Dream Founders Shalev Hulio and Sebastian Kurz on How Dream Became the World’s Fastest-Growing Cyber Startup Within 18 Months, Building the First AI Native Cybersecurity Company, and Whether it’s Possible to Ethically Use Offensive Cyber

On this episode of Invested, Michael hosts two of the co-founders of Dream, Shalev Hulio and Sebastian Kurz. 

Sebastian Kurz is a former Austrian politician who served as Chancellor of Austria from 2017 to 2019, and again from 2020 to 2021. A member of the Austrian People's Party (ÖVP), he began his political career in the party's youth wing, rising to prominence as State Secretary for Integration (2011–2013) and Foreign Minister (2013–2017). Kurz led the ÖVP to victory in the 2017 election, becoming one of the world's youngest heads of government at age 31. Since leaving politics, Kurz has worked as a global strategist and entrepreneur.

Shalev Hulio is a serial entrepreneur and cybersecurity expert. He co-founded NSO Group in 2010, serving as CEO until August 2022, where he oversaw the development of Pegasus, a controversial spyware used by governments to track criminal and terrorist activity. Prior to NSO, Hulio co-founded several tech ventures, including CommuniTake and Kaymera Technologies. 

Together with Gil Dolev, Sebastian and Shalev founded Dream Security in January 2023, which specializes in AI-powered cyber defense.

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KEY TOPICS 

00:00:00 The Unexpected Birth Story of Dream 00:05:50 From Politics to Tech Entrepreneurship 00:11:48 Cybersecurity: From Offense to Defense 00:14:35 Why AI Matters in Cybersecurity 00:17:32 Cyber Attacks and National Security 00:20:55 NSO & Building Trust in High-Stakes Environments 00:23:54 The Future of Cybersecurity and Ethics 00:26:53 Investing in Times of Crisis 00:29:34 Cybersecurity and Geopolitical Tensions 00:32:59 Dream’s Vision and Market Strategy 00:35:42 Cybersecurity: Challenges and Opportunities 00:44:48 The Importance of Leadership 00:56:29 The Birth of Dream 01:02:01 Cybersecurity as a National Threat 01:06:23 The Changing Landscape of Defense Spending 01:10:32 The Growth of Dream 01:12:01 Navigating Ethical Boundaries in Cybersecurity

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CREDITS

Executive Producer: Erica Marom 

Producer: Yoni Mayer, Myron Shneider

Video and Editing: Ron Baranov

Music and Creative Direction: Uri Ar 

Content and Editorial: Kira Goldring

Design: Rony Karadi