I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

Bailey Kowalczyk is a trail runner. I learned a lot in this episode, I love talking to trail runners! She recently signed a contract with Nike running with their trail team. She burst onto the trail scene in 2020 and she had some really great FKTs (fastest known time). Most recently, she had a really great race at the Golden Trail Series which is a stage race were she placed fifth overall. In this epsidoe, we go back to her day srunning at Clemson University. Bailey had some significant troubles at Clemson, she was medically released due to disordered eating. She moved to Boulder, Colorado after that and discovered trail running. In this episode, we talk about some of Bailey’s hardships and about how she is passionate about running as your strongest, healthiest self.  What we talked about: 4:00- Signing a new sponsorship deal with Nike 4:20- The culture of trail running 6:35- Making an impact on the sport of running 9:15- Bailey’s story with running and disordered eating 24:25- The Golden Trail Series 27:05- A glimpse into her mindset while doing hard things 31:10- Glamorizing certain distances in running 34:10- Her journey into the trail scene from being a middle distance runner 38:05- What her training looks like 42:30- Being coached by David Roche and her spring racing schedule 45:10- How her child impacted the athlete that she is today 51:05- End of podcast questions Show notes: Bailey on Instagram Bailey’s Website Author suggestions: Liane Moriarty and Elin Hilderbrand Me Before You After You Good for a Girl Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Lagoon Use code “Lindsey” for 15% off Athletic Greens Go to AthleticGreens.com/Lindsey for a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase

Today’s episode in this coaching series is with Ryan Hall! Ryan is one of the greatest American distance runners of all time! Ryan Hall is a two-time Olympian for the United States in the 2008 and 2012 Marathon. He is the fastest American to ever run the marathon (2:04:58) and half marathon (59:43) distances. Ryan retired from professional running in January of 2016 and is now one of the founders of Run Free Training. In this episode, Ryan talks about some techniques and ways to stay in the game mentally when it feels daunting and hard. We also get to hear about his coaching and his training groups. I loved digging into Ryan’s mentality and learning about how he coaches his athletes. I always walk away from conversations with Ryan inspired to work hard and to have a healthy mindset. Thank you to V.O2 for sponsoring this series of the podcast! Go to VDotO2.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com. What we talked about: 5:00- Coaching Ben Blankenship to the marathon 12:10- His mindset in running and lifting 17:35- Run Free Training 23:15- Sara’s training heading into Boston 29:50- Structuring training and racing ahead of the Olympic Trials marathon 30:30- Thoughts on the Olympic Trials 32:35- His daughter signing with NC State 37:00- Parenting and helping his kids manage their expectations athletically 40:15- Effort based training 42:40- The culture at Run Free 44:10- Goals in 2023 48:10- Advice to anyone going through struggles with their training cycles 54:40- End of podcast questions Show notes: The Boys in the Boat Emmanuel Acho on Work Life with Adam Grant podcast Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: V.O2 Use code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com

Joan Benoit Samuelson is an icon in our sport! Joan is the gold medalist from the first women’s Olympic marathon in 1984. She held the American record for 28 years in the marathon, 2:21:21, which she ran in Chicago. She won the Boston Marathon in 1979 while a college student and she won it again in 1983. She is the founder of the Beach to Beacon race. She is one of the founders of the Donna Marathon which is how we met each other! The Donna Marathon supports families walking through a breast cancer diagnosis through the Donna Foundation and it supports ground breaking research. What we talked about: 4:55- Joan’s involvement with the Donna Foundation 6:30- Beach to Beacon 9:10- Her involvement in the running community 11:05- Winning the Boston Marathon and seeing a change in women’s running 16:05- Her passion for running 19:35- Running with her daughter 20:35- Shifting out of her professional running career 22:45- The current state of women’s running 27:55- Her impact on the sport 29:45- What matters most to her in life 33:00- Not allowing pressure to steal your joy Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Goodr Use code “another” for free shipping Donna Marathon Use code “Lindsey10” to save 10% off their races

I am so excited to bring you this 6 part coaching series on I’ll Have Another! I have had conversations with 6 different coaches in the running world and we are learning about their coaching philosophies and strategies and what their programs look like. This first episode is with Jon Green who is Molly Seidel’s coach, who won the Olympic Bronze medal in the marathon under his coaching. He recently formed the Verde Track Club out in Flagstaff. He coaches both professional and everyday runners. Jon was also back on the show on episode 243 with Molly in April of 2020 after she made the Olympic team! Thank you to V.O2 for sponsoring this series of the podcast! Go to VDotO2.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com. What we talked about: 3:30- Introduction to Jon and his coaching 6:30- Molly winning the Bronze medal at the Olympics 11:25- Jon working with Stephen Haas 13:25- The business side of The Verde Track Club 16:00- Checking in on the athlete versus just looking at results 20:35- Tapering for the marathon and structuring a training plan for the marathon 24:50- Learning to listen to your body 29:05- How to choose which marathon to run 38:45- Finding an identity outside of coaching 44:30- Looking ahead at his running career 48:00- Getting into coaching 58:00- Jessa Hanson and recruiting her to the team 1:01:05- End of podcast questions Show notes: Verde Track Club on Instagram Jon on Instagram Verde Track Club Website Jon on Episode 243 of the I’ll Have Another Podcast Eat a Peach Kitchen Confidential Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: V.O2 Use code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com

Vicki Hunter is a runner and author. She has a book out called Running and Returning: Seeking Balance in an Imperfect World. She was a competitive runner in her late 20s when she qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon in 1988. She went from a 3:50 to a 2:49 marathon in just 16 months. She was also in a horrific car accident while she was pregnant with her first child. She was in the hospital for 6 weeks and was in rehab her entire pregnancy. We talk a lot about that experience and how it changed her life. She ended up having a healthy baby girl on her due date. This conversation is a story about Vicki’s relationship with running and how it has changed over the years but how it has always been something that is really important to her. She also recently ran a 3:28 marathon at the age of 62 so we talk about aging in this conversation as well! What we talked about: 6:55- The book that she wrote, Running and Returning 21:05- The car accident that Vicki was in 29:25- Vicki’s running career 38:50- Her recovery after her car accident 55:05- Where she finds joy 57:50- How she handles aging 1:01:45- Moving to Hawaii 1:05:00- End of podcast questions Show notes: Vicki’s website Vicki’s book Vicki on Instagram Black Cake Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Athletic Greens Go to AthleticGreens.com/Lindsey for FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase. Previnex Use the code “another” for 15% off

Sara Vaughn is back on the show for the fifth time! Sara is a 1500m runner turned marathoner. She is the mom of four and a full time realtor. She ran her third marathon this past fall at the Chicago Marathon where she placed 7th in a time of 2:26:23. She recently announced that she will be running the Boston Marathon this Spring. Sara just launched the Vaughn Childcare Fund to provide support for parenting undergraduate student-athletes. One of the big parts of Sara’s story is that she had her first baby while she was a junior in college as a student-athlete and she did not have a lot of resources herself so she has made it her mission to help provide people in similar situations with resources. As the NCAA slowly adapts to include parents in their mission of education, inclusiveness, and well-being, they are still a highly underserved population. So Sara’s new project is going to help to fill that gap with financial support for childcare, mentorship, policy writing, and policy adoption. What we talked about: 4:20- Catching up with Sara 8:45- Running an indoor track race with her daughter 11:15- Her experience being pregnant as a student athlete 16:50- What her support system looked like  22:15- Vaughn Childcare Fund 27:30- Being pregnant in college 30:50- How we can help with this new endeavor 37:05- Mentorship 40:30- Advice for anyone pregnant in college 44:30- Running the Boston Marathon 52:00- PUMA Show notes: Sara on Instagram Vaughn Childcare Fund on Instagram Vaughn Childcare Fund Website Sara on Episode 283 Sara on Episode 302 Sara on Episode 349 Sara on Episode 416 Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Lagoon Use code “Lindsey” for 15% off Previnex Use the code “another” for 15% off

Lucy Bartholomew is an ultra runner and is now an Ironman. She completed her first Ironman last year, placing fourth and qualifying for the Kona World Championships so she will be doing that this year! Lucy broke onto the Ultra scene in 2017. She placed third at Western States in 2018. She ran her first ultra at age 14, which is a really fun story that she shares about in this episode. Lucy is supported by Salomon. Lucy has won a ton of prestigious races including Ultra Trail Cape Town, Ultra Trail Australia by UTMB, Devil’s Ridge Ultra, North Burn 100, and the list goes on! We talk a lot about not being so focused on the results and focusing on process goals instead. What we talked about: 4:30- Catching up about Lucy’s travels 10:15- Running her first 100k 13:30- Her dad’s running career 18:40- Her decision to not drink 20:35- Accepting yourself for what you can do on the day 28:20- Her 150 miler 30:10- Recapping her races at Western States 52:05- Her Ironman 1:05:30- End of podcast questions Show notes: Lucy on Instagram The Slummer Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Lagoon Use code “Lindsey” for 15% off Athletic Greens Go to AthleticGreens.com/Lindsey for a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase

Laura Thweatt is back on the show! She was first on this podcast back in May of 2020 on episode 247. Laura just announced that she is running the Boston Marathon. She is a 2:25 marathoner. She placed 5th at the Olympic Trials in Atlanta. This past fall, she had a disappointing race at the Chicago Marathon and she shares all about that in this episode. Laura has really changed her outlook on what 2023 is going to look like for her life, racing and training. She has a great mindset and you’ll hear all about it! She is also running the USA Cross Country Championships in Richmond, Virginia this weekend! Laura lives in Boulder, Colorado and she trains with the Boulder Harriers and is coached by Steve Jones. What we talked about: 3:20- Running Boston 13:45- Finding confidence in running again 19:45- Her race at the Chicago Marathon 29:10- Running US Cross Country Championships 32:00- Social media 48:45- Training with the Boulder Harriers and being coached by Steve Jones 56:30- Taking the pressure off of her running 1:06:30- Wrap-up Show notes: Laura on Instagram Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Previnex Use the code “another” for 15% off Donna Marathon Use the code “Lindsey10” for 10% off your registration Goodr Use code “another15” for 15% off your order

Lauren Fleshman’s new book, Good for a Girl, is out now! Lauren has had a big career in so many different areas – running, entrepreneurship, coaching, etc. In her book, Lauren goes through all of that! Lauren ran for Stanford where she was a 5-time NCAA Champion and 15-time All-American. Lauren went on to run professionally for Nike where she won 2 USA Championships and was on 5 World Championship teams. Lauren’s career had a lot of ups and downs and we chatted about that in this episode! Lauren is an entrepreneur through and through. She is the founder of Picky Bars, hosts running retreats, and is the coauthor of the popular Believe Training Journal. Photo credit: Cortney White & Oiselle What we talked about: 4:00- Chatting about Lauren’s book 10:00- What needs to change in women’s sports 17:15- Parenting 20:25- Writing about her dad’s alcoholism in the book 22:00- Her own relationship with alcohol 28:10- Mental health 34:00- Coaching 37:20- Writing 46:50- Parenting 50:35- What’s next for Lauren 53:35- How her career sits with her now that she is retired 58:10- Speaking up in her career 59:20- Where she sees herself going after this book 1:03:00- How Oiselle changed her life 1:06:30- How she spectates the sport now 1:07:40- End of podcast questions Show notes: Lauren on Instagram Good for a Girl Lauren’s Website Running While Black Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Lagoon Use code “Lindsey” for 15% off Donna Marathon Use the code “Lindsey10” for 10% off your registration Athletic Greens Go to AthleticGreens.com/Lindsey for a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase

Elly Henes is a professional runner for Adidas. She lives in Flagstaff and is coached by Mike Smith. Elly ran for NC State where she was an NCAA champion in the 5k. She won that title in 2021. This was exactly 30 years after her mom became NCAA Champion in 5k at NC State as well. She was coached by her mom at NC State. She is a 10 time All-American and 6 time ACC Champion. She placed 6th at the 2020 Olympic Trials coming right off of her NCAA title! Elly has a PR of 14:52 in the 5k which she ran in Berlin last year. Last week, we released a re-run episode with Elly’s mom, Coach Laurie Henes, who is the cross country head coach at NC State. They just won their second national title in cross country at NC State. What we talked about: 5:35- Growing up in Raleigh and then going to NC State 11:35- Being coached by Mike Smith 13:05- Her collegiate running career 15:35- Winning the NCAA title in the 5k 30 years after her mom did 19:00- Her mental health in and out of the sport 41:40- Elly’s training partners and choosing to be coached by Mike Smith 49:35- Placing 6th at the Olympic Trials 51:20- Managing expectations as a professional runner 56:00- Breaking 15 minutes in the 5k 58:15- End of podcast questions Show notes: Elly on Instagram Fire & Blood Maybe You Should Talk to Someone Connect with Lindsey:  Lindsey on Instagram Lindsey on Twitter Lindsey on Facebook  Join the I’ll Have Another Facebook Group Support the I’ll Have Another Podcast on Patreon Follow SandyBoy Productions: Sandyboy Productions on Twitter Sandyboy Productions on Instagram SandyBoy Productions Shows:  Why is Everyone Yelling? The Up and Running Podcast The Illuminate Podcast The Herban Farmacy Podcast The Ready to Run Podcast Sponsors: Green Growers Farm Elderberry Syrup Use the code “Sandyboy” for free shipping Previnex Use the code “another” for 15% off Donna Marathon Use the code “Lindsey10” for 10% off your registration