You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson

My guest today is Dr. Tina Peers, a UK-based naturopathic holistic practitioner with extensive experience treating long Covid, vaccine-related injuries, and mast cell activation syndrome. With over 40 years of clinical experience, Tina was early to identify the role of spike protein toxicity and immune dysregulation in post-Covid illness. In this episode, we explore how she helped patients recover using simple over-the-counter treatments at a time when public health authorities had not yet acknowledged the issue. Tina shares her own vaccine injury story, the rise in autoimmune and neurological conditions she has seen in her clinic, and a promising detox protocol using augmented NAC to help clear spike protein from the body. This is a must listen for anyone seeking answers to unexplained post-Covid symptoms or injuries following the jab. This episode is a powerful reminder of the need to question official narratives and take control of your health.►► I arranged a discount on the Augmented NAC from ZeroSpike, which Tina is referring to. Get 10% off with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (please note, this is not medical advice and you should consult your MD)► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson ►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Tina’s Twitter: https://x.com/DrTinaPeers Tina’s Website: https://www.drtinapeers.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –0:00 Coming Up…1:03 Introduction to Dr. Tina Peers & Her Mission3:25 Mast Cell Activation Syndrome: Explanation9:15 Ad Break: Trezor & BTC Prague10:40 Linking Covid, Cytokine Storms & Mast Cells17:20 Long Covid - A Rebrand of Mast Cell Activation?20:14 Is Covid a Novel Virus / Toxin?21:00 Clinical Observations of Covid Patients24:28 Shedding of Spike Protein - Pharma Companies Were Aware25:20 The Problem With Spike Protein26:15 Tina’s Personal Injection Injury & Regret33:20 Ad Break: Expat Money & Mattias Desmet Masterclass35:11 Common Injuries & Adverse Reactions; Clotting, Myocarditis, Cancer41:10 Spike Toxicity, Autoimmune Disruption, Sudden Deaths, SV4051:40 The Augmented NAC & Spike Detox Protocol57:05 Tina’s Recovery & Patient Results1:01:25 Where To Get The Augmented NAC1:02:40 Final Thoughts: Mission, Hope & Holistic Healing

My guest today is Alex Krainer, a geo-political analyst, commodity trading expert and founder of I-System Trend Following. This livestream was originally recorded on Substack on May 7th, 2025, where we discussed:Economic: Europe faces stagnating growth, high debt levels, and a challenging transition toward green energy. Deindustrialization risks, driven by high energy prices and overregulation, are pushing production out of the continent.Military & Security: Increased dependence on NATO and the U.S. persists despite growing calls for “strategic autonomy.” Military capabilities remain fragmented, and the war in Ukraine has exposed logistical and coordination weaknesses. Internal threats from radicalization, migration pressures, and social unrest are rising.Financial: Advancing towards greater financial centralization—digital euro projects, ECB control expansion, and tighter regulation under MiCA—all hint at diminishing national fiscal independence.Geopolitical: Externally, instability in neighboring regions (Eastern Europe, Middle East, North Africa) fuels geopolitical vulnerabilities.Governance: The EU is becoming increasingly technocratic, with power consolidating in Brussels. Democratic legitimacy is under strain as national sovereignty clashes with top-down policymaking, especially on digital, climate, and fiscal issues.Alex mentioned we’re heading towards a multi-polar integration reality, and reminded us all the importance of speaking out bravely, resisting and pushing back like your kids' lives are dependent on it. On the bright side, we stressed the importance of seizing the opportunities for multi-polar trade, low digital barriers of entry, developed communication protocols, decentralized solutions, permission-less solutions like Bitcoin etc., to liberate ourselves, promote self-sovereignty and a sense of agency.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson ►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Alex’s Twitter: https://x.com/NakedHedgie  Alex’s Substack: https://alexkrainer.substack.com/ Alex’s Website: https://isystem-tf.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson

My guest today is Mikkel Thorup, the founder and CEO of Expat Money, an expat consultancy company that focuses on helping clients to legally mitigate tax liabilities, obtain second residencies and citizenships, as well as make foreign investments, including international real estate. Raised in Canada and self-educated since the age of 12, Mikkel’s journey is anything but conventional. He’s lived in nine countries, visited over 110, and owns real estate in ten. His unique blend of lived experience and global expertise gives him an unparalleled perspective on freedom, sovereignty, and the tools needed to thrive outside failing Western democracies. In this episode, we dive into the philosophy of "planting flags", the idea of diversifying your life and assets across multiple jurisdictions to avoid being at the mercy of any one government. Mikkel walks us through the principles of perpetual travel, international tax strategy, second passports, and safe havens across Latin America and beyond. Tune in for Mikkel’s insights; an urgent wake-up call to prepare a Plan B before it’s too late.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS & AFFILIATES --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson ►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with ExpatMoney, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Mikkel’s Twitter: https://x.com/ThorupMikkel Expat Money Website: https://expatmoney.com/ Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –0:00 Coming Up…1:20 Introducing Mikkel Thorup and Expat Life4:06 Mikkel’s Global Background and Personal Journey6:30 Fragmentation of the World and Global Blocs12:00 Ad Break - Trezor & BTC Prague13:29 “Flag Planting”: Why It Matters Today20:00 Can Only the Wealthy Relocate?24:00 Residency & Citizenship: Time vs. Money Opportunity Cost26:00 Legal Rights of World Citizens 29:50 Passports Are A Recent, New Concept31:55 “Best Places To Live” & Criteria for Choosing a Second Country39:50 The Examples of Panama and Latin America44:22 El Salvador Insights49:44 Mikkel’s Mission and Passion For His Work55:50 Mikkel & Bitcoin56:50 A Call for Sovereignty and Having a Plan B1:00:00 A Plan B Can Be a Life Saver

My guest today is Ben Samocha, founder and CEO of CryptoJungle, a leading platform for Bitcoin education & Media in Israel. Ben shares his journey from using Bitcoin as a payment tool during his poker days to becoming an educator working with the public, regulators, and policymakers. In this conversation, we explore the role of Bitcoin in the broader financial and political landscape, and why education is essential these days. Ben analyzes the influence of global power shifts on monetary systems, and the emerging financial order involving stablecoins, CBDCs, and the potential for a new Bretton Woods moment. Ben outlines the dangers of institutional co-option, the Bank of Israel’s digital shekel, and why the coming years are critical for resisting centralized control and fostering a truly decentralized future.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Join us at BITCOIN VEGAS! May 27-29 - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://bit.ly/4jVtATE ►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT: https://bitcoininfinitystore.com/ ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Ben’s Twitter: https://x.com/bensamocha Ben’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-samocha/  Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up...01:15 Intro to Ben and His Role in Israel's Bitcoin Scene05:23 How Ben Orange-Pilled Efrat08:36 Trezor and BTC Prague10:03 Freedom, Censorship, and the Deeper Meaning of Bitcoin13:43 The Israeli Bitcoin Community: Criticism and Cultural Challenges17:34 Ben's Awakening to Fiat and Money Deceptions25:18 Discovering Bitcoin Through Poker32:34 Learning About Bitcoin Through Myths Debunking41:22 Why Is Ben Choosing 'Crypto'?50:35 Ben's Macro Outlook: World War III, Monetary Upheaval, Global Power Shifts57:35 Trump's Strategy and Tariffs1:01:11 The New Monetary Order: USD, Gold, Bitcoin, and the Next Bretton Woods1:11:26 Stablecoins - Another Pillar in the US' New Financial Infrastructure1:13:50 CBDCs - How They Tie Into the New Monetary Order1:23:56 Banking Role in a Bitcoin Reality1:25:38 Resistance to Institutional Adoption and Bitcoin's Growth1:27:41 Past Five Years Started the Great Awakening1:30:09 The Central Bank of Israel and the Digital Shekel (CBDC)1:39:00 Why Do the Next Five Years Matter? The Urgency of Education and Resistance1:42:30 Closing Thoughts, Hope and a Call to Action

My guest today is Gabriel Shipton, an Australian filmmaker and the half-brother of Julian Assange, founder of WikiLeaks. Gabriel has been a tireless advocate for his brother's release and a powerful voice for press freedom, free speech, and the right to dissent. From the Ecuadorian embassy to a maximum-security prison, Julian's 14-year ordeal became a global symbol for the criminalization of truth-telling. While his release was a major milestone, Gabriel warns that the fight is far from over, while reflecting on the emotional toll of Julian’s imprisonment and the bittersweet terms of his release, which involved pleading guilty to the very act of journalism. We explore the dangerous precedent this sets for free press worldwide and the need to secure a full pardon. We also dive into Gabriel’s connection to the Bitcoin community, a movement that stood firmly behind Julian, both financially and ideologically, and stress decentralized platforms such as Bitcoin & Nostr as freedom enablers.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Gabriel’s Twitter: https://x.com/GabrielShipton Gabriel’s npub: npub1dcgppk89h9flnffrznvhhj2vt9a0ym23ht5gk07l9j8m6l5k95qsze06js Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –0:00 Coming Up…1:05 Intro to Gabriel Shipton2:20 Stella Assange & Westminster Declaration [& Censorship]5:00 Julian Assange’s Release and Ongoing Legal Battle7:30 The Fight for a Pardon, Trump’s Role & Political Shifts in Julian’s Case12:20 USAID Exposé, Deep State, NGOs Funding & Journalistic Integrity16:17 When Was Gabriel’s Introduction to Bitcoin?18:00 Political Power of Bitcoiners and Their Ethos20:30 Navigating Between Political Engagement and Technological Freedom22:30 Gabriel’s Mission and Projects of Media and Speech24:30 Freedom of Speech as a Human Right28:00 The Power of Decentralized Protocols, inc. Nostr30:30 Julian’s Homecoming & Public Support32:45 Gabriel’s Words of Hope

My guest today is Peter Dunworth, a wealth strategist with over two decades in traditional finance, and now founder of The Bitcoin Adviser, a company helping investors buy, secure and manage their bitcoin. From a background in mortgage broking and family office advisory, Peter has become a trusted guide for those transitioning from fiat to Bitcoin. We sat down at Bitcoin Alive in Sydney to unpack the collapse of the fiat system, how Bitcoin restores financial integrity, and why recent moves like the SAB 121 repeal and strategic reserves are double-edged swords. Peter explains why banks may soon pay you to borrow, how Michael Saylor rewrote the rules of treasury management, and why Australia’s economy is quietly in freefall. This episode is an honest look at the future of money, the power of self-custody, and why Bitcoin remains the ultimate tool for financial freedom.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT ►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Peter’s Twitter: https://x.com/peterbtcadviserThe Bitcoin Advisor: www.thebitcoinadviser.com Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –[00:00] Coming Up…[01:22] Intro: Where is Bitcoin Adoption Today  [04:30] “You Don’t Change Bitcoin, Bitcoin Changes You”[03:08 The Evolution of Bitcoin and Its Community[07:54] Self Custody with Trezor[08:23] BTC Prague[08:40] The Double-Edged Sword of Government Involvement[13:47] Intro to Peter & The Bitcoin Adviser  [16:13] The Unsustainable Fiat System  [19:33] How Will Bitcoin Change The Monetary System  [22:05] Awareness Creation Via Shitcoins  [22:48] Are We Witnessing The Change of World Monetary Order?  [25:23] SAB 121: The Big News for Banking & Bitcoin  [31:38] Australia's MacroEconomics & Societal Changes  [37:43] MicroStrategy/Strategy’s Innovative Corporate Strategy  [42:03] Free Markets, Bonds & Bitcoin's Role  

My guest today is John Ruddick, a member of the Legislative Council of New South Wales (Australia) and the first representative of the Libertarian Party elected to Parliament. John is a fierce advocate for civil liberties, a staunch defender of free speech, and an unapologetic voice against government overreach. His journey from mortgage broker to politician is marked by his unwavering commitment to individual rights, decentralization, and liberty-first governance.From challenging Australia’s authoritarian COVID response to pushing for bold pro-Bitcoin legislation, John brings a radical yet refreshing perspective to modern politics. We dive into his banned maiden speech, his views on free speech and state power, and the philosophical roots of libertarianism. He breaks down why he believes government should shrink dramatically, how welfare could be radically reimagined through competition and compassion, and why Murray Rothbard’s anarcho-capitalism is the north star.► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn ►► Join me on June 19-21 at BTC Prague! Code EFRAT = 10% discount: https://pages.btcprague.com/ambassador-efrat-fenigson -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT.►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –John’s Twitter: https://x.com/JohnRuddick2 John’s inaugural speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw1zPTDEVxA Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:30 Introduction to John02:24 Covid-19 and the Response in Australia07:09 John's Maiden Speech in Parliament - Why Was It Censored?12:15 Free Speech, Government Overreach & Libertarianism25:45 C19 Plandemic Aftermath & Jab Damages in Australia36:45 Foundations & History of Libertarianism, inc. Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, Milton Fridman47:40 The Role of Government: A Debate on Anarcho-Capitalism53:50 Private Free Cities: A New Approach to Governance55:15 Libertarianism & Bitcoin: A Natural Alliance57:40 Libertarianism & Bitcoin in Australia - Separation of Money & State1:05:45 Macro View on the Australian Economy1:14:20 Australia's Political History: Lessons for the Future (from 1788 to 1898 to today)1:21:40 A Message of Hope from John

My guest today is Evelyn Lemus, co-founder of the Bitcoin Community Center, and circular economy initiative in Berlin, El Salvador. Evelyn’s inspiring journey showcases her unwavering dedication to grassroots Bitcoin education and community empowerment in El Salvador. Born and raised in the country, Evelyn has seen firsthand the challenges of economic instability and limited opportunities. In this conversation, she shares how she and her team transformed Berlin into a vibrant Bitcoin city, where over 140 merchants now accept Bitcoin for goods and services. She highlights the transformative power of Bitcoin as a tool for financial inclusion, savings, and opportunity, even amidst skepticism and limited resources. From onboarding merchants door-to-door to inspiring the next generation of Salvadorans through education, Evelyn's work demonstrates the potential of Bitcoin to empower communities and build a better future. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT.►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Evelyn’s Twitter: https://x.com/Evelynlemus2906 Bitcoin Berlin Twitter: https://x.com/BitcoinBerlinSV Bitcoin Berlin Geyser Project: https://geyser.fund/project/bitcoinberlinsv Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:04 Introduction03:08 Evelyn’s Journey into Building a Circular Economy in Berlin11:05 The History of Berlin, El Salvador13:56 Onboarding Merchants to Bitcoin19:06 Case Studies of Merchants Accepting Bitcoin in Berlin23:13 Do Salvadorans Want To Go Deeper with Bitcoin?28:41 Berlin’s Circular Economy Impacts El Salvador32:16 Which Bitcoin Wallets Salvadorans Use?  35:29 Future & Challenges for Bitcoin Berlin40:27 What Gives Evelyn Hope45:49 Changing Perceptions Around Bitcoin & Reclaiming Sovereignty53:38 Closing Thoughts

My guest today is Lawrence Lepard, the founder and managing partner of Equity Management Associates, a fierce advocate for sound money and a respected voice in the world of gold, Bitcoin, and monetary policy. He has dedicated his career to educating people on the dangers of fiat currency debasement and the importance of protecting wealth through sound money & alternative assets. His latest book, The Big Print, breaks down the coming monetary crisis in a way that anyone—whether a seasoned investor or an everyday person—can understand. In this conversation, Larry shares insights into how the current financial system is reaching a breaking point, why central banks are quietly hoarding gold, and why Bitcoin is the most important technological breakthrough in monetary history. We also dive deep into the inevitable shift toward alternative reserve assets, the long-term trajectory of Bitcoin, and why personal sovereignty through self-custody is more critical than ever. Enjoy! ► Get Larry’s book with a 10% discount using the code EFRAT ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT.►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Larry’s Twitter: https://x.com/LawrenceLepard Larry’s Book - 10% off with code EFRAT: https://bit.ly/4hDH7xF Larry’s Nostr npub: npub1d3f4m9dgvkdjxn26pqzsxn6lpfn78sxwllxyt8mp76q0a9zyyjlswhr4xvEfrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…01:31 Online Scams & Larry’s Ban from X09:18 Introduction to Larry10:49 Why Larry Wrote ‘The Big Print’18:39 When’s The Next Big Print?21:45 You’ve Always Lived In An Inflationary World25:06 Fiat Economies’ Tipping Point in Public’s Trust30:11 Media’s Protection of The Fiat Cartel33:08 Gold and Its Current Market Dynamics37:04 Will Bitcoin Replace Gold?41:14 Bitcoin’s Mindset Shift & The Real Opportunity for Change43:53 Will Bitcoin Survive?48:00 Networking Businesses as Investments 52:30 The Rise of Alternative Reserve Currencies to USD56:20 The New Monetary Order & Assets1:01:28 Larry’s Message Of Hope1:05:00 Larry’s Events Schedule

My guest today is Giacomo Zucco, Director of Plan B Network and a well-known Bitcoin maximalist. He's also an advisor/investor for OCEAN, Relai, Ark Labs, Twentytwo, Geyser, Lightning Ventures, Breez and more. He spends his time supporting projects that he feels might be relevant for the future of Bitcoin, be it as an educator, consultant, entrepreneur, maximalist, or troll. In this episode, we dive deep into Bitcoin’s ideological and technological battles, from the early days of monetary activism to today’s regulatory and institutional challenges. Giacomo unpacks the role of stablecoins and specifically USDT, explaining why it has become both a “useful scam” and a financial bridge for millions. We also touch on CBDCs, the future of financial decentralization, transhumanism and why Bitcoiners should remain cautious as institutions get involved. Please note Giacomo’s views do not represent Tether’s official views in any way. ► If you got value, please like, comment, share, follow and support my work. Thank you!-- SPONSORS --►► Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn -- SPECIAL OFFERS –►► Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat ►► Enjoy the Little HODLer products, learn about sound money while having fun! use code EFRAT for 10% off on non-sale items: https://thelittlehodler.com/ ►► 10% off on all books & accessories at the “Bitcoin Infinity Store” - use code EFRAT.►► Join me in any of these upcoming events: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events -- LINKS –Giacomo’s Twitter: https://x.com/giacomozucco Giacomo’s Nostr npub: npub1au23c73cpaq2whtazjf6cdrmvam6nkd4lg928nwmgl78374kn29sq9t53jPlan B Network Twitter: https://x.com/planb_network Plan B Website: https://planb.network/Mir’s Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMfe4C6auWo Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat's Telegram: https://t.me/efenigsonWatch/listen on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat's work: ⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/efenigson   ⁠Support Efrat with Bitcoin: https://geyser.fund/project/efenigson-- CHAPTERS –00:00 Coming Up…00:57 Introduction01:25 Giacomo’s Story and Background09:35 The Story Behind “Plan B Network”16:34 Tether - A Happy Accident or a Useful Scam? 26:51 Tether’s Audits & Conspiracy Theories of Pumping Bitcoin Price30:58 Tether’s Bet On Gold with XAUt32:26 Tether’s Tech & Investments Diversification32:58 Transhumanism & its Risks 37:04 The New Monetary Order: CBDCs,Stablecoins & Bitcoin43:22 The Evolution of Bitcoin's Ideological Landscape47:38 Giacomo’s Message of Hope