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Yuval Kaminka, entrepreneur and co-founder of Simply, shares how nearly running out of money transformed the company. He discusses radical transparency, layoffs, profitability, and opening the bank account to employees. He explores why children abandon instruments, how music and drawing foster healing, Simply’s therapeutic work at Sheba, and honoring his late co-founder Roey and nephew Yanai.

Gili Raanan, cybersecurity entrepreneur, CAPTCHA inventor, and founder of Cyberstarts, shares his unconventional way of spotting exceptional founders by asking about their mothers and childhoods. He recalls being ghosted by Assaf Rappaport, Wiz’s landmark journey, and founder autonomy behind its acquisition. He also explores AI-driven cyber threats, zero vulnerabilities, government readiness, identity for AI agents, and how October 7th reshaped his empathy and investing.

Douglas Atkin, community strategist, author of The Culting of Brands, and former Airbnb community leader, explores why ordinary people join cults and why brands inspire near-religious loyalty. He reveals how Airbnb forged its purpose, fought New York for host privacy, and rejected over a million customers over its values. They also examine demonization in politics, declining religion, loneliness, and designing communities that bring people together.

On this special episode of Invested, Michael Eisenberg pulls together the sharpest AI arguments from the last year of the show and puts them in conversation with one another. You'll hear from Gavin Baker, Sarah Tavel, Micha Kaufman, Elad Raz, Eran Shir, Zach Greenberger and David Magerman - seven investors and founders who disagree about almost everything except the stakes. This is not a group of people arguing over the same set of facts. Because the field is moving so quickly, each of them is describing a different epoch of AI. Compute was supposed to depreciate quickly - instead, demand is growing. Inference wasn't supposed to be profitable - today it is wildly profitable. AI was supposed to be a game for frontier labs only - open source models are now competing with them. And AI was supposed to trigger mass unemployment - the latest numbers suggest the companies going all in on AI are hiring more people, not fewer. From David Magerman calling the financial bubble 10 to 50 times the size of the internet bubble, to Gavin Baker walking through the ROI math on trillions of dollars of GPU spend, to Micha Kaufman arguing that AI gives everyone the same superpowers and therefore gives no one an advantage, to Elad Raz on why the age of compute has replaced the age of energy - this is a fast, honest map of where the debate actually stands. They discuss: Whether AI is a financial bubble - and whether that even matters The $200 billion, $600 billion and now trillion-dollar ROI question on GPU spending What actually improved (and what didn't) between Hopper, Blackwell and Rubin Why inference is gross-margin profitable while model training amortization isn't pretty The employment debate: replacement, augmentation or temporary dislocation What AI does to junior work, mentorship and the pipeline of senior engineers Scaling agent capital instead of human capital - and paying developers to spend tokens Why building a "bridge" the labs will bulldoze is a treacherous strategy Why data and information theory still beat throwing everything into an LLM The unknowable economic returns to superintelligence Why the world moved from fighting over food, to energy, to compute Featured in this episode: Gavin Baker is the Managing Partner and Chief Investment Officer of Atreides Management, LP. Prior to founding Atreides in 2019, Gavin was at Fidelity Investments from 1999 to 2017, most recently as the portfolio manager of the Fidelity OTC Portfolio. Sarah Tavel is a Venture Partner at Benchmark, where she invests in network effect businesses and applications leveraging AI. She was the first female General Partner in Benchmark's history. Prior to Benchmark, Sarah was a General Partner at Greylock Partners, and she joined Pinterest in 2012 after co-leading the Series A investment while at Bessemer Venture Partners. Micha Kaufman is the founder and CEO of Fiverr, the global freelance marketplace that helped define the gig economy. Since launching the platform in 2010, Micha has led Fiverr from a scrappy, bootstrapped startup into a publicly traded company offering millions of services across hundreds of categories. Elad Raz is the Founder and CEO of NextSilicon, a deep-tech company redefining high-performance computing and AI infrastructure. A graduate of the IDF's elite Unit 8200, Elad brings more than 20 years of experience in technology, entrepreneurship and executive leadership. Eran Shir is the Co-Founder, CPO & Chairman at Nexar. He is a serial entrepreneur and investor, and previously served as Entrepreneur in Residence at Aleph. Zach Greenberger is the CEO of Nexar, leading the company's mission to build AI for the physical world using real-world driving data. Prior to Nexar, Zach served as Chief Business Officer at Lyft and held leadership roles at Tesla. Since their episode aired, Nexar and Nauto have agreed to merge, with Zach leading the combined company. David Magerman is a co-founder and Managing Partner at Differential Ventures, a New York-based venture capital fund investing in deep technology companies that help power the data-driven economy. Previously, he spent the entirety of his career at Renaissance Technologies, widely recognized as the world's most successful quantitative hedge fund management company. If you want a clear-eyed view of the bull case, the bubble case, the labor case and the compute case - all in one sitting - this compilation is essential listening. Michael's hope is that you finish it with more questions than answers, and that you go deeper on the full episodes. Please rate this episode 5 stars wherever you stream your podcasts! KEY TOPICS 00:00 - "AI Is a Machine Gun We're Giving Children" 00:43 - Same Topic, Different Epochs 02:10 - How Wrong We All Were a Year Ago 03:12 - A Bubble 10 to 50x the Internet Bubble 03:46 - "OpenAI Isn't a Functioning Business" 03:58 - Hopper to Blackwell: Linear Scaling 04:31 - The Trillion-Dollar ROI Question 05:23 - "I've Never Seen Anything Like This" 06:13 - The Great Employment Debate 07:08 - It's Still the First Inning 07:33 - The Illusion of AI Superpowers 08:51 - Replacing Labor or Augmenting It? 09:13 - What AI Does to Junior Work 09:30 - Scaling Agent Capital, Not Headcount 10:28 - $300 a Day in Tokens Per Developer 12:01 - "We're Going to Bulldoze You" 13:15 - Data Beats Throwing It All Into an LLM 14:12 - Food, Then Energy, Now Compute 14:36 - The Unknowable Returns to Superintelligence 15:22 - More Questions Than Answers RESOURCES Watch the full episode with Gavin Baker - https://www.aleph.vc/content/gavin-baker Watch the full episode with Sarah Tavel - https://www.aleph.vc/content/sarah-tavel Watch the full episode with Micha Kaufman - https://www.aleph.vc/content/micha-kaufman Watch the full episode with Elad Raz - https://www.aleph.vc/content/elad-raz Watch the full episode with Eran Shir & Zach Greenberger - https://www.aleph.vc/content/eran-shir-and-zach-greenberger Watch the full episode with David Magerman - https://www.aleph.vc/content/david-magerman Follow Gavin on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavinbaker-portfoliomanager/ Follow Sarah on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahtavel/ Follow Micha on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michakaufman/ Follow Elad on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eladraz/ Follow Eran on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/eranshir/ Follow Zach on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/zach-greenberger-a3a3444a/ Follow David on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-magerman-954b25174/ Subscribe to Invested here - https://content.aleph.vc/invested Learn more about Aleph - https://www.aleph.vc/ Sign up for Aleph's monthly email newsletter - https://newsletter.aleph.vc/ Subscribe to our YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@aleph-vc/ Follow Michael on Twitter - https://twitter.com/mikeeisenberg Follow Michael on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mieisenberg/ Follow Aleph on Twitter - https://x.com/aleph?s=20 Follow Aleph on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/aleph-vc/ Follow Aleph on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/aleph.vc/ CREDITS Executive Producer: Erica Marom  Producer: Sofi Levak, Dalit Merenfeld Video and Editing: Nadav Elovic  Music and Creative Direction: Uri Ar  Content and Editorial: Jackie Goldberg Design: Nimrod Sapir

On this episode of Invested, Michael Eisenberg sits down with Daniel Lubetzky — founder of KIND Snacks, Shark Tank investor, and founder of the Builders Movement — for a wide-ranging conversation about building enduring companies, the values behind them, and using business as a tool to bring divided people together. Daniel shares how KIND grew from a $10,000 idea into a multibillion-dollar brand with only $5 million in primary investment, why he named the company after his father Roman, a Holocaust survivor, and how a decade of failures with his first venture, PeaceWorks, taught him everything he needed to build KIND. He and Michael also go deep on the Middle East, the origins of the “oppressor vs. victim” framework, why good intentions so often produce bad outcomes, and how the Builders Movement is working to equip citizens to solve problems rather than tear each other apart. Drawing on Daniel’s journey from a Jewish school in Mexico City to Stanford Law School to the set of Shark Tank, this episode weaves together entrepreneurship, parenting, resilience, and the conviction that — as Daniel puts it — values create value. They discuss: How KIND grew from $10,000 to a multibillion-dollar company with just $5M in primary investment Why Daniel named the brand after his father, a survivor of the Kovno ghetto and Dachau The decade of failures at PeaceWorks that made KIND possible Why “values are only values when they’re tested and cost you something” Saying no to the zero-sugar fad — and the courage to know what you are not Builders vs. destroyers: the three Ds and the four Cs of a builder’s mindset Why he believes we’re raising a generation without the agency to solve problems What the Abraham Accords prove about challenging conventional wisdom Why he joined Shark Tank full-time — and the deal he thinks could be worth billions Fixing Section 230 and confronting the harms of social media Best known as the founder of KIND Snacks, Daniel is a social entrepreneur whose work spans industries, ideologies, and borders—always rooted in the same mission: to equip people to think flexibly, solve problems creatively, and build durable solutions to our world’s most difficult challenges. Today, through Camino Partners, Daniel and his team of investor-operators back leaders building businesses taking an enduring approach to enhancing consumers’ lives. He is also the founder of Builders, a movement helping people move beyond "us vs. them" mindsets. Builders equips citizens to uncover hidden common ground and build on it – with durable solutions that advance the will of the people. After five seasons as a guest on Shark Tank, Daniel joined the cast full-time in 2024. He is also the author of The New York Times-bestseller Do the KIND Thing. Daniel holds a BA in Economics and International Relations from Trinity University and a JD from Stanford Law School. A proud U.S. citizen who immigrated from Mexico at 16, he enjoys time with his family and a good magic trick. If you want to understand how to build a brand that lasts, why failure is the raw material of success, and what it takes to build bridges in a divided world, this episode is essential viewing. Please rate this episode 5 stars wherever you stream your podcasts! KEY TOPICS  00:00 – A Multibillion-Dollar Brand, No Investment Needed 01:47 – Why He Named It KIND 04:10 – His Father Roman, a Holocaust Survivor 09:19 – Moshe Pupik and the PeaceWorks Years 14:09 – The Night He Bummed a Ride From Michael Dell 17:34 – The Bus Ride That Set His Life’s Mission 20:39 – “I Wear My Failures Proudly” 22:22 – What the Abraham Accords Prove 24:59 – Builders vs. Destroyers 30:17 – Give Every Kid a Different Initial 33:00 – When Good Intentions Go Wrong 37:22 – Values Only Count When They Cost You 39:33 – Saying No to the Zero-Sugar Fad 41:26 – Why He Sold KIND 44:10 – Why He Joined Shark Tank 48:14 – How He Saved Neuro Gum 52:00 – Force-Feeding Manhattan, One Store at a Time 60:29 – Fixing Section 230 & Social Media RESOURCES Follow Daniel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniellubetzky  Subscribe to Invested: https://content.aleph.vc/invested Learn more about Aleph: aleph.vc  Sign up for Aleph’s monthly email newsletter: https://newsletter.aleph.vc/ Subscribe to Aleph’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@aleph-vc/ Follow Michael on Twitter: twitter.com/mikeeisenberg Follow Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mieisenberg/ Follow Aleph on Twitter: https://x.com/aleph?s=20  ‍Follow Aleph on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aleph-vc/ ‍Follow Aleph on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aleph.vc/ CREDITS Executive Producer: Erica Marom  Producer: Sofi Levak, Dalit Merenfeld Video and Editing: Nadav Elovic  Music and Creative Direction: Uri Ar  Content and Editorial: Jackie Goldberg Design: Nimrod Sapir

Yuval Ariav, solo GP of Symbol Capital and former founder/executive at Fundbox and Onavo, and Columbia lecturer on data and society. He explains pre-consensus investing and why early, strange bets can win. He warns how hot rounds erode conviction. He discusses NextSilicon as a potential Israeli NVIDIA and Jiga targeting a $1.1 trillion invisible procurement market.

Saar Safra, founder and CEO of Beewise and a longtime entrepreneur-turned-technologist, explains why declining bee colonies threaten global food security. He discusses the limits of the 19th-century wooden hive, the solar-powered BeeHome robot that monitors and treats colonies with AI, and the hidden industry of honey laundering. Conversation highlights pollination as infrastructure and scalable tech solutions to protect crops.

David Siegel, former CEO of Meetup and Investopedia and founder of the Israel Tech Mission, is a tech leader focused on community-building. He discusses the loneliness crisis, how Meetup was rescued and turned profitable, why screens and social media increase social anxiety, Israel’s approach to belonging, and the idea of mandatory national service as a scaleable solution.

Oren Zeev, founder of Zeev Ventures and solo VC managing billions, built hits like Audible and Navan with fast conviction and founder focus. He discusses why code is no longer a moat and why proprietary data, integrations, and trust matter. He tells Navan’s survival story from near-collapse to a rough IPO. He warns about the dangers of obsessive 10x growth and explains what durable defensibility looks like today.

Elad Raz, Founder and CEO of NextSilicon and veteran of Unit 8200, talks about reinventing compute with a reconfigurable dataflow chip. He explains why current GPU-centric architectures may be memory-bound, how throughput and token economics shift with memory tiers, and why future models could demand radically different hardware. He also shares NextSilicon’s path into HPC and national-lab deployments.