
HR Leader Podcast Network
The HR Leader Podcast Network connects you to the brightest and best in HR and people leadership, exploring new ideas so you can deliver more value for your business.
These conversations will influence, shape and lead change, overcoming HR’s top concerns and roadblocks.
Tune in for the thinking that will shape tomorrow’s workplaces, inspiring and enabling you to engage with your people in new and innovative ways.
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Latest episodes

Aug 7, 2024 • 23min
Engaging your disengaged and fence-sitting workers
Research shows that the number of workers who can be described as “fence-sitters” (i.e. those who are quiet quitting) has increased in recent years. It is incumbent on businesses to figure out not just how to retain staff, but to ensure that those who are not as engaged as they could be can rediscover their passion, motivation and, ultimately, productivity. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with operational excellence strategist, author and mentor Ishan Galapathy about the state of affairs with workplace engagement, why employers and HR professionals need to be so concerned about “fence-sitters” and winning them back, navigating that which is “volatile, uncertain, complex, and ambiguous”, and the questions that businesses and team leaders need to be asking of themselves when it comes to shoring up workplace engagement. Galapathy also delves into whether those employees who are already engaged need to take greater responsibility for bringing the disengaged and “fence-sitting” colleagues along for the ride, recounts some case studies about successful engagement of a workforce, how technology can help better engage those sitting on the fence, and how culture will improve from a more strategic focus on workplace engagement.

Jul 31, 2024 • 19min
Educating the workforce about all things tech
Ensuring that workers across the business are up to speed on new software, cyber risks, and AI opportunities is not just about ROI – it’s also about fostering effective and meaningful collaboration between teams so as to better achieve business objectives. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jack Campbell speaks with Domain general manager of product Danielle Harmer about making sure a tech stack is up to scratch, prioritising accordingly, making the right investment in cyber security frameworks, the risk of setting and forgetting, and overcoming budgetary constraints. Harmer also delves into how to make sure teams are across the myriad technological changes being onboarded, the risks inherent with insufficient training, mitigating cyber risks, making sure that employees are on top of cyber concerns, and privacy and compliance considerations.

Jul 25, 2024 • 24min
Reasonable contact of staff under the new Right to Disconnect
Until such time as the Fair Work Commission sets precedents from test cases, employers may need to err on the side of caution when it comes to the implementation of the new Right to Disconnect. This does not, however, mean leaders in law should be trepidatious – instead, the new laws are an opportunity for optimal leadership. In this episode of The HR Leader podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with law lecturer Dr Gabrielle Golding from the University of Adelaide to discuss her research into the need for a workplace right to disconnect (which has now become law), what the new laws will look like in practice, the definition of reasonableness, and how employers are broadly feeling about their new obligations. Dr Golding also delves into how leaders can approach their new duties on top of all other competing obligations, the volume of unpaid labour being undertaken in Australia’s workforce, how businesses can react accordingly, the potential for exacerbation of generational differences, the various scenarios in which an employee can or should be contacted, the need to err on the side of caution, and waiting for test cases.

Jul 17, 2024 • 19min
The impact of inflated wellbeing policies
According to Roxanne Calder, the age of COVID-19 blurred the lines between workplace wellness and individual wellbeing, with new expectations for workplace policies creating undue burdens for businesses and their leaders. In this episode of The HR Leader podcast, host Jack Campbell speaks with EST10 founder Roxanne Calder about revamped policies potentially putting too much pressure on workplaces, the potential flow-on effects for employers, the sweeping impacts of burnout on workers across the board right now, and including more workers in decision making about policy decisions. Calder also delves into the pressure being exerted to solve an individual’s wellbeing versus broader wellness responsibilities, striking the right balance and remaining competitive as an employer, the duty of candidates to align themselves with ideal employers, the utility of options like a four-day working week, and ensuring better understanding of working conditions and expectations.

Jul 11, 2024 • 32min
People-centred change in times of great upheaval
In this special episode of The HR Leader Podcast, produced in partnership with O.C. Tanner, the global leader in strengthening organisational culture through meaningful employee recognition, Russell Flint and Paul Stratford discuss the challenges of managing change and uncertainty in the workplace during Newmont’s acquisition of Newcrest Mining. Russell, the Director of Business Development APAC at O.C. Tanner, and Paul, Global Head of Talent and Capability and Acting Chief People and Culture Officer, Newcrest Mining, explore the need for effective communication and leadership, prioritising employee engagement, safety and wellbeing, the importance of empathy, practical support and symbolic gestures in creating a positive legacy during organisational change, including acknowledging the organisation’s history and recognising employees’ contributions. The pair also emphasise the need for senior leaders’ mindset and conviction in managing change, the importance of creating a unified leadership team and fostering a positive workplace culture, as well as share insights into Newcrest Mining’s acquisition by Newmont Corporation and how adoption of a people-centred approach was essential in better managing change and uncertainty.

Jul 10, 2024 • 21min
The recent ‘tidal wave’ of industrial relations reform
In the wake of voluminous change in the industrial relations space, it is critical to reflect on how such legislative updates will impact workplaces of all stripes and how both employers and employees can navigate such evolutions to working life. In this episode of The HR Leader podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with barrister Ian Neil SC about the “tumultuous” past year in industrial relations reform, the myriad changes that were legislated and are coming into effect, what the response from businesses and employers has been to such change, and whether the net effect of such changes will be to drive up the cost of labour. Neil also delves into how businesses can and should respond to the “tidal wave” of changes, why good governance has never been more essential, what the Closing Loopholes and Right to Disconnect legislation means and what its impacts might be, what might be the headline industrial relations issues to contend with in the future in light of such changes, why prudent employers will see the changes as an opportunity, what will constitute best practice moving forward, and the likely volume of work headed in the direction of legal practitioners and HR professionals.

Jul 3, 2024 • 23min
Why L&D can’t be ignored in the current climate
Learning and development (L&D) is an area that is increasingly seeing more investment from companies across the board. However, in challenging economic times, it can be easy for business decision-makers to push L&D to the side – despite trying times, this will be a mistake. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jack Campbell speaks with Women Rising founder and chief executive Megan Dalla-Camina about the increases being seen in learning and development initiatives, why it is so dangerous for companies to put L&D on the backburner, whether there are fiscally prudent options for L&D, the broader benefits that come from making proper investments, and how critical such training is for the next generation of professionals. Dalla-Camina also delves into the imperative for proper and effective training policies, the place for mentorship in L&D, the “dip” in mentorship opportunities for women in the workplace, how workers can seek out mentors in the current climate, developing women into next-generation leaders, how individuals can take matters into their own hands, and why much more work is needed to better support staff by way of L&D.

Jun 26, 2024 • 23min
Putting DEI at the forefront of decision making
Jasleen Kaur, Gartner HR Advisory senior principal, discusses the growing focus on DEI integration in businesses, benefits of embedding DEI into workforce planning, addressing talent shortages, challenges in promoting DEI, and the role of data analytics in driving diversity initiatives.

Jun 19, 2024 • 21min
What you’re getting wrong with payroll
Nothing pisses off employees more than issues with their pay cheques. Getting this right is absolutely essential for businesses – thankfully, there are practical ways to get on top of it. In this episode of The HR Leader podcast, host Jack Campbell is joined by Rippling vice president and head of Asia Matt Loop to discuss why businesses are getting payroll wrong on multiple fronts, the need to consolidate tech, the need for better workplace training, the Closing Loopholes legislation, and avoiding accidental payroll errors. Loop also delves into the consequences of making mistakes with payroll, being proactive rather than reactive in preventing issues, keeping up with prescribed changes, getting payroll right against the backdrop of the cost-of-living crisis, managing payroll in a global business, practical steps to take, and improving the wellbeing of your business.

Jun 12, 2024 • 25min
Ensuring managers evolve into successful leaders
When workers look back on their careers, they remember roles they held both for the good and bad managers they served under. If businesses take the time to properly develop those with managerial responsibilities, not only will those managers become better leaders, but the business will also see more substantive returns on investment. In this episode of The HR Leader, host Jack Campbell is joined by Florida-based “HR Lady”, Wendy Sellers, to discuss the importance of developing management internally rather than seeking external talent, how PD gets overlooked by businesses, the differences between a manager and a leader, the flow-on effects for businesses that invest in leadership, and the need for more holistic approaches to developing managers. Sellers also delves into how smaller businesses can meaningfully dedicate time and resources to such matters, how leaders can be HR-minded, managing the juggle of leadership training, staying up to date with relevant legislation, the ever-increasing need for good communication, and motivating employees suffering from burnout.