
Glass and Out
The Coaches Site Founder Aaron Wilbur sits down with some of hockey’s top coaches and leaders to learn about their journey and dissect the lessons they’ve learned along the way. Each episodes features key take aways for coaches of all levels. The Glass and Out Podcast is required listening for coaches looking to gain key insights from hockey’s most influential leaders.
Latest episodes

Aug 1, 2024 • 34min
Hockey Factories Podcast: Science, Sleep and Peter Forsberg
The Hockey Factories Podcast is back for Season 2! TCS Contributor Matt Dumouchelle gives you an exclusive listen to the coaches, managers and players from some of the top hockey development program's in the world. Check out this exclusive listen of episode 1, where we take a look at how science has crept into the sports world, maybe nowhere as clearly as Zug in Switzerland. Dumouchelle gets to fan-girl a bit and we'll talk about skills that are becoming more prevalent like read and react and another that we seem to be losing because of the overwhelming increase of individual skills training. Subscribe on now on Apple and Spotfiy to hear every episode from Season 1 and 2.

Jul 5, 2024 • 56min
State & Liberty Co-Founder Lee Moffie: Live at TCS Live
In episode #265 and the season finale, we welcome Lee Moffie, Co-Founder of State & Liberty Clothing Company. As you likely know, State & Liberty is the presenting sponsor of Glass and Out. Their line of performance clothing designed for athletic men is worn by athletes in the NHL, NFL, MLB, NCAA, UFC and almost every other professional league. During our recent trip to Ann Arbor for TCS Live, Moffie and his teamn were gracious enough to host a VIP event for our community at their flagship store the night before the conference. That included a sit down with Moffie, who also happens to be a former University of Michigan hockey alumni. Listen as he shares the story of founding a clothing company with no past experience in the idustry, leadership lessons he's taken from his career in hockey, and tips on creating a culture for high functioning teams.

Jun 28, 2024 • 54min
Moncton Wildcats Head Coach Gardiner MacDougall: Live at TCS Live
In episode #264, we had the honor of being joined by Gardiner MacDougall, live and in person at last week's TCS Live coaching conference. MacDougall presented on "Creating the "WOW" Factor from Your First Team Meeting" and also stopped by our Overtime event at the Circ Bar in downtown Ann Arbor. He is coming off an unprecedented 3 year run, which saw him capture back to back USports National Championships with the UNB Varsity Reds, the second of which included an undefeated 43-0 season, a Gold Medal leading Canada at the U18 Championships, a Gold Medal at the FISU World University Games and a Memorial Cup Championship with the Saint John Sea Dogs. After 24 seasons leading the University of New Brunswick, which included 9 National Championships, Gardiner is moving on to coach the QMJHL’s Moncton Wildcats. He'll be working alongside his son Taylor, who will be the club’s General Manager. Listen as he shares why losing can be necessary for overall team success, how to build a players confidence, and why simplicity is key to an effective practice plan.

Jun 14, 2024 • 1h 21min
Phoenix Jr. Coyotes Head Coach Steve Sullivan: Improving goal scoring, why you need to be stubborn and keeping your opponents guessing
In episode #263, we're joined by Steve Sullivan, who currently holds the position of Head Coach with the the Phoenix Jr. Coyotes 18U AAA. Following a playing career of over 1,000 NHL games, Sullivan joined the Arizona Coyotes as a Development Coach and would eventually work his way into management and become the club’s General Manager in 2019. Following a change in ownership, he remained in Phoenix and began coaching in the Jr Coyotes program. Sullivan is an open book when it comes to how he develops players, runs practice and prepares players for the next stage of their career. Guaranteed you’re going to steal a thing or two. Listen as he shares how to improve a player's goal scoring ability, why stubbornness played a key role in his hockey journey, and why team success is about being predictable within but unpredictable to your opponent.

Jun 7, 2024 • 1h 9min
Grand Rapids Griffins Head Coach Dan Watson: Crashing in the coaches office, three keys to culture and finding quality drills
In episode #262, we welcome Dan Watson, Head Coach of the Grand Rapids Griffins. Watson is coming off his first season with the Detroit Red Wings AHL affiliate. Previous to that, he spent 14 consecutive seasons with the ECHL's Toledo Walleyes. In his first season, he was awarded the Jack Brophy Trophy as the ECHL’s Coach of the Year and would go on to guide the Walleye to two regular season Championships and two Kelly Cup Finals appearances. Listen as he shares why sleeping in the arena is a right of passage for coaches, his three keys to building a strong team culture, and why it's quality over quantity when it comes to drills.

May 31, 2024 • 1h 26min
ZSC Lions Head Coach Marc Crawford: Leaving Gretzky on the bench, being wow'd by Auston Matthews and common championship traits
Head Coach Marc Crawford discusses leaving Gretzky on the bench, insights from Auston Matthews, and common traits of championship teams. The podcast explores hockey analytics evolution, playoff matchups, player performance optimization, and pressure in shootouts. It also reflects on the coaching legacy of Roger and the Vancouver team.

May 24, 2024 • 1h 10min
San Jose Sharks Assistant Coach Ryan Warsofsky: Managing stress, process for avoiding negativity and practice habits becoming game reality
In episode #260, Assistant Coach for the San Jose Sharks and presenter at the upcoming TCS Live, Ryan Warsofsky stops by. At just 36 years-old, Warsofsky just completed his first season behind an NHL bench after climbing the coaching ladder at a rapid pace. That includes time as a Head Coach in the ECHL and AHL, two Calder Cup championships and an ECHL record for fewest goals against in a season during his first season leading the South Carolina Stingrays. He’s one of the top up and coming coaches in the game and is highly regarded by his peers in the industry. It will be fun to follow his coaching journey from here. Listen as he shares why coaches need to find releases to deal with anxiety, importance of creating a process to avoid negativity, and why practice habits become game reality.

May 17, 2024 • 56min
Princeton University Head Coach Ben Syer: Positive peer pressure, finding a player's "wow" factor and not jumping ship
In episode #259, we welcome Ben Syer, who was recently named Head Coach of Princeton University's men's program. Previously, he spent eight seasons as an assistant with Quinnipiac University and 13 with Cornell University. During that time, Cornell won an ECAC Championship and made 6 trips to the NCAA tournament. Based on the outpouring of support he's received from his peers, there is no doubt that Syer is deserving of this new position and is set up to have success leading the Tigers. Listen as he shares why positive peer pressure is the key to creating a competitive environment, finding the "wow" factor in a player's game, and the importance of improving the situation you're in, rather than jumping ship.

May 9, 2024 • 56min
Omaha Lancers Head Coach Lennie Childs: Bringing the juice, standing with your players and coaching the generation of "me"
In episode #258, we're joined by newly named Head Coach of the USHL's Omaha Lancers, Lennie Childs. This comes following a two year run at Union College where he worked under Josh Hauge. Previously, he spent time with the NAHL's Janesville Jets and the USHL's Des Moine Buccaneers. As you'll find out, Childs's energy is infectious and is clearly riding a wave of momentum right now. The USHL has a long and impressive list of coaching alumni and it wouldn’t surprise us in the least if down the road, he joins that club. Listen as he shares why you always need to bring the juice, the importance of standing with your players through the good and bad, and coaching in the generation of "me."

May 3, 2024 • 48min
The Coaches Site's Kelvin Cech: Having a growth mindset, lessons from Barry Trotz and rejoining TCS
In episode #257, we come full circle and welcome back the original co-host of the Glass and Out Podcast, Kelvin Cech. We're proud to announce that Cech has rejoined The Coaches Site as our new Manager of Content Collaboration! This comes after he spent four seasons in the Manitoba Junior Hockey League. The first two were spent as the Head Coach and Gm of the Winkler Flyers, where he was awarded Coach of the Year in his first season. From there, he was appointed the Head Coach and GM of the expansion Niverville Nighthawks. Listen as he shares why a growth mindset is integral for coaches, what he learned form coaching in hockey-mad small town, and what to expect from his new role with TCS.