

Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock'n'Roll
Alexander Bechtel, Michael Blaschke, Jonas Gross, Manuel Klein
Digital currencies are here to stay. In this podcast, we dive into the world of the new money. We explore Bitcoin, stablecoins, central bank digital currencies, and many other innovations in the realm of digital currencies.
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Jul 6, 2025 • 1h 13min
Inside the ECB's Digital Euro Project and Stablecoins with Ulrich Bindseil
Balancing financial sovereignty with innovation - and how to navigate the future of public and private digital money with Ulrich Bindseil (ex-ECB)
🎙 BFRR – Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll is back with a timely deep dive into the evolving landscape of digital money. In this episode, co-host Jonas is joined by Ulrich Bindseil, Director General of Market Infrastructure and Payments at the European Central Bank (ECB), for a wide-ranging and insightful conversation on CBDCs, stablecoins, and the future of payments in Europe.
Ulrich, who has been shaping ECB policy for over two decades, shares his unique perspective on the digital euro project, offering behind-the-scenes insights on its progress, challenges, and ambitions. From strategic decisions to technical architecture and privacy considerations, this episode covers the most important developments in the preparation phase—and what lies ahead beyond 2025.
We also take a critical look at stablecoins, including their potential benefits, regulatory considerations under MiCA, and the ECB’s cautious but evolving stance on their role within the European financial ecosystem. Can euro-denominated stablecoins support the international role of the euro? Should the ECB allow them access to its balance sheet? And what role could public blockchains play in the future of wholesale finance?
The episode closes on a personal note as Ulrich reflects on his 28-year journey at the ECB and hints at what's next. If you're curious about how digital public money, blockchain, and monetary sovereignty intersect, this episode is a must-listen.
🧠 Topics:
ECB’s digital euro strategy & timeline
Stablecoins & e-money tokens under MiCA
Permissionless DLTs vs. permissioned infrastructure
Interoperability, privacy & market share goals
The ECB’s pre-funding policy & wholesale payments innovation
International competition, strategic autonomy & future challenges
📡 Stay informed. Stay curious. Subscribe now and join us at the frontier of digital finance.
Note that the episode was recorded on June 25, 2025. On this date, Ulrich was still in his role at the European Central Bank, which he left on June 30.
Paper on digital money taxonomy
Paper on digital money infrastructure
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SSRN Account Ulrich Bindseil
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Jun 29, 2025 • 1h 2min
US Senate Passes GENIUS Act | News
Senate passes first US stablecoin law as Circle IPOs and JPM launches tokenized deposits.
🎙️ In this end-of-month news episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, hosts Jonas, Alex, and Michael unpack the hottest developments in digital finance during June 2025 – and what a month it was.
The stablecoin hype continues with regulatory history being made: the U.S. Senate passed the Genius Act, the first major stablecoin regulation in the U.S. This bipartisan legislation sets clear rules for reserve backing, consumer protection, and issuer licensing, marking a pivotal step toward mainstream stablecoin adoption. But will combining it with the broader Clarity Act derail its momentum?
Meanwhile, Circle’s IPO hit the New York Stock Exchange – and made headlines. With a valuation nearing $50B, it surpassed even Deutsche Bank, making it one of the most successful (and underpriced) IPOs in decades. Is this sustainable or just a reflection of FOMO in the stablecoin gold rush?
We also dive into JP Morgan’s bold move: launching the JPMD tokenized deposit on Coinbase’s Base – a first for a major bank on a public blockchain. What does this mean for the future of bank-issued money and the evolving lines between stablecoins and deposit tokens?
On the market side, Bitcoin hovered around $107K despite geopolitical shocks, with new players like Paris Saint-Germain and Pakistan building Bitcoin reserves. ETH remained steady, and we reflect on our ETH “alpha” moment earlier this year 👀.
Plus:
• Why Stripe’s acquisition of wallet provider Privy shows real-world crypto payments are coming fast.
• Circle vs. Tether: why Genius gives Circle the edge.
• Could Europe be falling behind as the U.S. projects “crypto-mercantilism” to defend the dollar?
Don’t miss our closing Knowledge Bites, including new papers on Bitcoin reserves, financial sovereignty, and a deep dive into the regulatory arms race between the U.S. and EU.
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Knowledge Bite Jonas: Digital Euro Association: “The Role of Stablecoins in Financial Sovereignty”
Knowledge Bite Alexander (German version): Börsen-Zeitung: “Bitcoin-Reserve: Genialer Schachzug oder kostspielige Fehlentscheidung?”
Knowledge Bite Alexander (English version): Alexander Bechtel: “Bitcoin Reserve: Genius move or costly mistake?”
Knowledge Bite Michael: European Parliament Think Tank: “Cryptomercantilism vs. Monetary Sovereignty: Dealing with the Challenge of US Stablecoins for the EU”
BFRR E340: US vs EU: The Stablecoin Policy Divide
BFRR E346: Scaling B2B Stablecoin Payments: SAP’s Digital Currency Hub
BFRR E348: From Citi Bank to Stablecoins: Tony McLaughlin’s Bold Pivot
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
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Jun 22, 2025 • 41min
Digital Fiat That Never Sleeps: Stablecoin Developments in Payment
Permissionless, programmable, and global—money has a new operating system.
In this solo episode of BFRR – Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock ‘n’ Roll, Manuel dives deep into the fast-evolving world of stablecoins—their structure, use cases, and the challenges that stand between them and mass adoption in traditional finance.
Manuel begins by exploring what makes stablecoins unique compared to traditional account-based money such as bank deposits or fintech balances like PayPal or Venmo. The key difference? Stablecoins are bearer instruments on public blockchains—digital cash anyone can hold and transfer without needing an account, provided they're not on a blacklist.
From there, Manuel examines the regulatory developments across the globe—especially in the EU, US, and Asia—that are bringing stablecoins under the umbrella of regulated financial instruments. Manuel also touches on the debate around whether stablecoins should be yield-bearing, and how that impacts their use as a store of value versus a medium of exchange.
Next, Manuel moves into the real-world use cases—from crypto trading and remittances to B2B and B2C payments, merchant ecosystems, and interbank settlement. You'll hear insights into current adoption trends, including figures from recent studies by BCG and Castle Island Ventures, which estimate payments-based stablecoin volume ranging between $6B and $100B/month.
Finally, Manuel tackles the infrastructure and regulatory hurdles still holding stablecoins back: the need for efficient on/off ramps (the “stablecoin sandwich”), compliance with the travel rule, lack of bulk payment capabilities, and the risks of unintended dollarization in emerging markets.
Whether you're new to digital assets or deep in the crypto weeds, this episode offers a comprehensive overview of the state of stablecoins in payments—where we are today and where we might be heading.
BCG Study: Five killer tests to gauge their potential
Artemis Study: Stablecoin payments from the ground up
BFRR E346: Scaling B2B Stablecoin Payments: SAP’s Digital Currency Hub
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
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Jun 15, 2025 • 57min
Digital Freedom, Privacy & Innovation: A Conversation with Joachim Schwerin
Why digital freedom and privacy matter – and why Joachim sees blockchain technologis’ breakthrough as inevitable
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

Jun 8, 2025 • 1h 8min
The Future of DeFi: AI-Powered Hypercustomized Crypto Yields
Obligate CEO explains how AI innovates DeFi.
In this episode of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, host Michael Blaschke welcomes Matthias Wyss, CEO of Obligate—a Swiss-regulated tokenization platform that’s redefining decentralized finance (DeFi) with over $62 million in issuance volume and an astonishing 1100% YoY revenue growth since 2023.
Matthias, whose background spans investment banking, fintech leadership, and spatial computing, takes us on a deep dive into the convergence of agentic AI and DeFi. Discover how hyper-customized crypto yields are revolutionizing personal finance—bringing institutional-grade strategies to everyday investors.
We explore why now is the perfect time for AI-enabled DeFi: accessible AI tools, scalable blockchains like Solana, and maturing tokenization infrastructure are paving the way for personalized, automated investment products. Learn how AI is powering everything from conversational financial advice to automated yield-generating stablecoins.
Together, we unpack the why, what, and how:
Why it matters: Democratizing access to sophisticated yield strategies previously reserved for the wealthy.
What it means: DeFi moving beyond one-size-fits-all to on-demand, risk-adjusted strategies powered by AI.
How it works: A full-stack tech ecosystem blending blockchain, legal tech, financial engineering, and AI service layers.
From crypto newbies to seasoned professionals, this episode sheds light on the next evolution of finance—making DeFi more user-friendly, compliant, and customizable than ever before. Whether you’re curious about agentic stablecoins, AI-powered asset management, or the changing regulatory landscape, this is an essential listen.
🎧 Tune in now and step into the future of finance—where algorithms mix your crypto cocktails and DeFi finally gets personal.
Matthias Wyss on LinkedIn
Margarita Finance
Participate in Obligate’s current fundraise
E340 US vs EU: The Stablecoin Policy Divide
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

Jun 1, 2025 • 1h 4min
Stablecoin and Real World Tokenization Adoption Accelerates | News
May’s transformational stablecoin news from industry giants – and tokenization novelty
In this news-packed episode of Bitcoin Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, hosts Manuel, Jonas, and Stefan return to dissect May’s hottest developments in the world of digital money and crypto. The crypto market surged to a $3.4 trillion valuation, with Ethereum climbing nearly 50% and Bitcoin reaching a new all-time high of $112,000 – at least in USD.
We deep-dive into the rising momentum around stablecoins. Mastercard, Visa, and Stripe are embracing stablecoins with full force – from wallet integration to direct merchant settlement – signaling a tectonic shift in payments infrastructure. Stripe’s move to support USDC-based accounts in underserved markets shows the global dollarization narrative gaining real traction.
We also unpack Coinbase’s X402, a new payment protocol reviving the old HTTP 402 status code to enable microtransactions—especially for AI agents. Stefan explains how this could reshape the future of machine-to-machine payments.
Public blockchain adoption is growing, with banks joining the race. JP Morgan expands its Onyx network and trials public chain integrations, while Morgan Stanley and others begin offering crypto access to clients. 21X launched its tokenized securities platform in Europe, and Robinhood and Kraken are moving into tokenized stocks.
We close with “Knowledge Bites,” covering Google’s use of ZK proofs, Trump’s crypto ventures, and Microsoft’s vision of an agentic web that could replace SaaS.
It’s clear: from stablecoins to smart protocols, the financial future is arriving faster than expected.
🎧 Tune in to stay informed and get ready for the future of money!
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Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
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May 25, 2025 • 1h 4min
From Citi Bank to Stablecoins: Tony McLaughlin’s Bold Pivot
Tony McLaughlin, eine führende Stimme im digitalen Finanzwesen und bekannt für seine Arbeit am Regulated Liability Network, teilt seine Erfahrungen und Einsichten über Stablecoins und Blockchain-Technologie. Er diskutiert, wie Stablecoins die Finanzlandschaft revolutionieren können und historische Vergleiche zu traditionellen Zahlungsmitteln zieht. Auch Herausforderungen wie die Private Blockchain-Annahme und Integration in Bankensysteme werden behandelt. McLaughlin beleuchtet die Möglichkeiten von Stablecoins zur Effizienzsteigerung im Zahlungsverkehr und die zukünftigen Chancen im digitalen Währungsmarkt.

May 18, 2025 • 1h 13min
Quo Vadis Bitcoin (with Co-Pierre Georg)
Co-Pierre Georg, Professor für Digital Finance an der Frankfurt School und Direktor des Blockchain Centers, diskutiert die Herausforderungen und Chancen digitaler Währungen. Er spricht über die systemischen Risiken von Bitcoin und die Rolle von Stablecoins im Finanzsektor. Die Verbindung von Wissenschaft und Industrie wird besonders betont, vor allem im Kontext von Banken und digitalen Entwicklungsprogrammen. Co-Pierre plädiert für mehr Transparenz im Bildungsbereich und teilt seine Vision für zukünftige Forschungsprojekte, die aktuellen Finanztechnologien gewidmet sind.

May 11, 2025 • 1h 1min
US vs EU: The Stablecoin Policy Divide
Former central banker reveals divergent US-EU stablecoin policies.
🎧 EPISODE: Transatlantic Rifts – US vs EU Crypto Regulation with Jón Helgi Egilsson
Welcome back to Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll, where monetary theory meets blockchain innovation. In this episode, host Michael Blaschke dives into the diverging regulatory landscapes shaping the future of digital finance. The U.S. and the EU are carving different paths in regulating cryptocurrencies, stablecoins, and blockchain infrastructure—an ideological and practical split with global consequences.
Joining us is Jón Helgi Egilsson, Executive Director and co-founder of Monerium, whose unique vantage point spans central banking, fintech entrepreneurship, and both sides of the Atlantic. With a PhD in economics, leadership roles in central banking, and nearly a decade running a European blockchain finance company, Jón breaks down the core philosophical and strategic differences between the U.S.’s market-driven approach and Europe’s sovereignty-first stance.
We unpack how Europe's MiCA regulation contrasts with the U.S.’s Genius Act and forthcoming Stablecoin Act, revealing different views on innovation, risk, and monetary control. John offers a candid critique of the ECB's competitive role in retail digital currencies and explains why requiring non-bank issuers to route through 12 intermediaries may contradict the very ethos of blockchain.
Whether you're a policymaker, bank executive, fintech innovator, or investor, this episode delivers essential insights into how today’s decisions around CBDCs, stablecoins, and bank integration will shape tomorrow’s financial system.
Trump's Stablecoin Strategy To Reinforce U.S. Dollar Dominance
ECB exec renews push for digital euro to counter US stablecoin growthCommission livid as ECB warns of crypto apocalypse under Trump
Monerium – From central banking to stablecoins with co-founder Jón Helgi Egilsson
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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to info@bfrr.de by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.
Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!

May 4, 2025 • 1h 2min
Stablecoins Reshape Global Finance: Circle IPO, PYUSD Rewards & ECB Panic | News
April's stablecoin surge signals a new era for institutional finance.
In this special May edition of Bitcoin, Fiat & Rock’n’Roll (BFRR), we dive deep into April’s most explosive developments in crypto — from Bitcoin dominance and Ethereum’s narrative struggles to the evolving global stablecoin landscape. Hosts Alex and Michael are joined by Simon Seiter, CFO & CPO of AllUnity, one of Europe’s most ambitious euro stablecoin projects, for a timely conversation about the latest market dynamics, policy shifts, and business models shaping the digital currency ecosystem.
The episode kicks off with a sharp analysis of Bitcoin and Ethereum's price action throughout April. Bitcoin showed strength amid traditional market turbulence, outperforming equities and absorbing institutional capital through record-breaking ETF inflows. Meanwhile, Ethereum lagged behind, raising new questions about its long-term value proposition — especially compared to emerging alternatives like Solana.
Our focus then shifts to the rapidly evolving stablecoin sector. The team breaks down Circle’s newly filed IPO and uncovers key financial figures — revealing a growing, but heavily subsidized business model with distribution costs exceeding 60% of revenue. Simon offers behind-the-scenes insight into the economics of issuing regulated stablecoins in Europe and how the market is shaped by both U.S. dominance and European regulatory uncertainty.
We also discuss PayPal’s attempt to pay interest on stablecoin holdings, the SEC’s formal declaration that USDC and USDT are not securities, and growing signs of institutional engagement — including Bank of America’s hint at entering the stablecoin space. The episode also covers Circle’s new global payment network, Revolut’s record crypto profits, Ripple’s acquisition of prime broker Hidden Road, and the birth of 21.co — a Bitcoin-native company backed by Bitfinex, Tether, and SoftBank.
Finally, the episode touches on widening policy gaps between the U.S. and Europe, as U.S. regulators embrace stablecoins as a geopolitical tool, while the ECB warns against them in defense of the digital euro. We unpack what this divergence means for the future of payments, monetary sovereignty, and innovation.
🎧 Tune in for sharp takes, honest analysis, and an uncensored look into crypto’s most important financial and political battlegrounds.
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Digital Euro Conference Partnership: BFRR partners with the Digital Euro Conference 2025 taking place on March 27 in Frankfurt. DEC25 brings together leading voices shaping the financial landscape, covering topics around retail and wholesale CBDCs, stablecoins, and tokenized money in general. As an official event partner, BFRR gives away one free ticket for physical participation in Frankfurt. If you are interested, please write us an email to info@bfrr.de by January 31st. If you are not the “lucky winner”, you get 20% off the ticket prices with the code “BFRR20”. To buy your ticket go to the official website Click here and insert the code “BFRR20”.
Disclaimer: The content of this podcast reflects the private opinions of the hosts, serves exclusively for general information purposes and does not constitute investment advice. Always remember: Do your own research - inform yourself before making any investment decisions, such as buying Bitcoin. First try to understand what Bitcoin is and how to store it. This podcast does not provide financial advice. Note that the co-hosts might be invested in crypto assets. Read more on our website: Click here
All links marked with "*" are affiliate links. If you use these links for purchase, the podcast receives a small share of the revenue without any additional costs to you. On the contrary, affiliate links often include discount promotions, so you can even save money. We would appreciate it if you use these links to support us. Thank you very much!


