I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

I hope you had a wonderful Chicago Marathon weekend — if you raced, congrats! It was such a joy to be in Chicago again. Today I’m recapping the Chicago Marathon with the one and only Emily Venters. I spoke with Emily at the pre-race press conference — she was so excited to debut the marathon. If you had her on your tracker, you saw that things went sideways on race day. In this conversation, Emily shares the full story of what unfolded on the course and how she handled it — with so much grace, grit, and determination. She crossed that finish line about an hour off her goal time, finishing with the masses — something you almost never see a pro do — and there are so many powerful lessons in how she did it. If you’re new to Emily, she was on the show back in May after breaking 15 in the 5K (episode 609). She debuted the half in Houston, placed 5th at the US Half Marathon Championships, and owns a 68:48 PR in the half. She runs for Nike, lives in Utah, and is coached by Ed Eyestone. Emily is also a leukemia survivor (diagnosed at age 3), and she was raising money for that cause in Chicago — another reason finishing meant so much to her. I was at the finish looking for her with my friend (and relay co-host) Erika Kemp, and watching Emily come down that stretch was emotional and inspiring. Go give Emily a follow and a big virtual hug: @VentersEmily on Instagram. We are so proud of you, Emily — can’t wait to see what you do next. Topics Discussed The decision to finish anyway after a prolonged stop in the med tent. Overheating & low sodium symptoms starting as early as miles 6–8. Rejoining with the masses — dodging cups, weaving through runners, lost bottle tables. Improvising fueling — grabbing Gatorade cups, a spectator’s Coke, and a body-armor drink. The Biofreeze-in-the-eye moment — chaos of the mass field. Letting go of ego — finishing with a much slower time vs. DNF. Ties to her leukemia story and fundraising as motivation to finish. Learning the marathon’s science (sweat rate, sodium, carbs) vs. half/10K. Support system — Ed Eyestone, teammates, and the pro road community. Mindset work — journaling, daily “how do I feel?” check-ins, and redefining success. SponsorsTailwind Nutrition — Complete energy, electrolytes, hydration; light taste, easy on the gut. Their recovery mix has 20g protein and the single-serve sticks make refueling simple. Code: another20 at tailwindnutrition.com for 20% off.Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and gummies for a relaxed unwind without alcohol. Flavors like Blueberry Breeze, Raspberry Limeade, Salted Watermelon, and Peach Iced Tea. cornbreadhemp.com/another and use code: ANOTHER for 30% off.DONNA Marathon Weekend (Jacksonville, FL | Jan 30–Feb 1) — Funds breast cancer research and supports patients. I’ll be there! breastcancermarathon.com — code: LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Reviews & GiveawayWe’re giving away a Tailwind Nutrition gift bundle! Leave a new rating/review in October or November, and you’re entered. We’ll announce the winner the first week of December. (Congrats to KellyDC2 — winner of the Shokz headphones!)

Today my guest is Jay Dicharry — a physical therapist, researcher, coach, and the founder of the MOBO board. If you’re in the running world, you’ve probably heard his name before. Jay is also the author of Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed, which I’ve been reading and loving lately. I’ve also been using the MOBO board every day and can honestly say it’s been a game changer. Jay is such a kind and humble person, and his passion for helping runners move better and stay healthy really shines through in this conversation. He’s a faculty member at Oregon State University and has built an international reputation for his expertise in biomechanical analysis, injury prevention, and performance training. His career has spanned directing the Speed Clinic at the University of Virginia, running an independent lab in Oregon, and consulting with everyone from USA Track & Field to the U.S. Air Force. I felt like I got a free consultation during this interview! Jay truly elevates the standard of care for athletes, therapists, and coaches everywhere. I think you’re going to walk away from this one feeling motivated, inspired, and ready to commit to your strength work. Topics Covered: Jay’s backstory / path to running PT Prepping the body before building mileage Simple posture/form cues that stick Movement learning (focus over multitasking) Where to start: short “precision” sessions + strength work Treadmill pros/cons and pacing by effort Tendon basics: slow loading and pain guidelines Finding the right PT and communicating clearly Foot strength & MOBO fundamentals Media Recommended: Running Rewired: Reinvent Your Run for Stability, Strength, and Speed — Jay Dicharry (2nd edition referenced). The Midnight Library — Matt Haig. Support Our Sponsors: Eternal Go to eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! Indianapolis Monumental Marathon Weekend: I’ll be your race emcee at the Monumental Marathon — come find me at the start or finish line! Allianz Richmond Marathon Weekend: I’ll be at the Richmond Marathon expo and hosting a live podcast there — I’d love to see you!

I’m your host, Lindsey Hein, and today I’m joined by Keira D’Amato! I’m so proud of her and thrilled that her new book, Don’t Call It a Comeback, is officially out in the world. I had the chance to read an advanced copy this summer and absolutely loved getting a deeper look into how she’s processed her rise to success in our running community. We’ve all watched her story unfold—from breaking the American record in the marathon (2:19:12) in 2022, to setting the half marathon record (1:06:39), to balancing her life as a mom of two and Nike athlete. Keira is now training in Utah under coach Ed Eyestone, and this conversation is exactly what you’d expect from her—fun, honest, and inspiring. It’s been a while since she’s been on the show, and she always makes it so easy to root for her. I’m so excited for you to hear what’s next in her journey and to celebrate this new chapter as an author. Topics Discussed: Book tour feelings & “imposter” author vibes Working with co-writer Evelyn Spence + keeping Keira’s voice; how the title Don’t Call It a Comeback happened Handling mainstream attention vs “real-life” mom Keira; separating personas Early motherhood, loneliness, and how running/community helped Move to Utah; choosing coach Ed Eyestone; altitude + team culture; big Sunday-off change and training differences Being 41: masters records, recovery tweaks, and (not yet) perimenopause Racing update: 69’ half in Copenhagen; choosing Valencia Marathon; taking the kids along Broadcasting experience (Chicago) and learning from front-row views of elite marathoning Storytelling/DJ/“life bits”and why telling your own stories matters Olympic Trials disappointment, lessons, resilience, and modeling that for her kids Media Mentioned: Books Don’t Call It a Comeback — Keira D’Amato My Friends — Fredrik Backman A Man Called Ove — Fredrik Backman Anxious People — Fredrik Backman How to Tell a Story — The Moth Shows / Film Taskmaster (UK comedy series) The Sex Lives of College Girls (HBO) The Summer I Turned Pretty (Prime Video) Podcasts Relay Support our Sponsors: CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Lagoon — Personalized pillows designed for optimal rest and recovery. Try their new cooling pillow, “The Otter.” Visit lagoonSleep.com/lindsey and use LINDSEY for 15% off. Donna Marathon Weekend — Jacksonville, FL, February 1–2, 2025. Supports breast cancer research and families impacted by diagnosis. Register at breastcancermarathon.com and use LINDSEY10 for $10 off. Foot Levelers — Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact.

This week on the Wellness Series, I’m joined by Claire Shorenstein, a board-certified sports dietitian who’s spent over a decade helping active people fuel their bodies to feel strong and perform their best. Claire is also a passionate trail and ultrarunner, a mom of two, and the host of the Eat for Endurance podcast. Claire’s own experience struggling to fuel properly as a new runner led her to change careers and devote her work to helping others do it better. In our conversation, she shares practical guidance for athletes of all levels—whether you’re training for your first 5K or your tenth ultra—on how to approach nutrition to support your running, recovery, and overall wellness. This was such a fun and informative conversation, and I hope it leaves you feeling more confident about fueling your body to feel well and run well. What we discussed: Claire’s path from classical musician/oboe player (Yale) to sports dietitian & endurance runner Her philosophy: looking at the “whole person” (life landscape, health history, lab work, lifestyle) Balancing everyday nutrition with training & race-day fueling Common mistakes endurance athletes make — especially under-eating carbs Tracking food intake without triggering disordered-eating tendencies Protein, carbs & fueling as we age: peri/menopause, bone health, energy availability Athlete performance plates & learning what “enough” really looks like Her advice for new marathoners: start by adding more carbs and always fuel before/after workouts Media Recommended: Eat for Endurance podcast – eatforendurance.com Book: Practical Fueling for Endurance Athletes by Kylie Van Horn Claire’s IG: @eatforendurance Kylie’s IG: @flynutrition3 Support our Sponsors: Foot Levelers Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact. Eternal Use code another10 for 10% off at checkout at eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and CBD/THC gummies; third-party tested; made in the USA. Code ANOTHER for 30% off at cornbreadhemp.com.

Today’s guest is longtime pro Natosha Rogers, back on the show for the first time in about eight years and running her third marathon in Chicago. Natosha has an impressive and long running career so far—NCAA 10K champ in 2012, four Olympic Trials appearances on the track, and a gutsy (and very tough) marathon debut at the 2024 Trials that left her wanting a do-over. She got it this March in Nagoya, running 2:23:51—proof of concept that the marathon is her event when things go right. Since then, she’s moved back home to Colorado, shifted coaching to Steve Magness, and is leaning into a smarter, individualized approach—less ego, more wisdom—for Chicago. We get into why she now believes finishing at the Trials was a mistake, how she managed a mid-race pacing surge in Nagoya, why Chicago’s organization and pacers fit this moment in her career (and contract year), and how a balanced life—family, Denver community, mountains, coffee shops, even a little dancing—actually fuels big goals. It’s reflective, candid, and Chicago-ready—get Natosha in your tracker and enjoy the episode! Top topics discussed: Move back to Colorado; coaching change to Steve Magness and why 2024 Trials debrief: why finishing was a mistake and what it cost her Nagoya marathon: mid-race pacing error, learning to “juggle variables,” and 2:23:51 redemption Marathon wisdom: negotiating with yourself, managing heat/pace, “be a wise old lady” early Injury context (sciatic/nerve chain), lessons on knowing when to stop Leaving the Puma elite group; need for individualized training and life/work separation Why Chicago: organized pacing, fast course, contract timing, field fit and top-10 aim What she values in Steve Magness as a coach: collaboration, individualized volume, mental side of performance Career perspective: longevity, duality of highs/lows, inspired to keep going through 2028 Life outside running: Denver community, mountains, coffee shops, dancing; writing goals/book ideas Media mentioned: Books: The Goldfinch (Donna Tartt), A New Earth (Eckhart Tolle), The Alchemist (Paulo Coelho) Music (karaoke pick): Aretha Franklin — “Chain of Fools” Sponsors: Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and CBD/THC gummies; third-party tested; made in the USA. Code ANOTHER for 30% off at cornbreadhemp.com. Tailwind Nutrition — Endurance Fuel as all-in-one calories, electrolytes, and hydration; gentle on the stomach; code ANOTHER20 at tailwindnutrition.com. Fringe Heals — Red light therapy face mask and body wraps; FDA-registered mask. Code HEIN10 at fringeheals.com.

For this episode in my Wellness One series, I sat down with Dr. Kurt Juergens, a chiropractor who’s spent 36 years treating runners and athletes. He’s worked on the USATF Olympic Trials sports medicine team (1992) and with the U.S. Men’s Clay Court Tennis Championships—and he’s run seven marathons himself. I came in with basic (and very real) questions: What exactly is happening when something “cracks”? Is it okay that I pop my kids’ backs? How does chiropractic help runners beyond the satisfying pop? We got into feet-as-foundation, why balance and hamstring flexibility matter more than you think, how kinesiology tape actually works, and when custom orthotics (that support all three arches) can change the chain reaction up your ankles, knees, hips, and back. If you’re curious about chiropractic but haven’t tried it (hi, it’s me), this one breaks it down without the overwhelm. Topics we cover Dr. Juergens’ 36 years in sports-focused chiropractic care What’s really happening when you hear the “pop” Safe vs. unsafe back-popping for kids Feet as the foundation: pronation, arches, orthotics Balance and hamstring flexibility for runners Kinesiology tape basics and postural taping When to add PT or imaging and how often to get adjusted Quick drills for runners and posture tips Media & resources mentioned Eternal — performance health plans: eternal.co (code ANOTHER10) Foot Levelers — custom three-arch orthotics (via providers): footlevelers.com Dr. Kurt Juergens — Chiropractic & Sports Rehab Center (Houston, TX) Kinesiology Tape MOBO Board — balance/foot stability tool Lindsey mentioned using Sponsors: Fringe Heals Use code “HEIN10” for 10% off! Foot Levelers Visit FootLevelers.com to find a provider near you, or email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com or DM me on Instagram @lindseyhein626 and I will point you to the right contact. Eternal Use code another10 for 10% off at checkout at eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans!

I’m so excited to bring you this conversation with Julia Paternain on the I’ll Have Another Podcast today! Julia just placed third at the World Championships marathon in Tokyo, earning a bronze medal in only her second marathon. She represents Uruguay, trains in Flagstaff with McKirdy Trained, and is coached by Jack Polerecky. Julia ran 2:27:23 in that race, coming in as one of the last-ranked athletes in the field and leaving with a medal. We talk about her training, mindset, and the confidence it took to run her own race and finish on the podium. Top topics discussed Julia’s emotions and confusion at the finish line in Tokyo Handling the late hills and hot, humid conditions Fueling and hydration strategies with Maurten Race mindset: patience, pack dynamics, and not counting herself out From being ranked 288th to winning bronze — mental approach and confidence Processing the sudden media attention and national pride from Uruguay Her running journey: childhood in England, Penn State/Arkansas NCAA experience, injuries, and transition to Flagstaff Training now: mileage, long run workouts, and strength work with McKirdy Trained Goals for faster marathon and half marathon times, and thoughts on majors like London and Boston Media mentioned Books: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, The Silent Patient TV/Film: One Tree Hill, 90210, The Hills, High Five (kids’ show) Support our Sponsors: Tailwind Nutrition — Endurance Fuel as all-in-one calories, electrolytes, and hydration; gentle on the stomach; code ANOTHER20 at tailwindnutrition.com. Previnex — Gut & Green Superfoods with clinically studied ingredients for digestion, immunity, longevity, and energy; also protein, joint supplements, multivitamins, Muscle Health. Codes you can use: LINDSEYSUPERFOODS when Gut & Green is in cart; otherwise ANOTHER or LINDSEYSTRENGTH for Muscle Health at previnex.com. Cornbread Hemp — THC seltzers and CBD/THC gummies; third-party tested; made in the USA. Code ANOTHER for 30% off at cornbreadhemp.com. CURE Hydration — No added sugar or dyes; electrolyte mix for adults and kids; non-GMO; FSA/HSA eligible. Use ANOTHER for 15% off at curehydration.com/another.

When I thought about putting together this wellness series, I knew I wanted to bring on my acupuncturist, Boris Bernadsky. Boris is a licensed acupuncturist and herbalist at City of Oaks Acupuncture. He focuses on pain, neurological, and autoimmune conditions and was inspired by his own healing journey. His practice combines traditional Chinese medicine with ongoing study of physiology to provide personalized, effective care. I first started seeing Boris in May for bursitis in my foot and Achilles tendonitis. I also asked if he could help with a strange itchy-arm condition I’ve dealt with every summer for over 10 years. Since then, he’s supported me not only with those issues, but also with nervous system regulation and anxiety. In this episode, Boris explains what acupuncture really is, what it can help with, and how it fits into traditional Chinese medicine. You’ll hear about herbs, dry needling, nervous system regulation, and why even a simple monthly visit can feel restorative. Topics we cover: My personal path to acupuncture and what has changed for me Acupuncture within traditional Chinese medicine: the core branches How needles work today vs historically, and what “qi” actually means Nervous system regulation, rest and digest, and ear points Herbal medicine: warming vs cooling herbs and customizing formulas Common conditions acupuncture treats well, and when PT or other care is better Dry needling compared to acupuncture What a session feels like: environment, cost, insurance, and community models Boris’s marathon training, fueling, and love of running Tea, coffee, and nervous system effects Choosing the right acupuncturist and the role of moderation in health Media and resources mentioned City of Oaks Acupuncture: cityofoaksacupuncture.com Books: He Who Fights With Monsters; Born to Run; Running with Sherman YouTube: “Ran to Japan” channel following Jake’s pro-running journey in Japan Events: Bolderthon marathon; Leadville burro race Fuel and gear mentioned: Tailwind, Huma gels, NOOGS, Brooks Tea site: Path of Cha (pathofcha.com) Support our sponsors: Eternal Use code another10 for 10% off at checkout at eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Use code wellness for $10 off on any training plans! Cornbread Use the code Another at checkout for 20% off your order.

I was so happy to welcome Amanda Vestri back on the show! She’s one of my favorite athletes to follow—and one of the sweetest people—and I’m thrilled to watch her make her marathon debut this fall at the New York City Marathon. In this episode, Amanda shares the behind-the-scenes journey that led to this moment: from the disappointment of the canceled World Half Marathon Championships to choosing New York over Chicago for her debut, and how she’s embracing the challenge of the unknown. We talk about what it’s been like closing the chapter with ZAP Endurance (her training group), navigating training without a permanent team, fueling and long runs, and how the marathon is already helping her grow as an athlete. Amanda opens up about her strengths and struggles, what she’s still chasing on the track, and how she’s approaching this next step with a mindset of curiosity and joy. If you’re a fan of process-oriented training, women’s distance running, or just rooting for good people doing big things, this one’s for you. Follow Amanda on Instagram at @a_vestri and follow me at @lindseyhein626. Topics we cover: Amanda’s decision to debut the marathon at NYC The cancelation of the World Half Marathon Championships Closing the ZAP Endurance chapter Training solo and finding support Long runs, fueling, and race prep Watching Team USA women at Worlds Championship vs. time trial racing styles Her future goals on the track (including breaking 15:00!) Finding confidence through half marathons and road races Running as a lifelong practice, not just for competition Book talk and Ellen Hildebrand obsessions What Amanda’s loving lately: Welcome to the Beach Town by Susan Wiggs Anything by Elin Hilderbrand Lindsey recommends: Nora Goes Off Script and Summer Romance by Annabel Monahan Support our sponsors: Shokz Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout for a discount on your order Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Cornbread Use the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your order Tailwind Nutrition Use code “Another20” at checkout

Today on the Wellness Series, I’m joined by Dr. Carla DiGirolamo, a board-certified reproductive endocrinologist who focuses on female athletic performance and menopause health. She’s also a CrossFit Level 1 trainer, certified nutrition coach, and endocrine consultant for Eternal (the sponsor for this series!). We dig into what women’s performance endocrinology actually is, why many active women feel unseen in typical medical settings, and how to think about testing, training, fueling, and recovery through our reproductive continuum. We also get practical on perimenopause, hot flashes, bone health, strength work for runners, weighted vests, and a quick cortisol 101. What we talked about: How Dr. Carla blended endocrinology with sport to serve athletic women The athlete’s frustration in standard care and how to choose a provider who “gets” training and nutrition Hormone testing 101: test to answer a specific question, not “everything” Perimenopause basics: a 6–8 year transition, why it feels “chaotic,” and what to do first HRT vs hormone therapy: who needs replacement, who is treating symptoms, and risk/benefit basics Sleep, hot flashes, and why symptom relief can indirectly support body composition Bone health: fueling first, protein, heavy lifting, plyometrics, and running as load for bone Weighted vests: when they help, when they hurt, practical rules to use them safely Strength for runners: carving out on- and off-seasons, keeping a base, and using coaching wisely Body types, goals, and social media noise; Cortisol 101 and why recovery brings the gains Resources Mentioned: Provider directory: menopause.org (look for MSCP-credentialed clinicians) Community: Feisty Menopause and the Hit Play Not Pause ecosystem Reading: Stacy Sims’ books for nutrition and training guidance for active women Blog: Dr. Carla’s Athletic Aging blog on evidence-based training and menopause Eternal: eternal.co with code ANOTHER10 Support our sponsors: Eternal Use code another10 for 10% off at checkout at eternal.co and book your performance physical today. Lagoon Use the code “Lindsey” for 15% off your order