I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein Podcast

Today on the show, I’m talking with Bailey Hertenstein! She’s a pro runner for Nike who has had such an exciting year making her debut on the pro scene. Bailey competed at Indiana University and then finished her collegiate career at Colorado—where she became a four-time All-American and placed fifth at the 2022 NCAA Cross Country Championships. This past spring, she took second place at the USATF 5K Championships, finishing right between Josette Norris and Courtney Frerichs. Pretty incredible. She’s now coached by Pete Julian, lives and trains in Boulder, and is heading into the Sunset Tour in LA this weekend to chase that world standard in the 5K. In this conversation, we talk about what she’s learned transitioning to the pro world, how she’s built back confidence, what motivates her now, and how she’s grown both as an athlete and a teammate. She also opens up about the hard stuff—leaving Indiana on bad terms, navigating team dynamics, and what it’s taken to move forward. I loved this conversation with Bailey. She’s sharp, driven, honest, and someone I think we’ll be hearing a lot more from in the years to come. Make sure to go follow Bailey on Instagram at @baileyh_. Topics we discussed: Transition from IU to CU Owning past mistakes and personal growth Choosing to transfer to CU Signing with Nike and staying in Boulder Adjusting to the pro running world Imposter syndrome and mental challenges Breakthrough race at USATF 5K Champs First 10K experiences (track + Mini 10K) Final message on character and kindness Support our sponsors: Shokz Use code “ANOTHER” at checkout for a discount on your order Maui Nui Go to mauinuivenison.com/lindsey Geist Half Race Series Go to geisthalf.com and use the code “Another10” for $10 off any race distances. Cure Hydration Go to CureHydration.com/another and use the code “another for 20% off your first order

Hey friends! Welcome to I’ll Have Another — I’m so glad you’re here. Today I’m talking with Rachel Entrekin, the 2025 Cocodona 250 champion AND course record holder! She ran 63 hours, 58 minutes, and 15 seconds this year to not only win but also break 70 hours for the first time in the race’s history. She’s now a two-time winner, and the first person to win Cocodona back-to-back. In this conversation, we get into Rachel’s story — her love for the trails, her life in Colorado, her work as a physical therapist, and how she’s built the strength (mentally and physically!) to take on 250+ mile races. I was blown away by her passion and the way she approaches this sport with such joy and reverence. She’s been called the Queen of Cocodona — and honestly, that title fits perfectly. Another amazing stat? She finished fourth overall this year — up from 11th overall in 2024 — taking 10 hours off her time from last year. Just incredible. This episode is a reminder of how cool running is. From 100-meter sprinters to ultrarunners covering hundreds of miles, there’s room for everyone in this sport. If you love the ultra scene, definitely check out The Trail Network Podcast, hosted by some of the most inspiring women in the sport: Rachel Drake, Hillary Yang, Leah Yingling, and Katie Asmuth. Their latest episode is packed with advice for new trail runners — go give it a listen. What we talked about: 04:00: Trail Work & Giving Back to the Trails10:10: Meeting Kevin at Western States & Moving to Colorado18:50: Leaving Los Angeles & Prioritizing Trail Access22:30: Mindset in 200+ Mile Races26:00: Redemption at Cocodona 202530:30: Winning Without Chasing the Win36:00: Sleep Strategy in a 250-Mile Race42:10: “Barely Manageable” Pacing Philosophy49:00: Balancing Physical Therapy with Training58:30: Healing from an Eating Disorder & Fueling for Strength Show notes: Book recommendations: A Man Called Ove Something Missing The Humans The Midnight Library Memoirs of an Imaginary Friend Beartown Anxious People Support our sponsors: Cornbread Use the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your order BitchStick Go to Bitchstick.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off your order Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans! Previnex Use code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens Superfood Use the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus

Hey friends! I’m so excited to bring you the another episode in the Behind the Mic series today — I’ve loved hearing your feedback on this series, and it’s been such a joy connecting with other podcasters who love this space as much as I do. Today’s guest is someone I’ve been incredibly inspired by: Dominic Schlueter, the host of The Running Effect podcast. Dominic started his podcast back in July 2020 — and get this — he was only 15 years old at the time. I actually looked back through some old emails and found pitches from him from over five years ago asking me to be a guest on his show! He just turned 20, and his growth and hustle are next-level. In 2023, he became the youngest person ever to land on Spotify’s podcast charts. Dominic is incredibly well-researched, thoughtful, and passionate about our sport. He’s had everyone from elite athletes to a member of Congress on the show. He recently interviewed Aleksander Piotr Lingauer, who ran 61 marathons in 61 days with just a backpack — the kind of story that makes you stop and reflect on what it means to chase something real. That’s what The Running Effect is all about: inspiring people to turn their what ifs into reality. Dominic is also putting in the work behind the scenes — he’s been on-site at events like the the Brooks PR Invitational and he’s consistently putting out high-quality content (we’re talking two Instagram posts a day!). I’m excited to see where this journey takes him. Let me know if you’re enjoying this series! You can email me at lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com, leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts (and shout out your favorite guest!), or share the episode on social. You can tag me @lindseyhein626 and Dominic @therunningeffect. Thanks for listening — I hope you enjoy this conversation with Dominic Schlueter! Show notes: When Breath Becomes Air The Boys in the Boat The Five Types of Wealth Support our Sponsors!! Boulderthon Use the code “hein20” for $20 off the marathon or half marathon Shop Lindsey Hein’s training plans Previnex Use code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens Superfood Use the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus

Hey friends! I’m so excited to bring you this conversation with Erika Kemp on the podcast this week. Erika is a two-time U.S. Champion (15K and 20K), a marathoner who ran a 2:22 in Houston earlier this year, and—most recently—a first-time World Championships team member. She’s also the newest co-host on the Relay podcast team, which I’m thrilled about! Erika has been on the show twice before—once in 2021 when she was chasing the Olympic standard with the BAA, and again in 2023 when she was building toward her Boston Marathon debut. In that race, she made history, running the fastest marathon ever by an American-born Black woman. In this episode, we talk about the evolution of her marathon career—how she shaved over 10 minutes off her Boston time in less than a year—and what that Houston race actually felt like behind the scenes. Erika shares how she’s approached training and racing under her coach Kurt Benninger (Molly Huddle’s husband!), her experience making her first World Champs team, and what it means to her to be a mentor and voice for representation in distance running. We also dive into what it’s been like joining the Relay crew and what you can expect from her as a co-host moving forward. I’m so pumped to have her on board and to share this deeper look at her story. Thanks for listening and supporting the show! If you’re not already following Relay, be sure to check it out—new episodes drop every Tuesday. Enjoy my conversation with Erika Kemp! What we talked about: 5:30- Her partnership with Brooks and being coached by Kurt (Molly Huddle’s husband) 16:40- Confidence gained from her PR in Houston 29:30- Her experience at the Olympic Marathon Trials 36:00- Making her first World Championship team 47:00- Joining the Relay Podcast and thoughts on current running news 58:00- End of podcast questions Show notes: The Circle The Ever Sponsors: Maui Nui Go to mauinuivenison.com/lindsey Previnex Use code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens Superfood Use the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus Cornbread Use the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your order

Today I’m joined by my friends from Believe in the Run — Thomas, Meaghan, and Robbe! If you’ve been around the running world for any amount of time, you’ve likely come across their gear reviews, seen their shakeout runs at major marathons, or tuned into one of their podcasts (The Drop or Fuel for the Sole). These three are such a fun crew and bring so much energy and connection to the running community. We dive into how Believe in the Run got started, how they approach reviewing shoes and gear, what it’s like to create content in the running space, and how they’ve built a brand that so many runners love and trust. It’s a casual, fun conversation — I hope it feels like you’re just listening in on a group of friends chatting about all the things we love about running. What we talked about: 1:45- Catching up with Believe in the Run team 5:35- Diving more in the trail scene this year 11:35- Their branding and the focus on that 16:00- Favorite part of the work at Believe on The Run 41:00- Favorite shoes 43:00- Guests outside of the running community they have on the podcast Show notes: The Heart in Winter The Creative Act: A Way of Being Life’s Too Short In a Men’s World Support our Sponsors!! Boulderthon Use the code “hein20” for $20 off the marathon or half marathon   Go listen to For the Long Run Podcast wherever you get your podcasts or at forthelong.run

Hey friends! I am so excited to welcome Allie Wilson to the show. She’s someone I’ve wanted to have on for a long time, and I just knew this conversation would be a great one — and it totally delivered. Allie is an 800m specialist and became an Olympian last year when she placed second at the U.S. Olympic Trials and competed in Paris in the 800. She’s also represented Team USA at the World Indoor Championships and is the 2024 U.S. Indoor Champion in the 800. Her resume is seriously impressive, but beyond all that, she’s just a joy to talk to. In this episode, we talk about her journey to the Olympics, the transition she made from soccer to track, her time training with the Atlanta Track Club under Amy and Andrew Begley, and the coaching change she’s making now — which she shares here! Allie has recently moved back to New Jersey and is taking a new approach with her training, and I can’t wait to see what this next chapter brings. She also shares a bit about racing the 1500 more in the future, her mindset in training and competition, and how she’s grown through the ups and downs of elite running. I absolutely loved this conversation and think you will too. If you’re enjoying the podcast, it means so much if you leave a quick rating or review wherever you listen — or support the show on Patreon for ad-free episodes and bonus content (pareton.com/lindseyhein). Thanks for being here! What we talked about: 4:55- Catching up with Allie 6:40- Her history with playing soccer 12:10- The decision to run pro with the Atlanta Track Club 15:10- Being an 800m runner 21:30- Making her first Olympic team 36:30- What Allie’s training looks like 38:00- Allie’s new coach!! 40:00- The trajectory of her season 55:45- Working with a mental performance coach 1:05:00- End of podcast questions Show notes: Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo Love on the Spectrum Sponsors: Maui Nui Go to mauinuivenison.com/lindsey Cornbread Use the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your order BitchStick Go to Bitchstick.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off your order Check out Lindsey Hein’s training plans!

Hey friends! This episode of the Behind the Mic series is such a fun one. I got to sit down with my friends Tommie, Aaron, Gary from the PR Project — a running-focused media crew that’s all about amplifying culture, community, and conversation in the run space. You may know Tommie from the Relay podcast, which I also co-host, and I’ve really enjoyed getting to know him over the years. He brings such a creative energy to everything he does, and this whole PR Project is a great example of that. Two years ago, Tommie pitched the idea of bringing the PR Project to The Running Event (TRE) to do live interviews with athletes and brands — and it’s been growing ever since. Tommie and Gary are both sub-3 marathoners, and Aaron is chasing down that same goal, so you know there’s plenty of passion and drive here. But beyond the stats, this is just a super casual conversation among friends — a look behind the scenes at what they’re building, how they approach content creation in the running space, and what it’s like to grow something from the ground up. Right now, they’re gearing up for their Summer of Speed series, which is sponsored by Puma, and I’m so excited to see what they do with it. Hope you enjoy listening in on this one! If you liked the episode, let the guys know (social media linked below). And if you’re enjoying the Behind the Mic series, consider supporting the show on Patreon — even $1 or $3 a month makes a big difference. Thanks for being here! Follow the PR Project: @TommieRunz @AaronXWorldwide @GaryIsARunner What we talked about: 5:00- The history of the PR Project 12:00- What we need to know about Detroit 25:00- Sports chat 37:15- Running hot takes 46:30- Handling hate on the internet 49:30- Goals for the PR Project 55:00- Their careers outside of running 1:06:30- End of podcast questions Show notes: The Power of the Subconscious Mind 26 Marathons Support our Sponsors!! Lagoon Use the code “Lindsey” for 15% off your order Boulderthon Use the code “hein20” for $20 off the marathon or half marathon Go listen to For the Long Run Podcast wherever you get your podcasts or at forthelong.run

On this week’s episode of I’ll Have Another, I’m joined by Olin Hacker! Olin just won the USATF 5K Championships in Indianapolis—such an exciting race to witness, and I was lucky enough to be on the mic announcing it. He’s got an impressive range of PRs: 13:08 in the 5K, 3:36 in the 1500, and a 3:56 mile. He runs professionally for HOKA NAZ Elite out in Flagstaff. We talk about what that win in Indy meant to him, how he’s navigating his professional career, and what it’s like training with a team like NAZ Elite. Olin also shares stories from his time at Wisconsin, where he followed in the footsteps of his dad—also a national champion. And yes, every sibling in his family ran in college, so we had to talk about that running gene, too. We get into the mental side of racing, his experience at World Indoors where he finished 5th in the 3K, and what he’s working toward next. What we talked about: 5:15- Winning his first national title on the roads 10:00- His family’s running legacy 16:00- His decision to join NAZ elite 20:20- How his parents cultivated a success mindset 32:00- Olin’s season so far 36:45- Championship races and strategy 44:20- Being coached by Jack Mullaney 49:00- End of podcast questions Support our sponsors: Lagoon Use the code “Lindsey” for 15% off your order Previnex Use code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens Superfood Use the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus Cornbread Use the code “Another” at checkout for 20% off your order Geist Half Race Series Prices increase June 25, so go to geisthalf.com to sign up and learn more.

Hey friends! We’re back with another episode of the Behind the Mic series, and I’m so excited to bring you this conversation with Jason Fitzgerald. Jason is the founder of Strength Running and the host of the Strength Running Podcast—one of the longest-running and most respected running podcasts out there. Jason has helped so many runners of all levels chase down big goals, and one of his biggest focuses is helping people become well-rounded, injury-resistant athletes through strength training and smart programming. He also offers mental training courses and resources that go beyond the physical side of the sport. We talk about his journey into podcasting and coaching, what it’s like to be a content creator in the running world, and the values that guide the way he shows up for his audience. He shares about his background as a 2:39 marathoner, some of his favorite interviews, and yes—we get into his “Jesus Take the Wheel 5K” strategy, which had me cracking up. Before we recorded this episode, I actually listened to his most recent episode on The Strength Running Podcast all about creatine, featuring Brady Holmer. If you’ve been curious about creatine—what it does, how to take it, whether it’s worth the hype—I can’t recommend that episode enough. It’s super informative but also really easy to understand, and I even found myself rewinding to catch all the nuggets. Highly recommend checking that one out after this episode! Jason is smart, thoughtful, and has a really genuine presence in this space. I loved this conversation and I think you will too. And as always, if you’re loving the show, leaving a quick rating or review goes a long way—or you can support us on Patreon for as little as $3 a month at patreon.com/lindseyhein and you’ll get all of the episodes AD FREE! Thanks so much for being here! Enjoy my conversation with Jason Fitzgerald. What we talked about: 7:45- Jason’s history in running and podcasting 18:05- Injury prevention and rehab 32:00- Translatting marathon training to 5k fitness 40:20- The mental side of training 58:00- How his own running training has changed over the years 1:03:30- What Jason still wants to learn in the sport 1:14:20- End of podcast questions Show notes: Book recommendations: Range by David Epstein The Wolf of Walstreet Strong Men Sapien The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists Why We Run The 4-Hour Workweek Tools of Titans Support our Sponsors!! Previnex Use code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens Superfood Use the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus Boulderthon Use the code “hein20” for $20 off the marathon or half marathon Go listen to For the Long Run Podcast wherever you get your podcasts or at forthelong.run

Dakotah Lindwurm is one of the most beloved runners of our time. It’s been so incredible to watch her grow in her career over the last several years. Seeing her make her first Olympic team in 2024 was something we all celebrated. Dakotah placed 12th at the Olympics in Paris in the marathon and continues to compete with as much enthusiasm as she did all those years ago when she bet on herself and gave being a professional runner a shot. Her journey to becoming an Olympian is a bit unconventional. She ran at a DII school, wasn’t recruited to run pro but applied for a grant and started training hard. She placed 36th at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials – making quite the jump in 2024 to 3rd. Over the years she’s won the Grandma’s Marathon twice and has a marathon PR of 2:24:40 which she ran at the 2023 Chicago Marathon. So much to celebrate and so much to look forward to! Thank you to the Bayshore Marathon and The Traverse City Track Club for having both Dakotah and I out for this event! It was so special to be a part of it for the second year!  Sponsors: Maui Nui Go to mauinuivenison.com/lindsey Previnex Use code “LindseySuperfoods” for 15% off if you purchase the Gut and Greens Superfood Use the code “another” for 15% off OR use code “LindseyStrength” for 15% off if you purchase their new Muscle Health Plus BitchStick Go to Bitchstick.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off your order