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Jun 5, 2025 • 31min

The ABM Cheat Code: ICP, Intent, and Iteration (with Christopher Collier from EHS Insight) | Ep. 175

Most ABM teams make one fatal mistake: they treat the strategy like it’s “set it and forget it.” But as Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby learns from Christopher Collier, Vice President of Marketing at EHS Insight, the reality is far more dynamic. ABM is not just about targeting accounts—it's about constant ICP refinement, aligning teams, iterating channel mix, and measuring what really matters.Christopher shares how his team does quarterly and even monthly reviews of ICP and CAC, why they only run outbound to accounts showing intent, and how they align content and channels to the buyer’s journey. Plus, they’ve built a culture where experimentation is safe, failure is learning, and RevOps is in the room for content strategy.If you want a real-world look at how to stand up and scale an ABM program without relying on guesswork or bloated tech stacks, this episode has the playbook.👤 Guest BioChristopher Collier is the Vice President of Marketing at EHS Insight, where he leads demand generation, operations, and digital strategy for their SaaS platform. With a strong background in private equity and B2B marketing, Christopher brings a data-driven, cross-functional approach to building revenue teams.Connect with him on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherleecollier📌 What We CoverHow EHS Insight refines ICP with quarterly reviews and biannual deep divesWhy aligning marketing, sales, product, and CS is essential for ICP accuracyWhat it looks like to run programs only to accounts showing real intentWhy they audit channel performance down to closed-won revenueHow RevOps led the mapping of content to the buyer journeyThe importance of ungated content—and what gets tracked insteadHow video is becoming a key sales enablement priorityWhy culture and leadership alignment make or break your ABM programHow they measure influence vs. source using Enrich + HubSpotBuilding psychological safety to support risk-taking and learning from failure🔗 Resources MentionedScrappy ABMConnect with Mason CosbyConnect with Christopher CollierEHS InsightEnrichRadical Candor by Kim ScottCrucial Conversations by Patterson, Grenny, McMillan, and SwitzlerUpnotch (mentorship platform)Resources:Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM.If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don’t forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!
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Jun 2, 2025 • 28min

Why Most ABM Fails (And What to Do Instead) | Ep. 174

Can you really run an effective ABM program without a six-figure budget? In this special re-release on Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby joins The Content Cocktail Hour to debunk the most common myths about account-based marketing—and share how Scrappy ABM generated $3 million in revenue using little more than a podcast, LinkedIn, and clear strategy.In conversation with Jonathan Gandolf, Mason breaks down what separates “good marketing” from true ABM, the real reasons most programs fail, and why success has less to do with tooling and more to do with internal alignment. They also explore why marketing should start with finance when defining best-fit accounts, how to use content to support outbound, and what it means to sell ethically in B2B.If your company is over-indexing on tools and underestimating alignment, this is the episode to reset your approach.👤 Guest BioJonathan Gandolf is the host of The Content Cocktail Hour. This conversation features his interview with Mason Cosby, founder of Scrappy ABM and creator of ABM strategies that work without the overhead. You can connect with Jonathan at linkedin.com/in/jonathan-gandolf.📌 What We CoverThe reason gifting isn’t a full ABM strategy (and what is)How Scrappy ABM generated $3M in 18 months with a $70/month tech stackFive factors that determine if your company is ready for ABMWhy marketers should partner with finance first, not lastHow to identify best-fit customers using profitability and product usageWhat a “content-led outbound” ABM motion actually looks likeThe role of helpful, problem-focused content in modern B2BWhy “don’t ask for the meeting” is Mason’s most unpopular opinion🔗 Resources MentionedScrappy ABMConnect with Mason CosbyConnect with Jonathan GandolfAudiencePlusResources:Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM.If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don’t forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!
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May 29, 2025 • 26min

Why Your LinkedIn Outreach Isn’t Getting Responses—and What to Do Instead (with Morgan J Ingram from AMP Creative) | Ep. 173

Morgan J Ingram, Founder and CEO of AMP Creative, shares his expertise on transforming LinkedIn into a powerful sales tool. He reveals why traditional outreach methods often fail, advocating for blank connection requests over personalized ones. Morgan introduces his five-part framework for social selling, emphasizing clarity, engagement, and strategic commenting. He also discusses the importance of thoughtful interactions and quality content to connect with potential buyers. Get ready to revolutionize your outreach strategies and improve response rates!
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May 26, 2025 • 37min

Crawl, Walk, Run: Building an Account-Based Measurement Model That Works | Ep. 172

Most teams are running account-based marketing without a clue how to measure it. In this special crossover episode of Scrappy ABM, we feature Mason Cosby's guest appearance on Digital Banter, where he joins Andy Groller and James Kravic to get brutally honest about ABM measurement mayhem.Mason, founder of Scrappy ABM, breaks down why jumping into measurement without a working program is a recipe for confusion, not results. He introduces a crawl-walk-run approach to measurement using a simple account progression model: from awareness through to opportunity. He also gets tactical on what tools you actually need to track success — and no, a $100K tech stack isn’t one of them.If your ABM goals are misaligned with your buyer’s journey or you’re still reporting on MQLs when you should be focused on MQAs, this episode gives you the straight answers you’ve been looking for.👤 Guest BioMason Cosby is the founder of Scrappy ABM, a firm focused on helping B2B teams do more with less when it comes to account-based marketing. He’s been in the ABM trenches for over five years, starting as a marketing director at a FinTech company and later working in ABM agency environments. You can find him on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/masoncosby.📌 What We CoverWhy most ABM programs fail at measurement before they even beginThe six-stage account progression model: from awareness to closed revenueWhy display ads to cold accounts won’t book meetings (and what to do instead)Common sense ways to measure ABM with spreadsheets and ad platformsThe crawl-walk-run framework for measurement maturityThe difference between MQAs and MQLs — and why it mattersWhy one-to-one measurement at the awareness stage is usually a wasteThe tech you need (and don’t need) to start measuring ABM effectivelyHow to build reporting dashboards for marketing, sales, and executivesWhy Mason insists on admin-level CRM access in every client engagement🔗 Resources MentionedG2 (for intent signals and review data)HubSpot, Salesforce, ActiveCampaign (marketing automation & CRM)ZoomInfo, LinkedIn Sales Navigator (list-based triggers)6sense, Warmly, R-B2B (anonymous website visitor tracking)Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn: Start a conversation about ABM.If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don’t forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!
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May 22, 2025 • 37min

Ep. 171 - How a Small Team Generated $3.5M in Pipeline in 2 Quarters

In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby sits down with David Chase, CMO of Workboard, who shares how he stood up an entire demand generation program from scratch—two and a half years into his tenure.👤 Guest BioDavid Chase is the Chief Marketing Officer at Workboard, where he rose through the ranks from Director of Product Marketing to CMO in just four years. He’s passionate about building effective, scalable demand generation programs grounded in customer insight and strategic execution.Connect with David on LinkedIn📌 What We CoverWhy the demand gen rebuild happened 2.5 years into David's time at WorkboardThe lean org structure: domain experts, a single growth hire, and three BDRsHow they aligned the BDR role with senior enterprise buyersReassessing the ICP with "years in business" as a key maturity signalUsing customer quotes and references as the foundation of all messagingWhy horizontal peer influence matters more than industry in 2025Leveraging the Accelerate event as a pipeline driver, content generator, and customer community builderThe simple but effective channel xmix: email, LinkedIn, paid media, webinars, and cold callsBuilding a daily measurement model tied to pipeline goals and BDR activityHow the team generated 3.5x pipeline growth over two quartersCommon challenges in aligning messaging across C-suite, middle managers, and process owners🔗 Resources MentionedWorkboard Website: workboard.comScrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM.If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!
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May 19, 2025 • 54min

Ep. 170 - Lost on Where to Start with ABM?

In this episode of Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby shares a special session pulled from a recent webinar. It’s a hands-on, highly tactical walkthrough of how to launch a closed lost ABM program—with real playbooks, tested frameworks, and a focus on what’s actually changed since the opportunity was marked “closed lost.”Mason lays out why these lost opportunities are your highest-potential revenue channel: you’ve already spent money to acquire them, you’ve built real relationships, and your sales team wanted to win them. Now it’s time to resurrect that pipeline—fast and scrappy. Using the 4D framework (Data, Distribution, Destination, Direction), this episode gives you everything you need to plan and launch your program next week.Whether you're dealing with pricing objections, missing personas, or lost champions, this episode gives you structured, no-fluff ways to reignite deals that were nearly closed. Don’t let them stay dead.📌 What We CoverWhy 60–80% of closed lost opportunities are still re-engageableThe four most effective closed lost ABM playbooks: vertical-based, objection-based, persona-based, and champion-trackingWhy “information without implementation is useless” and how to act within 90 daysWhat most teams get wrong when they skip closed lost dealsThe one question Mason always asks: what’s actually changed?The exact outreach channels, landing pages, and CTAs to use based on deal historyReal examples of how pricing changes, product updates, or even industry shifts trigger win-back conversationsHow to partner with sales to pull CRM data and overcome past objections with trust-building content🔗 Resources MentionedScrappyABM.com/plan – Free campaign planning templateScrappyABM.com/newsletter – Weekly ABM playbooksUserGems – Referenced in the champion tracking playbookResources:Scrappy ABM: Visit for more ABM tips and strategies.Connect with Mason on LinkedIn for a conversation about ABM.If you enjoyed today's episode and found valuable insights for your business, be sure to subscribe to the Scrappy ABM podcast for more expert discussions. Don't forget to leave a review and share this episode with your team or fellow marketers!
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May 15, 2025 • 17min

Ep. 169 - Interactive Demos: The Secret Weapon for Personalized ABM Success

In this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby chats with Catie Ivey, CRO of Walnut, about how interactive product demos can supercharge account-based marketing by delivering hyper-personalized, use-case-driven experiences that actually convert.Best Moments:(01:31) What interactive demos are—and why they matter in ABM(03:37) Going beyond generic walkthroughs to build tailored demo flows(06:01) Case study: boosting PLG conversion with demo customization(08:26) How to personalize even when you don’t have access to a customer’s product(11:27) Why AI alone isn’t enough—industry-specific context is key(13:34) Avoiding common demo mistakes: keep it simple, keep it relevant(15:15) The 12-click rule for building demos that people actually finishGuest BioCatie Ivey is the Chief Revenue Officer at Walnut, a platform that helps companies build interactive product demos that resonate. A leader in revenue operations and GTM strategy, Catie champions a “product-led everything” mindset—bringing the product experience into every stage of the buyer’s journey to fuel engagement, conversion, and long-term adoption.
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May 12, 2025 • 10min

Ep. 168 - From Awareness to Action: Fixing the Missing Middle in Your ABM Funnel

The host dissects an ABM strategy tailored for banks and health insurers, revealing key insights into ideal customer profiles. Attention turns to optimizing brand resilience tracking within the marketing funnel. Tactics like effective retargeting ads and industry-specific landing pages are highlighted as ways to boost conversions. Ungating demo content is suggested to speed up the pipeline, and a new 'meaningful engagement' stage is introduced. The discussion wraps up with a focus on refining messaging to better address customer pain points.
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May 8, 2025 • 24min

Ep. 167 - The Art of Creating Serendipity, With Justin Schmidt From JobSync

In this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby interviews Justin Schmidt, VP of Marketing at JobSync, about how small teams can run impactful ABM programs without costly martech stacks—by leaning into relationships, resourcefulness, and a deep understanding of their best-fit customers.Best Moments:(00:10) Why scrappy ABM matters more than ever in today’s economic climate(03:02) “You can't say we spent a dollar to generate 75¢ in pipeline”(03:35) How to identify your ABM audience by analyzing your top customers(05:34) Winning internal buy-in by showing alignment with what already works(08:35) Why traditional digital ABM often falls short for smaller companies(10:12) Using LinkedIn mutuals to spark warm intros to target accounts(12:46) Tools like Bardeen that make connection-scraping fast and scrappy(16:47) Tapping into professional communities to generate ABM opportunities(18:45) Creating “moments of serendipity” as your core ABM strategy(19:43) Boeing’s hockey-team sponsorship: the ultimate ABM play?Guest BioJustin Schmidt is the VP of Marketing at JobSync, a company focused on hiring operations. With deep experience leading marketing at early-stage, niche-market companies, Justin has built a reputation for designing resource-conscious ABM strategies that prioritize real relationships over expensive tools. He’s a champion of leveraging communities and mutual connections to drive pipeline in a practical, authentic way.
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May 5, 2025 • 10min

Ep. 166 - ORTHO-ABM Playbook! Tactics to Land 10 Meetings/Month with 24/7 Chat for Practices 💬

In this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby dissects newsletter reader Joe’s challenge: selling a 24/7 chat-service product to growth-minded operators at independent orthopedic practices—on a scrappy budget. Mason lays out a step-by-step ABM playbook, from pinpointing buying triggers to launching a niche podcast that doubles as a pipeline engine.Best Moments:(00:32) Introduction to Joe’s ABM hurdle—independent orthopedic practices(01:35) Setting realistic conversion expectations & timeframes(02:08) Budget-cycle insights and buying trends in indie practices(03:03) Identifying the trigger point when practices need 24/7 chat(03:58) Finding prospects in associations and private communities(04:09) Geomapping accounts for hyper-targeted ads(04:38) Content strategy: demos, testimonials & proof points(05:37) Why launching a podcast for practice owners is a game-changer(06:39) How the podcast can reliably book 10 meetings per month(07:16) Soft-selling at the close of each podcast interview

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