I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

Really excited to bring you another track star on the podcast—Grant Fisher joins us today! Grant had the year of his life in 2024, bringing home two bronze medals from the Paris Olympics in both the 5,000m and the 10,000m. He made history as the first American ever to medal in both of those events at the same Olympic Games. Pretty incredible.He also competed in the Tokyo Olympics, where he placed ninth in the 5,000m and fifth in the 10,000m. Since then, he’s continued to level up. Just this year, he ran three indoor races back-to-back-to-back: the 1500m, the 3000m, and the 5000m. In the process, he broke two WORLD RECORDS—in the 3000m and the 5000m—two weeks in a row.Grant runs for Nike and is now gearing up for the Grand Slam series. You’ll catch him in Kingston this weekend, followed by the Miami Slam and the Philadelphia Slam, all leading into USA’s and hopefully the World Championships later this season.It was a blast to get to know Grant—not just as an elite runner, but as someone who grew up in a super athletic family. He ran for Stanford and has two siblings who also compete at a high level, though in soccer. I’ve wanted to have him on the show for a long time, and if you heard my interview with Kara Goucher and Des Linden earlier this year, you might remember me saying, “I really want to interview Grant Fisher.” Well, here we are!Want to listen to this show ad-free? Head over to patreon.com/lindseyhein to support the show for as little as $3 a month and get all episodes without any ad interuptions.What we talked about:4:20- Catching up on Grant’s training5:50- Breaking World Records this indoor season13:00- Grand Slam Track36:25- His athletic family47:00- Focusng on the long term in training starting in high school53:50- Racing Cole Hocker58:00- Double bronze medals at the Olympics1:08:30- TraIning with Bowerman and deciding to leave the team1:16:20- End of podcast questionsShow notes:Flowers for AlgernonSeverence on Amazon PrimeConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:PrevinexUse code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens SuperfoodUse the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health PlusIndy MiniGo to indymini.com to learn more!I’ll Have Another with Lindsey Hein LIVE! at Bottleworks

Welcome to the running podcaster series! I’m bringing you a collection of conversations with fellow podcasters in the running space—people I know you already love and maybe a few new voices you’ll be excited to discover. My hope is to link arms with these wonderful humans and share their stories and perspectives with you. You might listen to some of them every week, but don’t often get to hear them on the other side of the mic. I think that’s going to be a fun shift for you.We’re kicking things off with my friend Tina Muir, host of the Running for Real podcast. If you’ve followed her over the last few years—really since around 2021—you’ve probably noticed the way she’s used her platform as a vehicle for social change, especially in advocating for the health of our environment. Tina has raised the bar for major races across the country, including the Bank of America Chicago Marathon, the TCS New York City Marathon, the TCS Toronto Waterfront Marathon, and the AJC Peachtree Road Race, helping these events improve their sustainability efforts. She serves on the board of directors for both Running USA and Earth Day 365.Tina is also the co-author of Becoming a Sustainable Runner: A Guide to Running for Life, Community, and Planet, which she wrote with Zoë Rom. If you’re interested in using running as a force for good, I highly recommend checking it out.She’s a former elite runner, a mom of two, and someone I’ve known since the early days of my own podcasting journey. When I first started, she was hosting the Run to the Top podcast. In 2017, she launched Running for Real, and we’ve kind of grown up in this industry together. It’s been so fun to watch her lean more and more into the things she cares deeply about. She’s still so connected—if not more than ever—to the running community, and she’s carved out a powerful space around sustainability and advocacy within that.Tina always brings a call to action when she speaks—not because it’s rehearsed, but because that’s who she is. She leads with her heart and shares what matters to her. More than anything, I hope you enjoy this conversation and that it kicks off this series in the best possible way—with someone who cares just as much about running as you and I do. Want to listen to this show ad-free? Head over to patreon.com/lindseyhein to support the show for as little as $3 a month and get all episodes without any ad interuptions.All right friends, please enjoy my conversation with Tina Muir.What we talked about:6:30- Tina’s journey in the podcast space12:00- Finding her voice to speak about sustainability20:00- Who is Tina Muir26:00- Making change without making judgements37:00- What running looks like in Tina’s life these days43:45- What Tina has learned over the years in the podcast and running industry48:00- The World Half Marathon Championships no longer being in San Diego and Tina’s role in that55:00- End of podcast questionsShow notes:What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate FuturesApple Cider Vinegar on NetflixConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:BoulderthonUse the code “hein20” for $20 off the marathon or half marathonPrevinexUse code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens SuperfoodUse the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus

My guest today is Brittany Brown, a standout sprinter who has made waves on the international stage. Brittany is our 2024 bronze medalist in the 200 meters from the Paris Olympics and a 200-meter World Silver Medalist from the 2019 World Championships in Doha. In 2023, she competed in the 100 meters at the World Championships and finished seventh. Brittany’s ran for the University of Iowa, where she earned 11 All-American honors.Most recently, she competed at the inaugural Athlos track meet in the fall, where she won the 200 meters, beating none other than Olympic champion and meet co-founder, Gabby Thomas. Brittany also raced in both the 100 meters that day. Looking ahead, she’ll be a key athlete in the highly anticipated Grand Slam Track series, which kicks off in Jamaica, followed by stops in Miami and Philadelphia. I can’t wait to see her race at these exciting meets!Brittany is coached by Boogie Johnson, and during this episode, we dive into her journey from her days at the University of Iowa to turning pro. She shares what it was like to run for Adidas for a while and how her transition to Nike has shaped her career. We also touch on some health challenges she has faced and overcome along the way.It was such a joy interviewing Brittany—seriously, I didn’t want the conversation to end. I’m officially a fan for life! Watching her race is a thrill, and with World Championships coming up this year, as well as USAs, it’s going to be an exciting time to follow her journey. While we usually focus on marathons here, track season is upon us, and I’m thrilled to bring you these conversations with some of our incredible track stars. Make sure you’re tuning into Grand Slam Track to watch Brittany in action!What we talked about:7:00- Reflecting on her Olympic experience24:25- Her coach and training setup38:00- Brittany’s health complications1:00:00- Emotions after winning her Olympic medal1:02:45- Athlos and Grand Slam track1:15:05- End of podcast questionsShow notes:Brittany on InstagramOpen by Andre AgassiA Completely Different Game by Emma HayesConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:Cure HydrationGo to CureHydration.com/another and use the code “another for 20% off your first orderAnderson MapleGo to andersonmaple.com and use the code “Fuel20” for 20% offPrevinexUse code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens SuperfoodUse the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus

I’m excited to bring you this conversation with Taylor Roe, who recently won the 2025 USATF Half Marathon Championships with an impressive time of 67 minutes and 22 seconds on a tough course in Atlanta. This victory was a personal best for Taylor, improving her time by over a minute.What makes this win even more remarkable is that it came as a surprise to many. Taylor has mentioned in several post-race interviews that her goal was to make the team, and winning the race wasn’t necessarily on her radar. But she made it happen. Along with Taylor, Emma Grace Hurley and Amanda Vestri—both of whom have also been guests on this show recently—secured spots on the team as well. This means we’ll be sending a very strong trio of athletes to the World Championships in the half marathon.Taylor is part of Puma Elite in the Raleigh-Durham area, which is exciting for me personally since I also live in the region. She’s coached by Alistair and Amy Cragg. Interestingly, Taylor debuted in the half marathon at the Houston half, and we get to talk about that experience, as well as her decision to race in the Half Marathon Championships. While Taylor loves the track, she’s currently focused on the 10,000 meters and gearing up for some races on the track.Taylor ran for Oklahoma State University, where she was an NCAA Indoor Champion, the 2023 Big 12 Champion in the 5,000 meters, and runner-up in the 2021 NCAA Cross Country Championships. She credits her college coach, Dave Smith, for playing a significant role in shaping her career. Last summer, she finished eighth in the 5,000 meters at the US Olympic Trials, and we all know that Taylor’s path will eventually lead to the marathon. But for now, she’s focused on maximizing her potential on the track before taking that step.It’s clear that an exciting career lies ahead for Taylor Roe, and I’m honored to have had her on the podcast this week.What we talked about7:00- Recapping her win at the US Half champs and pro career so far14:45- How she feels racing on big stages18:10- Recapping how the race played out at the US Half Champs30:00- The decision to join Puma37:20- Where the world champs will be38:25- What’s next for Taylor45:00- Having Amy and Alistair as her coaches47:00- Her college experience53:30- End of podcast questionsShow notes:Let Them Theory by Mel RobbinsConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:LagoonUse the code “Lindsey” for 15% off your orderPrevinexUse code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens SuperfoodUse the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health PlusCornbreadUse the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your order

I’m beyond excited to bring a track athlete to the podcast today—two-time Olympic silver medalist and world championship silver medalist, Kenny Bednarek! He won silver in the 200 meters at the Tokyo Olympics, the Paris Olympics, and the 2022 World Championships. Not to mention, he’s also a 10-time Diamond League champion and runs for Nike.If you’ve seen the Sprint documentary, you’ll recognize Kenny, as he was highlighted in season two, which was really cool to watch. Aside from his incredible accomplishments on the track, Kenny is also an advocate for adoption. He is from Wisconsin. We talked about his journey, which includes running at the community college level for Indian Hills Community College and then turning pro after a year.One of the coolest parts of this episode was when I found out how excited my kids were about this interview—they were definitely more excited about talking to a sprinter than any long-distance runner I’ve had on. So, I made sure to sneak in a few questions from them, which was a fun twist!We also dove into a bit of football talk because Kenny actually used to play the sport. Fun fact: his high school team won both the state championships in track and field and football during his senior year.Kenny is also gearing up for the Grand Slam series as a racer—this is the new competition series that Michael Johnson’s team is putting on, and it’s going to be really exciting! The first event, the Kingston Slam, takes place from April 4th to 6th. After that, there will be one competition each month through June, including the Miami Slam, the Philadelphia Slam, and the LA Slam. Kenny is one of 96 athletes competing in this series, and I can’t wait to see how this brings even more exposure and excitement to the sport of track and field!What we talked about:7:30- Kenny’s training group14:00- Reflections on some of his Olympic and World Champs teams16:25- Kenny’s girlfriend and how they met21:45- Grand Slam Track and growing the sport27:00- His adoption story34:50- Kenny’s time playing football41:35- What his trajectory in the sport looks like to him45:45- Technique in the sprints52:00- Picking himself up after dissapointing results55:40- Questions form the Hein boys1:00:00- Competing for a junior college and then going pro1:03:15- End of podcast questionsShow notes:Zen in the Art of Archery Support our sponsors:LagoonUse the code “Lindsey” for 15% off your orderCure HydrationGo to CureHydration.com/another and use the code “another for 20% off your first orderMaui NuiGo to mauinuivenison.com/lindseyCheck out Lindsey Hein’s training plans HERE!

Today on the show, we’re joined by the incredible Calli Hauger-Thackery, and wow, she’s definitely one to watch right now. She just ran a massive PR in Japan, clocking in a time of 66:58 for the half marathon, which placed her second. Recently, she also returned to the track for the first time in eight years, where she raced indoors.Calli’s versatility as an athlete is truly something to admire. She made her marathon debut at the McKirdy Micro Marathon in 2023, where she won with an impressive 2:22:17. That victory set the stage for an incredible year ahead. Not long after, she was selected to represent Great Britain at the Paris Olympics, although she had to DNF that race due to a variety of challenges. We dive into all of that in the episode.But Calli didn’t stop there. She came back strong, running a PR of 2:21:24 in Berlin, and then went on to win the California International Marathon (CIM) last year with a 2:24:28, including a thrilling sprint to the finish. She’s sponsored by Nike and coached by her husband, Nick, and she’s been crushing some truly fast times.We recorded this before the Gate River Run, but Calli went on the win that last weekend. She’ll also be running the TEN 10k on the track and is preparing for her first Boston Marathon in April. It’s going to be an exciting time for her, and she’s just such a positive presence in the running world, always bringing great energy and showing up alongside all of these amazing women running incredible times.Enjoy!What we talked about:4:30- Catching up on training 10:30- Life outside of running12:30- Callie and Nick’s wedding20:10- Looking ahead at the Boston Marathon24:40- Reflections on her marathon debut29:45- Her fueling strategy31:05- Her Olympic experience38:30- Her season after the Olympics56:00- Her recent 66:58 half marathon59:00- Having Nick as her coach1:00:04- Looking ahead at the future of her career1:10:30- Her sponsorship with Nike1:14:00- End of podcast questionsShow notes:Rental TycoonsMile to Go by Joan Benoit SamuelsonConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:Cure HydrationGo to CureHydration.com/another and use the code “another for 20% off your first orderAnderson MapleGo to andersonmaple.com and use the code “Fuel20” for 20% offBitchStickGo to BitchStick.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off your order

Today, my guest is Kellyn Taylor, and I’m so happy to have her back on the podcast! Kellyn is a returning guest, and she’s been on the show multiple times over the eight years I’ve been hosting. Most recently, we had her on just before the Olympic marathon trials last February. Kellyn’s got some exciting races coming up. She’s gearing up for the US Half Marathon Championships this weekend, and she recently ran the Mesa Half Marathon, where she had an amazing race, finishing second with a time of 69:15.Right now, Kellyn is also training for Boston, where she’ll be running this spring. She’s also got the New York City Half on her schedule. So, lots of great races ahead! Kellyn ran for Hoka NAZ Elite for a decade, and we’ve all watched her and that team grow and achieve incredible things over the years. It feels like I’ve kind of grown up alongside her in the industry.But this past year, Hoka made the decision to drop Kellyn, along with Steph Bruce and Lauren Hagans, some of the team’s original members. We talk with Kellyn about how she’s processed that change over the last few months, what’s been going on in her world since, and what new shoes she’s trying out. We also dive into the topic of ageism, because as Kellyn puts it, nobody gets to decide when your career ends—only you get to decide that.Last year was definitely a tough one for Kellyn. I think she called it a “hard year but a decent year”—she says it in the episode, but it was a year of recovery after some injuries. Despite that, she managed to place 15th at the US Olympic Marathon Trials, and then she went on to place sixth in the 10,000 meters at the US Trials. After that, she placed 10th in New York, running a 2:27:59. That was actually her worst finish ever at New York, but it’s still incredible. She’s always been in the top 10 there, and it was her fifth time racing the course.I’m really excited for Kellyn and what’s ahead for her in 2025. She’s got big goals and is looking forward to trying new things this year. I’ll definitely be cheering hard for her. So, I hope you enjoy my conversation with Kellyn Taylor.What we talked about:3:00- Catching up with Kellyn5:05- Running the half marathon championships this weekend12:50- The cuts from HOKA and reflections on her past few years18:00- NYC Marathon22:00- Looking ahead to the Boston Marathon34:00- What’s exciting Kellyn in life and in running37:45- Her kids and family44:00- What shoes she is trying out46:20- What her future with sponsorships looks like50:00- Favorite memories over her career so far52:00- Her plans to race trails54:00- End of podcast questionsConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:Cure HydrationGo to CureHydration.com/another and use the code “another for 20% off your first orderCornbreadUse the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your orderAnderson MapleGo to andersonmaple.com and use the code “Fuel20” for 20% off

In this episode, we’re sitting down with professional marathoner Annie Frisbie, who runs for Puma and has been with them since 2021. Annie made her marathon debut that same year at the 2021 New York City Marathon, where she ran an impressive 2:26:18 and finished in seventh place. I’m not sure why it took me this long to get Annie on the podcast, but I’m so glad we finally made it happen!Annie’s been recovering from a hamstring injury after the Chicago Marathon this past fall, where she ran a solid 2:27:52. But now, she’s gearing up for her second Boston Marathon, and I can’t wait to see how she tackles that iconic course a second time around. We all know how much we learn from our first time running Boston, so it’ll be interesting to hear about what she’s doing differently this year.Annie trains with the Minnesota Distance Elite team, alongside one of our favorites, Dakota Lindwurm, who’s also a great friend and training partner of Annie’s. Before her professional career, Annie ran for Iowa State, and we get into that a bit too. It was such a pleasure to sit down and chat with Annie, and I think you’ll enjoy getting to know her in this episode. What we talked about:3:00- Gearing up for the Boston Marathon!10:00- What her recovery looks like from injuries21:45- Sub 3 project with Puma23:40- What’s ahead for Annie27:00- Her race tactics and workouts that she loves30:00- Reflections on the Olympic Trials34:00- Annie’s marathoning career45:20- Training in Minnesota49:00- Training plans for the winterShow notes:Books recommendedGame of Thrones SeriesOpenShows recommended:The BoysThe BearWhite LotusConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:Cure HydrationGo to CureHydration.com/another and use the code “another for 20% off your first orderCornbreadUse the code “Another” at checkout for 30% off your order

I’m so excited to share this conversation with Amanda Vestri, who is an absolute joy to interview. She’s got a lot to say about her goals with running and how her mindset has evolved over time. It was inspiring hearing her talk about how she views the sport and what’s ahead for her.Recently, Amanda ran an impressive 67:35 at the Houston Half Marathon, marking her second-ever half. Her debut was in Orlando, where she won and ran 68:12. She was initially supposed to run the Valencia Half, known for its speed, but due to an injury that popped up just weeks before, she had to pull out. Instead, she raced in Orlando and then in Houston, which led to an amazing result. At Houston, she finished as the second American behind Weini Kelati, and fourth overall. With the Half Marathon Championships coming up in Atlanta this March, it’s going to be exciting to see Amanda, Weini, and many other fast women battling it out. The field will be stacked!Amanda is sponsored by Brooks and runs with ZAP Fitness. She ran for Syracuse University after initially starting her college career at Iowa State. In our conversation, she reflects on her journey post-college and how it wasn’t quite what she expected. The path to finding the right team and sponsorship wasn’t smooth at first, but ZAP Fitness really gave her the opportunity she needed. And now she has a sponsorship with Brooks!Speaking of her sponsorship with Brooks, she shares a wild story about signing her deal just an hour before the Olympic Trials, which is something I found so interesting. Amanda also had an amazing result at the Olympic Trials in the 10,000 meters, finishing fifth while coming off a COVID recovery, which is an incredible accomplishment given the competition.She currently lives in Blowing Rock, North Carolina, where ZAP Fitness is based, and it’s always a pleasure to chat with her. I know when she runs her first marathon, it’s going to be something special.I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did! Thanks for being here and enjoy my chat with Amanda Vestri.What we talked about:3:00- Reflections on her first year as a pro9:45- Her recent half marathon success25:10- How she is feeling walking away from Houston29:50- Heading into the half marathon champs35:00- Other upcoming races 43:00- Her partnership with Brooks51:00- Her college experience and turning pro1:10:20- End of podcast questionsShow notes:Just the Nicest CoupleElin Hilderbrand’s booksMary Higgins Clark booksConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:PrevinexUse code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens SuperfoodUse the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health PlusTake on Barilla’s Protein Pasta Winter Energy Challenge on the Strava Fitness AppComplete 10 days of movement for your Barilla Pasta reward! Go to https://strava.app.link/barillaMaui NuiGo to mauinuivenison.com/lindsey

Today, we have Paralympian Hannah Dederick on the show. Hannah is a two-time Paralympian and a wheelchair athlete in the T-54 class. She competed in the Tokyo Paralympics at just 18 years old, making her the youngest wheelchair athlete at those Games. In Tokyo, she placed fourth in the 100 meters. At the Paris Paralympics, she competed in the 100, 400, and 800 meters, finishing sixth in the 100, fourth in the 400, and seventh in the 800, making it to all three event finals.In addition to her Paralympic achievements, Hannah is a three-time marathoner, having competed in the New York, Boston, and Chicago marathons. She also made history by winning the first-ever National Collegiate Wheelchair Championship in the 100 meters at Hayward Field. This was a major milestone, as it marked the first time there had been a National Collegiate Wheelchair Championship, alongside other events like basketball and tennis. Big progress is being made in the world of para-sport!Hannah’s story is truly incredible. Born in China with spina bifida, she was adopted at the age of four from an orphanage. She discovered para-sport at the age of 12 through her local Shriners Hospital, and from there, the rest is history. She has been competing in para-sport for over 10 years now, making her world stage debut at just 16 years old. Currently, she is studying at the University of Illinois.Hannah’s journey is remarkable, and I’m excited for you to hear her story. I hope this conversation not only inspires you but also opens your eyes to the world of para-sport.Thanks for being here, and please enjoy my conversation with Hannah Dederick.What we talked about:Being a part of the first ever NCAA Wheelchair Track ChampionshipsThe importance of inclusion in college sportsWhere she finds strength on hard training daysHer range in events from sprints to the marathonTraining with the University of IllinoisHer childhoodLooking ahead to her career trajectoryIncreasing the visibility of parathleticsGoals for the future in sport and beyondShow notes:Move UnitedChallenge Athlete FoundationConnect with Lindsey: Lindsey on InstagramLindsey on TwitterSupport our sponsors:Support our sponsors:PrevinexUse code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens SuperfoodUse the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health PlusLagoonUse the code “Lindsey” for 15% off your orderCheck out Lindsey Hein’s training plans HERE!