA. Brett and Todd discuss taking the leap to become a head coach, what UVA is doing the very best at, the art of double tapering, and Eddie Reese's retirement.  00:00 Intro 01:20 Welcome 02:00 Congratulations 04:00 Todd's Vision of UVA 06:45 How'd you know it was time to leave NC State? 09:00 Management Component 11:30 Work Life Balance 14:07 What is UVA doing the best? 18:00 Not coaching Paige Madden 21:00 Balancing 2 Teams: Men & Women 22:15 The Art of Double Tapering 32:00 Recruiting is the Life Blood of Any Program 34:50 Eddie Reese 39:05 Next Head Coach of Texas? 40:00 Todd's Goals Connect: Find | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Find |  Todd DeSorbo On Instagram  On Twitter  Subscribe & Listen: Apple Podcasts Google Spotify YouTube Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster

Roland Schoeman is a 4-time Olympian from South Africa. At the 2004 Olympics in Athens, Roland won a Bronze (50 Free), a Silver (100 Free), and a Gold (4x100 Free Relay). Regarded as having the best start in swimming, Roland was the first human to break 23 in the 50 Fly LCM.  00:00 Intro 00:15 Destro Swim Tower 00:45 Swimnerd Pace Clocks 01:15 Roland Schoeman Intro 02:45 How'd you get into swimming? 08:30 Gavin Ross 10:45 ASU, Iowa State, Arizona 15:00 Transitioning to America 17:20 Backed into a Corner 19:35 Losing his Father 23:25 Summer with Mike Bottom & Nort Thornton 24:15 "There's more than 1 way to skin a cat." - Frank Busch 25:15 Tough conversation with Frank 27:50 Brett could never beat Roland 29:00 Commonwealth Games 2002: The Ready Room 34:00 2004 39:55 Gary Hall Jr. 42:30 2005 Montreal; 50 Fly World Record 47:15 Rivals 47:30 Ryk Neethling 50:20 Why are you still swimming? 55:15 "My Worst Enemy" 56:15 Life After Swimming 57:45 Write a Book Connect: Find | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr on Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Find |  Roland Schoeman On Instagram @roland_schoeman On Twitter @rolandschoeman Subscribe & Listen: Apple Podcasts Google Spotify YouTube Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster

Sarah Dunleavy is currently the college recruiting director for the Sierra Marlins Swim Team. Sarah's collegiate experience includes stints at Kentucky, Pitt, and California. She swam at Purdue. Brett and Sarah discuss in depth about women in swim coaching, their struggles, and how we can do a better job retaining women coaches.   00:00 Intro 00:15 Destro Swim Towers 00:40 Swimnerd Live: the best way to live stream your swim meet 01:00 Sierra Marlins 03:00 Sarah Dunleavy Bio 04:15 Why coaching? 06:00 Swimming at Purdue 07:00 John Klinge's Influence 09:10 What challenged you? 10:15 Trial & Error at Illinois State 11:45 What do you gain from listening to this podcast? 14:30 Having a woman on your coaching staff 15:40 Shortage of women in coaching 22:45 University of California 23:40 Roles at Cal: Compliance, Recruiting, Coaching 25:00 Struggling Personally, Mental Health 32:00 The Cost of Coaching College Swimming 34:00 College Recruiting 37:00 Plans to get back into college coaching?   This episode is sponsored by DESTRO SWIM TOWERS. Use code "BRETT" at checkout and save $150 on a double swim tower!    Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Sarah Dunleavy On Twitter Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster

A special episode talking about NCAA Division I Swimming Championships featuring Cathy Durden (Senior VP of Fan Acquisition for Cal Men's Swimming) and Maxime Rooney. Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Produced by: SWIMNERD Supported by: Fitter & Faster

Chad Le Clos is one of the greatest racers of our lifetime. At 20 years old, he shocked the world by taking down Michael Phelps in the 200 Fly at the 2012 Olympic Games. He is a 4x individual Olympic medalist in 3 separate events including a Silver in the 200 Free behind Sun Yang. 00:00 Intro 01:30 Stuck in South Africa 02:30 Training at 4 Facilities 06:00 Specialize in 1 Event? 07:45 Olympic Inspiration: 2004 4x100 Free Relay 08:55 Michael Phelps 10:00 Coach Graham Hill 11:15 Bert Le Clos 14:20 Winning 2010 Commonwealth Games 16:15 How'd you beat Michael Phelps? 20:00 Toughness 23:45 50's Fly with a Sponge 25:25 200's Fly in Practice? 27:05 Looking Around During the Race 29:50 Responding to L's 34:05 Life After Winning Gold 36:30 Energy Standard 37:45 Phelps is Back 38:40 Silver in 200 Free 39:50 Sun Yang 40:30 Ryan Cochrane 43:15 Shadow Boxing in front of MP 45:30 Sport shouldn't be personal 48:30 Mentality in the Ready Room 50:30 Keep on Swimming 51:15 Behind the Blocks 53:20 James Gibson 54:30 2021 Tokyo Olympics 55:45 Chad Le Clos Swim Academy 57:00 Mare Nostrum 2009 This episode is sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers! Use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Chad Le Clos On Twitter On Instagram Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster Artwork photo courtesy of Mine Kasapoglu. Follow her on Instagram. Also, watch her interview on Episode 134! She can rip down a mountain on skis or a snowboard...Turkish national champion!

Bill Kirby is an Olympic gold medal winning swimmer from Australia. He was part of the 4x200 Free Relay that won in 2000. They broke that relay's World Record 3 different times (1998, 2000, 2001). Bill has recently moved back to Perth and opened up a swim school & swim team: Kirby Swim. This episode is chuck full of amazing stories -- Bill has an outstanding memory. Test sets, kick sets, Alexander Popov, Michael Klim, Ian Thorpe, Grant Hackett, Todd Pearson, Don Talbot, and on and on! Enjoy! This episode is sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers! Use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! 00:00 Intro 01:45 Where are you coming from? 02:00 Kirby Swim in Perth 02:30 How was/is COVID? 04:20 How'd you get into swimming? 05:00 First love was Surf Life Saving 06:05 The backyard swim school instructor 07:00 City of Perth Swimming Club: Shelley Taylor-Smith, Neil Brooks, Dean Peters 08:50 100 Fly National Champ at 17 09:30 Trip to Sweden 10:30 Don Talbot: "You don't think you can win a medal here do you?" 14:30 Where did you see yourself? 16:58 Test Set: 7x200's 19:30 What were your strengths? 21:00 Leading up to Sydney 23:00 Gennadi & Popov Story Time 28:00 Breaking the 4x200 Free Relay World Record 32:15 2000 Sydney Trials 34:30 Leaving Hackett off the Relay 37:00 Swimming is Objective 39:00 Anchoring 40:45 What's Ian Thorpe like in the Ready Room? 42:00 Did winning Gold change your life? 43:45 2001 Final Year of Swimming 46:30 Don Talbot: Australia Can Be the Best 48:15 Wrapping Up Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Bill Kirby Kirby Swim Produced by: SWIMNERD

Arthur Albiero has been the Head Coach of the Men's and Women's Swimming & Diving Teams at the University of Louisville since 2003. When he took the job, the men's team had half of a scholarship. The pool was in a basement. The team had no culture of winning. Fast forward 18 years and all that has been turned around.  Born and raised in Brazil, Coach Albiero has an amazing swimming story. At 12 years old he got the opportunity to attend Don Gambril's swim camp at the University of Alabama. He walked on at Cal State Bakersfield, swimming for the legendary Ernie Maglischo. His first job coaching was at Kenyon College under Hall of Fame Coach Jim Steen. Arthur has had major success at U of L, recently winning the Men's ACC Championship by just 2 points. According to Coach Albiero, those two points were years in the making.  He was named to Team USA's coaching staff for the 2016 Rio Olympics and served as Head Coach for Pan Pacs in 2018. Up next: Tokyo.  Enjoy! This episode is sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! 00:00 Intro 01:06 Arthur Albiero 18th Season at Louisville 03:00 Fastest ACC Meet in History 03:50 How with a restricted season did you swim so fast? 05:45 Guys Stepping Up 07:15 Why this team, why now? 08:45 2 Points Built on Years of Points 09:55 Coaching Your Kids 15:45 How did you get to America? 16:00 Don Gambril Swim Camp 18:00 Cal State Bakersfield & Ernie Maglischo 19:10 Oakland University 19:40 1st Job: Kenyon College & Jim Steen 20:45 Louisville Head Coach at 29 yrs old 24:00 How do you take down Cal & Texas? 29:05 21x50's LCM going SC Goal Time 33:10 Representing Team USA 36:20 What Brazil is missing: YOU! 41:00 Why Louisville? This episode is sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers! Use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Arthur Albiero On Twitter On LinkedIn Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster

Teri McKeever is in the 29th year of being the Head Coach of the Women's Swimming & Diving Team at the University of California. She served as the Head Coach of the U.S. Olympic women’s swim team at the London Olympics. Teri is, "regarded as one of the most accomplished swimming mentors in the United States, if not the world." 00:00 Intro 01:20 Teri McKeever Bio 02:30 How have you been so successful for so long at 1 place? 05:10 Early Struggles 08:15 Be the Best Teri McKeever 09:00 Asking for help is a sign of strength. 12:45 Women's Summit 13:35 What makes a great swimmer? 17:00 Sarah Dunleavey 17:15 What's changed the last 10-15 years? 20:10 Being a Female Coach of a Female Team 22:45 "If I was a female I'd be going to swim for Teri." 24:45 Authenticity 25:15 Time Management Lessons 28:40 No Scholarship Increases? 30:00 Common Courtesy From Recruits 32:55 What things do you do for yourself? 37:40 What separates you? 40:20 Training to Perform not Training to Train 41:45 What separates Dana Vollmer and Natalie Coughlin? 43:40 What's the thing that is driving you? 47:00 Congrats on your Pac 12 Championship 47:15 How do you feel about NCAA's? 51:15 How do we keep women in coaching? This episode is sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Teri McKeever On Instagram Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster

Zach Apple is one of Team USA's premier 50/100/200 Freestylers. He won the 100 and 200 Free at the World University Games in 2019 and was part of Team USA's World Champion 4x100 Free Relay in Gwangju that same year. Corona came. Zach didn't touch the water for 3 months. Then he ripped a 48.5 in practice after just 2.5 months of doing singles.   Zach's story is very much about being a late bloomer -- not realizing tech suits were a thing until he was 16 years old... 00:00 Sponsors 01:20 Intro 02:30 Where did it start for you? 04:15 Making Districts as a Sophomore in HS 05:25 Greater Miami Valley YMCA in Ohio 07:00 College Recruiting Process 07:50 Western Kentucky, Claire Donahue 08:30 20.3/44.5/1:38 Senior Year 09:00 Western Kentucky Suspends Swimming Program 09:45 Kirk Grand the Auburn connection 10:40 Walking on Auburn's deck for the first time 12:00 Take Advantage of Your Situation 13:15 Coach Chris Bushelman: Set Lofty Goals 14:20 "I think you can go 1:31, 1:30 point." 15:45 "I value the effort." 18:15 Kyle Darmody and lengthening your stroke 20:10 How do you swim the 50, 100, and 200 equally well? 21:35 "I didn't ask a lot of questions about training." 22:25 100 LCM Free is just the bread and butter. 23:20 100 Free Race Strategy 24:05 Back End 50's 24:55 2016 Olympic Trials/2017 US Nationals Breakout Meet 26:15 Beating Caeleb Dressel and Ryan Held in Prelims 28:45 Winning 100 Free at WUG's 29:30 What have you done to improve since going 47.6? 31:00 Didn't touch the water for 3 months 32:45 Going 48.5 after 10 weeks of singles 33:30 Improving his underwater dolphin kick 34:45 Doing things with intention 35:45 Buying in 100% 37:20 The 100 Free is a 2 Horse Race 38:10 How to split the 100 Free to go 46 39:10 How do you balance your freestyle out? 40:30 Don't over kick the first 50 42:30 Mental Work, Visualization This episode is sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Subscribe, Review, Share! Apple Google Spotify YouTube Connect | Brett Hawke On Instagram @hawkebr On Twitter @insidewithbh On Facebook @insidewithbh Connect | Zach Apple On Twitter On Instagram Produced by: SWIMNERD Sponsored by: Destro Swim Towers: use code "brett" at checkout to save $150 per double tower! Supported by: Fitter & Faster