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Jun 13, 2025 • 47min
Episode 620: Allie Wilson – Olympian 800m Runner Breaks the News About Her New Coach!
Hey friends! I am so excited to welcome Allie Wilson to the show. She’s someone I’ve wanted to have on for a long time, and I just knew this conversation would be a great one — and it totally delivered.
Allie is an 800m specialist and became an Olympian last year when she placed second at the U.S. Olympic Trials and competed in Paris in the 800. She’s also represented Team USA at the World Indoor Championships and is the 2024 U.S. Indoor Champion in the 800. Her resume is seriously impressive, but beyond all that, she’s just a joy to talk to.
In this episode, we talk about her journey to the Olympics, the transition she made from soccer to track, her time training with the Atlanta Track Club under Amy and Andrew Begley, and the coaching change she’s making now — which she shares here! Allie has recently moved back to New Jersey and is taking a new approach with her training, and I can’t wait to see what this next chapter brings.
She also shares a bit about racing the 1500 more in the future, her mindset in training and competition, and how she’s grown through the ups and downs of elite running.
I absolutely loved this conversation and think you will too.
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What we talked about:
4:55- Catching up with Allie
6:40- Her history with playing soccer
12:10- The decision to run pro with the Atlanta Track Club
15:10- Being an 800m runner
21:30- Making her first Olympic team
36:30- What Allie’s training looks like
38:00- Allie’s new coach!!
40:00- The trajectory of her season
55:45- Working with a mental performance coach
1:05:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo
Love on the Spectrum
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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 18min
Episode 619: Behind the Mic with The PR Project
Hey friends! This episode of the Behind the Mic series is such a fun one. I got to sit down with my friends Tommie, Aaron, Gary from the PR Project — a running-focused media crew that’s all about amplifying culture, community, and conversation in the run space.
You may know Tommie from the Relay podcast, which I also co-host, and I’ve really enjoyed getting to know him over the years. He brings such a creative energy to everything he does, and this whole PR Project is a great example of that. Two years ago, Tommie pitched the idea of bringing the PR Project to The Running Event (TRE) to do live interviews with athletes and brands — and it’s been growing ever since.
Tommie and Gary are both sub-3 marathoners, and Aaron is chasing down that same goal, so you know there’s plenty of passion and drive here. But beyond the stats, this is just a super casual conversation among friends — a look behind the scenes at what they’re building, how they approach content creation in the running space, and what it’s like to grow something from the ground up.
Right now, they’re gearing up for their Summer of Speed series, which is sponsored by Puma, and I’m so excited to see what they do with it.
Hope you enjoy listening in on this one! If you liked the episode, let the guys know (social media linked below). And if you’re enjoying the Behind the Mic series, consider supporting the show on Patreon — even $1 or $3 a month makes a big difference.
Thanks for being here!
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@AaronXWorldwide
@GaryIsARunner
What we talked about:
5:00- The history of the PR Project
12:00- What we need to know about Detroit
25:00- Sports chat
37:15- Running hot takes
46:30- Handling hate on the internet
49:30- Goals for the PR Project
55:00- Their careers outside of running
1:06:30- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
The Power of the Subconscious Mind
26 Marathons
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Jun 6, 2025 • 57min
Episode 618: Olin Hacker: USATF 5K Champion, 5th at World Indoors, and NAZ Elite Pro
On this week’s episode of I’ll Have Another, I’m joined by Olin Hacker! Olin just won the USATF 5K Championships in Indianapolis—such an exciting race to witness, and I was lucky enough to be on the mic announcing it. He’s got an impressive range of PRs: 13:08 in the 5K, 3:36 in the 1500, and a 3:56 mile. He runs professionally for HOKA NAZ Elite out in Flagstaff.
We talk about what that win in Indy meant to him, how he’s navigating his professional career, and what it’s like training with a team like NAZ Elite. Olin also shares stories from his time at Wisconsin, where he followed in the footsteps of his dad—also a national champion. And yes, every sibling in his family ran in college, so we had to talk about that running gene, too.
We get into the mental side of racing, his experience at World Indoors where he finished 5th in the 3K, and what he’s working toward next.
What we talked about:
5:15- Winning his first national title on the roads
10:00- His family’s running legacy
16:00- His decision to join NAZ elite
20:20- How his parents cultivated a success mindset
32:00- Olin’s season so far
36:45- Championship races and strategy
44:20- Being coached by Jack Mullaney
49:00- End of podcast questions
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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 8min
Episode 617: Behind the Mic with Jason Fitzgerald
Hey friends! We’re back with another episode of the Behind the Mic series, and I’m so excited to bring you this conversation with Jason Fitzgerald. Jason is the founder of Strength Running and the host of the Strength Running Podcast—one of the longest-running and most respected running podcasts out there.
Jason has helped so many runners of all levels chase down big goals, and one of his biggest focuses is helping people become well-rounded, injury-resistant athletes through strength training and smart programming. He also offers mental training courses and resources that go beyond the physical side of the sport.
We talk about his journey into podcasting and coaching, what it’s like to be a content creator in the running world, and the values that guide the way he shows up for his audience. He shares about his background as a 2:39 marathoner, some of his favorite interviews, and yes—we get into his “Jesus Take the Wheel 5K” strategy, which had me cracking up.
Before we recorded this episode, I actually listened to his most recent episode on The Strength Running Podcast all about creatine, featuring Brady Holmer. If you’ve been curious about creatine—what it does, how to take it, whether it’s worth the hype—I can’t recommend that episode enough. It’s super informative but also really easy to understand, and I even found myself rewinding to catch all the nuggets. Highly recommend checking that one out after this episode!
Jason is smart, thoughtful, and has a really genuine presence in this space. I loved this conversation and I think you will too.
And as always, if you’re loving the show, leaving a quick rating or review goes a long way—or you can support us on Patreon for as little as $3 a month at patreon.com/lindseyhein and you’ll get all of the episodes AD FREE!
Thanks so much for being here! Enjoy my conversation with Jason Fitzgerald.
What we talked about:
7:45- Jason’s history in running and podcasting
18:05- Injury prevention and rehab
32:00- Translatting marathon training to 5k fitness
40:20- The mental side of training
58:00- How his own running training has changed over the years
1:03:30- What Jason still wants to learn in the sport
1:14:20- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Book recommendations:
Range by David Epstein
The Wolf of Walstreet
Strong Men
Sapien
The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists
Why We Run
The 4-Hour Workweek
Tools of Titans
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May 30, 2025 • 45min
Episode 616: Live at Bayshore with Dakotah Lindwurm Popehn
Dakotah Lindwurm is one of the most beloved runners of our time. It’s been so incredible to watch her grow in her career over the last several years. Seeing her make her first Olympic team in 2024 was something we all celebrated.
Dakotah placed 12th at the Olympics in Paris in the marathon and continues to compete with as much enthusiasm as she did all those years ago when she bet on herself and gave being a professional runner a shot. Her journey to becoming an Olympian is a bit unconventional. She ran at a DII school, wasn’t recruited to run pro but applied for a grant and started training hard.
She placed 36th at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials – making quite the jump in 2024 to 3rd. Over the years she’s won the Grandma’s Marathon twice and has a marathon PR of 2:24:40 which she ran at the 2023 Chicago Marathon. So much to celebrate and so much to look forward to!
Thank you to the Bayshore Marathon and The Traverse City Track Club for having both Dakotah and I out for this event! It was so special to be a part of it for the second year!
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May 23, 2025 • 1h 25min
Episode 615: Allie Buchalski on Trusting the Process, Sports Psychology, and Running with the Brooks Beasts
Hey friends! I’m so excited to share this conversation with Allie Buchalski with you. Allie runs professionally for the Brooks Beasts, focusing on the 5,000 meters, and she’s someone I’ve wanted to have on the show for a long time. She’s incredibly down-to-earth, has a great sense of humor, and brings a thoughtful perspective to racing and training.
Allie ran for Furman University, where she finished second at the 2018 NCAA Outdoor Championships in the 5K. Right out of college, she signed with Brooks, and she just re-signed with them, continuing her training under coach Danny Mackey in Seattle. She recently placed fifth—just milliseconds out of fourth—at the USATF 5K Road Championships in Indianapolis, and we recorded this episode shortly after that race. Our conversation ended up being even more reflective and grounded than what we originally planned to chat about in person.
We talk about how working with a sports psychologist has shifted her mindset in racing and how that’s changed her career trajectory. Allie opens up about her love for basketball, growing up in Georgia, and the unique way she approaches racing with both intensity and joy. She also shares a bit about her goals for this season and what it means to her to represent Brooks and compete at a high level.
This was one of the easiest and most natural interviews I’ve ever recorded, and I can’t wait for you to hear it!
Thanks for being here, and if you enjoy the episode, please consider leaving a rating and review or joining us over on Patreon to support the show. Happy listening!
What we talked about:
5:00- Her race in Indianapolis at the US 5k Champs
14:00- Her mom’s diagnosis with cancer
21:10- What’s next on Allie’s racing calendar
22:05- Growing up and finding her passion and drive in sports
27:45- Running for Furman University
35:00- The decision to sign with Brooks Beasts
50:00- Focus on nutrition
57:40- Looking ahead to USAs
1:05:00- Working with a sports psychologist
1:11:00- Celebrating the small wins
1:13:00- Hobbies outside of running
1:18:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
The Book of Thorns
Heart of a Husky
Running For My Life
Think Like a Champion
Connect with Lindsey:
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May 21, 2025 • 1h 2min
Episode 614: Behind the Mic with Matt Chittim of the Rambling Runner
Today on the show, I’m talking with my good friend, Matt Chittim. Matt is the host of the Rambling Runner Podcast—a longtime favorite where he highlights amateur athletes and occasionally brings pros on as well. You might also know him from his Road to the Trials series, which was hugely popular and so fun to follow.
Matt and I have really grown up in the podcasting space together, and he’s truly one of my biggest cheerleaders. But honestly? He’s that person for so many in this space—he supports and uplifts others in such a genuine way, and it’s just who he is.
He’s also the brains behind Relay, the podcast I co-host with an incredible group of people in the running world. Matt dreamed it up, pitched us all on the idea, and brought it to life with so much heart. I’m proud to be part of it and grateful that he brought me along for the ride.
Outside of podcasting, Matt is a dad of two, a former college fundraiser, and a true sports enthusiast—not just running, but across the board. I always love our conversations about other sports, too.
In this episode, we get into all of that—his path into podcasting, building a community, what drives him, and what he’s dreaming up next.
I hope you enjoy it—and if you do, it would mean a lot if you left a quick rating and review. And of course, be sure to check out Matt’s show, The Rambling Runner, and follow him over on Instagram at @rambling_runner.
All right, let’s get to it. Please enjoy my conversation with Matt Chittim.
What we talked about:
4:50- Catching us up on his podcasting as of late
14:10- Creating content and new ideas
22:30- Relay Podcast
26:00- The Rambling Runner
28:00- Swinging big and launching new projects
39:00- Balancing our own athletic endeavors amidst creating content in a running space
47:20- Reflecting on Matt’s career in sports outside of podcasting
53:00- Matt’s life outside of his career
58:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
The Creative Act
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Undeniable by Cameron Haynes
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May 16, 2025 • 41min
Episode 613: Serena Burla – Wins Big Sur post retirement; 2:26 marathoner, cancer survivor & Mom of 3.
Hey friends! I’m so excited to share this conversation with Serena Burla. I recently had the opportunity to emcee the Big Sur International Marathon, and as I was checking out the leaderboard, I saw Serena’s name—and I thought, wait, I know that name! Serena is a retired professional runner, and sure enough, she was out there racing—and won the marathon in 2:49.
A couple weeks later, we sat down to chat all about that experience and what it’s like to race a marathon post-retirement. Serena is a 2:26 marathoner who’s represented Team USA multiple times, including at the 2017 World Championships in London. She’s also a two-time cancer survivor. In 2010, she was diagnosed with a rare sarcoma in her leg. She came back from that diagnosis to run some of her fastest races ever—and then faced a recurrence of the same cancer in 2017. Through it all, she’s continued to show up with strength, optimism, and perspective.
In this episode, we talk about her incredible career, her mindset through some of the hardest moments, and what life looks like now as a mom of three. Serena isn’t on social media, so if you’ve followed her running journey in the past, I think you’ll really love this update. She has such a beautiful spirit and I walked away from this conversation feeling really inspired.
Big thanks to the Big Sur International Marathon for connecting us—if you haven’t checked out that race yet, add it to your list!
What we talked about:
4:00- Catching up with Serena and her recent race at the Big Sur Marathon
7:00- Reflecting on Boston 2018
9:10- Her win at Big Sur
17:00- Her family
23:20- Her cancer diagnosis and battle with cancer
38:00- Her faith throughout this process
39:00- Deciding to grow her family after her cancer treatments and after her marathon career
43:10- Training leading into Big Sur
54:10- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
The Rose Code
Hotel Flamingo
Connect with Lindsey:
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Lindsey on Twitter
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May 14, 2025 • 58min
Episode 612: Behind the Mic: Sarah Bowen Shea of Another Mother Runner
Welcome to another episode of the Behind the Mic series brought to you by Boulderthon!
This week we welcome Sarah Bowen Shea of Another Mother Runner to the podcast. Sarah is truly an OG in this space and has been creating community for 15 years with Mother Runners around the World. Her and co-founder Dimity McDowell truly paved the way as far as podcasting, community and business goes in this niche space.
The Another Mother Runner crew have training plans, retreats and so much more to offer and you can find more info on what they are up to at AnotherMotherRunner.com.
Today in this conversation Sarah and I talk about our own running and podcasting but we spend the majority of our time talking about both of our loves for pickleball. I’m a little bit newer to the game than Sarah but we both find so much joy out of this new to us sport so we wanted to share that with all of you.
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May 9, 2025 • 1h 4min
Episode 611: Josette Andrews – USATF 5K Champion in Indianapolis!
Josette Andrews is one of my favorite runners to watch. Her enthusiasm for the sport is unmatched.
She won the USATF 5K Championships on the road this past weekend in Indianapolis and breaks down the race for us today! She had a great little indoor season running 14:44 for the 5K and also running a 3,000 PR.
Josette runs with On Athletics and works with Coaches Dathan Ritzenhein and Kelsey Quinn. She’s got her eyes on making the team in Tokoyo this summer on the track!
Show Notes/Time Stamps:
00:00Celebrating Josette’s National Title
03:07Race Strategy and Execution
05:55Pre-Race Preparation and Routine
09:08Support from Friends and Family
12:01Reflections on the Race Experience
15:03Looking Ahead to Future Races
18:01Team Dynamics and Training
20:57The Importance of Strength Training
24:00Transitioning to a New Training System
29:05Navigating Injuries and Setbacks
31:03The Journey to Olympic Trials
33:38Overcoming Challenges and Building Resilience
36:57Training Strategies and Mindset
39:55Cross-Training and Recovery Techniques
42:00Nutrition and Consistency in Training
43:56Watching and Supporting Fellow Athletes
46:55Goals and Future Aspirations
50:59Daily Focus and Process Goals
52:06Recommendations and Fun Conversations
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