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Sep 3, 2024 • 56min
Episode 549: Sara and Kiki Vaughn – Parent-Athlete Series Episode One
I’m thrilled to introduce a new series on the podcast – the Parent-Athlete Series! In this series, I interview both parents and their children, exploring their unique journeys together. We’re kicking things off with one of my favorite runners, Sara Vaughn, and her daughter, Kiki Vaughn.
You probably know Sara as the 1500-meter runner turned marathoner, with an impressive 2:23 marathon personal best. She’s also a Puma athlete, a mom of four, a realtor, and the founder of the Vaughn Child Care Fund. On top of that, she’s achieved two top-10 finishes at the Chicago Marathon.
Kiki, her eldest daughter, has recently started college at Northern Arizona University (NAU), where she’ll be running track and cross country. In this episode, we dive into their experiences – Kiki growing up with a dedicated and accomplished athlete as her mom, and Sara balancing her athletic career while raising a family.
This conversation was a lot of fun, and I’m so grateful for the opportunity to share their story. Best of luck to Kiki this fall at NAU, and to Sara as she prepares for the Chicago Marathon! If you enjoy the episode, please take a moment to leave a rating and review. Let Sara and Kiki know what you think, and I hope you enjoy listening!
What we talked about:
3:00- How Sara allowed Kiki to find her own passion for running
6:20- How Kiki tries to keep the pressure off of her running
10:10- Deciding on which college to run at
18:30- Walking through a dissapointment and showing her kids how to experience failure
21:45- The balance of school, work, and athletics
30:45- How hard work was instilled in her
32:45- Their relationship as mom and daughter
35:40- Finding your identity outside of running
37:00- Picking the best college for you
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Aug 30, 2024 • 1h 2min
Episode 548: Rory Linkletter – A Season to Remember – 2nd Fastest Candian All Time in the Marathon and Olympic Debut
Today my guest is Rory Linkletter. He just ran in the Paris Olympics in the marathon. This was his first Olympic team for Team Canada, which is very exciting. He qualified for the Olympics running a 2:08:01, just nine seconds faster than the Olympic standard at the Sevilla Marathon. This race made him the second fastest Canadian of all time over the marathon distance. So amazing to see Rory’s career take off over the past few years!!
Rory has been working with Ryan Hall as his coach leading up to the Olympic Games. Before that, he was with NAZ Elite under Ben Rosario, and he also was coached by Ed Eyestone in college when he ran for BYU. In this episode, we hear about those three different coaching styles and what those coaches meant to him. He is transitioning from being coached by Ryan Hall to looking for a new coach and he shares about what he is looking for in a coach in this episode.
Since Rory was last on the podcast, he’s had two kids added to his family. He talks about that transition and what that’s been like training at a high level and being a dad.
He recently announced he’ll be running the New York City Marathon, which is really exciting. So we talk about that and the decision that he made to do that. So excited to cheer him on at that race and see what he does!
What we talked about:
2:00- Catching up with Rory
6:45- His experience at the Olympics
16:30- His decision to run the NYC marathon
21:00- Qualifying for the Olympics
34:55- Training with 2 kids
38:15- His partnership with Puma
44:00- His relationship with Conner Mantz and Clayton Young
47:00- His faith
53:15- Running for Team Canada
58:25- End of podcast questions
Show Notes:
The Way of the Runner
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Aug 23, 2024 • 36min
Episode 547: Sabrina Little – The Examined Runner, Why Good People Make Better Runners
Today, my guest is Sabrina Little. Sabrina is a five time national champion. She’s a mom, she’s a professor of philosophy, she’s a trail and ultra runner, a world silver medalist and the author of the book, The Examined Runner.
This is Sabrina’s second time on the podcast! If you want to hear a little bit more about her backstory, she was episode 346 of this podcast in November of 2021, where we talked about philosophy, running and motherhood. Today we catch up on what’s going on in her life. She’s now the mom of two. When we first talked, I think she was fresh off her first baby. Since then she’s written the book The Examined Runner, Why Good People Make Better Runners, is a deep dive into the conversation of how striving to be a better person make you a better runner. It’s a really great book and I loved reading it. She looks at key ideas and virtue ethics. It is one of those books where you underline, you take notes, you read it little by little and really try to understand it. And in this conversation, I loved getting inside Sabrina’s brain a little bit more.
What we talked about:
2:50- Catching up with Sabrina
6:30- Where running is fitting into her life right now
10:50- The process of writing The Examined Runner
15:00- Working on our “character flaws”
21:50- Happy feelings aren’t always the goal
24:50- Finding purpose
32:25- Envy
33:40- Coaching and combining her philosophy knowledge with coaching
38:05- Prioritizing where you spend your time
53:10- Last message to pull away from her book
Show notes:
Sabrina on Instagram
Book Suggestions:
The Anxious Generation
Demon Copperhead
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Aug 16, 2024 • 49min
Episode 546: Abby Nichols – Professional Runner for NAZ Elite; From Olympic Trials Reflections to Her Summer of Racing
Abby Nichols was in town in Raleigh for the Sir Walter Mile so we had the opportunity to do an in person interview! She was the reigning champion of the Sir Walter Mile and she agreed to just come on over and sit in my living room and record, which was so fun.
Abby runs with Hoka NAZ Elite and she is a 1500 meter and 5000 meter runner. She has a personal best in the 1500m of 4:07. Her mile PR, which was run at the Sir Walter Mile is 4:26 and she has a 15:03 PR in the 5000m and 32:27 PR in the 10,000m.
Abby grew up in Ohio, ran for Ohio State, and then went on to run for the University of Colorado. Unexpectedly, we took a turn and talked about her time at University of Colorado, and she weighed in on her thoughts on Mark Wetmore and Heather Burroughs and how they won’t be coming back to coach the team this coming year.
Abby competed at the Olympic trials in the 5,000m and had a bit of a disappointment there. She talks about that and what that’s been like to bounce back from that and continue to race well this summer.
I loved chatting with Abby and am so excited to see what she does during the rest of her career!
Show notes:
Abby on Instagram
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Aug 9, 2024 • 1h 11min
Episode 545: Alexi Pappas – 2016 Olympian, Award Winning Filmmaker, Author of Bravey, & Podcast Host of Mentor Buffet
Today on the podcast, we have Alexi Papas on the show. WOW, is this long overdue or what?!? She’s an Olympian and an award winning filmmaker. She has a book called Bravey, which I’m sure many of you have read. That was forwarded by Maya Rudolph. She also has recently adapted that book for Young Readers as well. It’s called Bravey (Adapted for Young Readers), forwarded by Maya Hawk. She co-wrote, co-directed and starred in the feature films Track Town and Olympic Dreams and has worked alongside the likes of Rachel Dratch and Nick Kroll.
Since this was her first time on my podcast, we talked about what she’s up to now. She’s got a new podcast coming out called Mentor Buffet and we dove into what that’s all about and her inspiration behind it. We also go into her story a little bit as well as we tried to pack it all into our hour long interview and it was really fun. I really, really enjoyed this episode and I’m excited for you all to listen in!
What we talked about:
3:45- Alexi’s involvement with the Olympics this year
6:30- Glittering up for races
8:00- Practicing patience in conversations
9:45- Combining all of her passions
18:10- Alexi’s new podcast
32:50- Finding purpose in her life
45:55- Her mom’s battle with mental health
52:20- The desire for motherhood
57:00- Her book, Bravey
1:00:00- Rapid fire questions
Show notes:
Alexi on Instagram
AlexiPappas.com
Bravey
Bravey (Adapted for Young Readers)
New podcast: Mentor Buffet
Book recommendations:
Into the Woods
Bird by Bird
Wild Nights
Sour Heart
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Aug 2, 2024 • 45min
Episode 544: Heather MacLean – 2020 Olympian in the 1500m on 2024 Olympic Trials Heartbreak and Overcoming Injury
Heather MacLean is a returning guest on the show and she was in Raleigh, North Carolina (where I live) for the Sir Walter Mile this week. So we got to record this interview in person, which is always exciting!!
Heather runs with Team New Balance Boston. She ran in the Tokyo Olympics in 2021 in the 1500. This year at the Olympic trials, she placed seventh in a record-breaking year. It took crazy records to make that 1500-meter team for Team USA. And although Heather placed seventh, she still ran a personal best time of 3:58. This result comes after a year full of injuries last year. She is coming off a stress fracture where she had to take six months off of training leading into the Olympic year. So it’s safe to say she is coming back and coming back strong. I am SO excited to see what she accomplishes over the next few years!
Heather has been on the podcast before, she was episode 337 when she came on right after she made her first Olympic team in 2021. So wow, it’s already been three years since she’s been on the podcast!!
Enjoy this conversation and go give Heather some love at the Sir Walter mile tonight!!
What we talked about:
4:00- How Heather is feeling leading into the Sir Walter Mile
8:00- Her feelings coming off of the Olympic Trials
13:30- The injury struggles that she’s had
25:45- What’s next for Heather
28:25- Her progression in the sport
32:05- Working with Mark Coogan as her coach
37:50- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Heather on Instagram
Heather on Episode 337
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Jul 26, 2024 • 34min
Episode 543: Maggie Malone Hardin – Professional Javelin Thrower; 2024 US Olympic Trials Champion & Three Time Olympian!
I am really excited to bring you another Olympian on the show today. My guest is Maggie Malone Hardin, who is heading to Paris to compete in the javelin throw for Team USA. Maggie is now a three-time Olympian. Maggie lives in Nebraska with her husband, Sam, who is her coach.
She was the 2016 American National and Collegiate record holder and NCAA Division One champion. She threw for Texas A&M University. She has a really amazing post-trial interview that just drew me in to her passion for this sport. We dove into that in this episode and it was such an interesting part of the conversation. She share about her battles where she nearly quit the sport and really had to check-in with herself about finding her why!
Maggie talks a lot about her faith, which seems to be a trending topic in these post-Olympic trials interviews with these athletes I’ve been talking to. It was also so much fun learning more about the javelin and her training. Let’s give these field event athletes some love!!
I love Maggie’s spirit and energy and I cannot wait to cheer for her in Paris. Go be bold, Maggie. We are all excited for you.
What we talked about:
5:20- How she is feeling coming off of the Olympic Trials
8:30- Mental health battles that she has faced in sport
10:30- Conversations about NIL deals and the landscape of college athletics
21:40- Specializing in sports
23:00- Qualifying for the Olympics
29:50- Being coached by her husband
32:45- Maggie’s day-to-day life and training
35:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Jennie Allen’s Podcast: Made for This
Annie F. Downs’ Podcast: That Sounds Fun
God Behind Bars
Tim Tebow Foundation
A Court of Thorns and Roses
Far Beyond Gold by Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone
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Jul 19, 2024 • 59min
Episode 542: Sierra Degroff – USATF 100 Mile & 24 Hour Champion Heading to Badwater 135
Today on the podcast, I have Sierra DeGroff on the show, introducing you to another ultra runner. I’m excited to share her story with you. This is an exciting time for Sierra as she’s racing Badwater next week!!
Sierra is a 100 mile USATF champion as well as a 24 hour USA champion. She started running ultras in 2015 and she’s really excelled at the 100 mile distance. She has a shot to win Badwater next week, it’s gonna be really exciting to see what she does.
She has run Badwater before and did not have the greatest experience, but she’s coming back to give it another shot. She’s run over a dozen hundred milers. She lives right outside of Las Vegas, Nevada, and also has a full time nine to five job. In this episode, she shares about all things running, working, and training for Badwater.
What we talked about:
2:45- Living in Las Vegas
8:45- Looking back on last year’s Badwater and what she’ll change for this year
13:10- How she got into the sport of ultrarunning
15:00- The ultras that she has run
20:00- The coach that she works with
24:20- Racing a half marathon
26:15- How she plans out her year of racing
30:00- What training ahead of Badwater looks like
43:20- Having fun amidst an ultra
46:40- Her goals in the sport and what she has learned
55:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Sierra on Instagram
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Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 541: Stephanie Garcia – Retired Professional Steeplechaser; Reflections on her Career, Retirement, Motherhood, and The Evolution of her Running
I’m so excited to have Steph Garcia joining us on the podcast. Stephanie is a retired steeplechaser for New Balance. She competed in the 2011 and 2015 World Championships for Team USA. In 2016, she placed fifth at the US Olympic trials.
She was part of Furman Elite after college and then went on to run with Kim Conley and drew Wartenberg and trained with Kim for a few years before retiring. Steph is now the mother to one. Since she has retired, she’s dabbled in some Spartan races and trail races a bit. She’s a run coach and works in communications for Collegiate Sports Associates.
It was so much fun to hear her reflections on her career and hear about her emotions during the Olympic Trials this year. I loved chatting with Steph and hope that you enjoy this episode!!
What we talked about:
2:30- Her feelings during the Olympic Trials and reflecting on her own experience
16:30- Her first marathon and running postpartum
28:00- Trail running
30:00- Obstacle course racing
41:50- Setting goals in this period of her life
36:30- Reflecting on her sponsorship with New Balance
39:25- Her decision to retire from professional running
47:45- Qualifying for the 2015 World Championships
56:45- Reflecting on all of her relationships with her coaches
1:00:45- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Steph on Instagram
Book recommendation:
Demon Copperhead
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Jul 5, 2024 • 45min
Episode 540: Kendall Ellis- U.S. 400M Champion on her way to the Paris Olympics!
Kendall Ellis won the 400m at the 2024 U.S. Olympic Track and Field becoming a National Champion and securing her spot to run the open 400 at the Paris Olympics. She PR’d in both the semi final and the final at the trials running a time of 49.46 in the final. This was her first PR in 6 years…. and you’ll hear in this episode she wasn’t so hung up on that at all over these years because there were so many wins along the way.
Kendall is an Olympic Gold Medalist in the 4X400 relay and an Olympic Bronze Medalist in the 4X400 mixed relay. She also competed in open 400m at the 2017 and 2019 World Championships where she won Gold in the 4X400 relay both times. Kendall is sponsored by New Balance and she ran for The University of Southern California where she was a 3X NCAA champion.
In this episode we talk about the race itself and those post race feelings as well as how she stays mentally focused and has learned to believe in the work she has been putting in over the last decade of competing. She also shares with us what her prayer was going into these races.
Please enjoy my conversation with Olympian Kendall Ellis!
Show notes:
Kendall on Instagram
Kendall Ellis Website
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