
Marketing For Learning®
The only podcast in the world that’s going to help you better understand marketing for learning® fundamentals and help you tackle your learner engagement problem once and for all! Hosted by Ashley Hinchcliffe and Hannah Clark, this podcast comprises of short bursts of learning and insights to help you embrace marketing tactics, strategies and thinking.
Marketing for learning.
It’s our business.
www.maas-marketing.co.uk
Latest episodes

May 18, 2023 • 11min
Ep 48 - Pavlov’s Dog & Modern Advertising
What's ol' Pavlov got to do with modern marketing? Well, as Ashley will show you, rather quite a lot. This short session explores the concept of classical conditioning and whether it's something L&D can leverage in their marketing to get autonomous responses out of learners.
Useful links:
Ashley's LinkedIn
MAAS' Marketing for Learning blog

May 3, 2023 • 18min
EP 47 - The Human Skill Of Marketing
Is marketing a human skill? It’s a question that Han was inspired to answer after The LPI’s latest Learning Live Networks event. And so she’s done just that, by having a one-woman debate live on the podcast. (We know… arguing with herself on a podcast… we always knew she was weird 🙃) But weirdness aside, Han takes a deep dive into the skills L&D needs to develop to accelerate their marketing efforts, so this is one not to be missed. Happy listening!

Apr 26, 2023 • 58min
Ep 46 - Storytelling with Nick Shackleton-Jones
If you haven't heard of NSJ, where have you been? 👀 Nick's an industry stalwart and has drastically shifted how we think in L&D. He's the author of 'How People Learn" (great book btw) and is responsible for coining the ‘courses to resources’ shift, the first general theory of learning (the Affective Context Model), and is now leading the way with the 5Di (human-centred learning design) approach.
He joined Ash recently to talk about all things marketing. We were hoping for heated debates, but these two brains were deeply aligned about the changes our industry needs to make, and most importantly, why we need to be doing more great marketing for learning®. T'is a great one - and hey, look, if you don't like the content just listen in for Nick's dulcet tones.
Nick's LinkedIn
Ash's LinkedIn
How People Learn book
Shackleton Consulting

Mar 21, 2023 • 55min
Ep 45 - UX Design in Learning with Paula Hughes
UX Design expert and award-winning learning designer, Paula Hughes, discusses the importance of UX design in learning, including personalized and self-driven experiences. They also explore understanding the emotional and human side of the target audience, the role of L&D professionals, and aligning learning and development with business goals.

Mar 7, 2023 • 10min
Ep 44 - Think Different
In this unique episode, Ash talks through one of Steve Jobs's most famous talks - where he introduces their new brand campaign 'Think Different'. It's a great view of why even big brands must eat, sleep and breathe their audiences and is well worth a listen. Cheers Steve.
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'Got Milk' campaign
Steve Jobs' Speech
Ashley's LinkedIn

Feb 28, 2023 • 14min
Ep 43 - Learner Engagement Essentials
What needs to be in place before your marketing can be effective? Here are Ash's views on what foundations you must establish in your learning function BEFORE your marketing for learning® efforts will actually deliver results.
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Ash's LinkedIn
MAAS blog
Marketing Masterclass Course

Feb 24, 2023 • 56min
Ep 42 - Future L&D Skills And The Role They Play In Building A Valuable EVP
Missed it live? Here's your chance to listen to Ash & Han talk to none other than Ed Monk (CEO, The LPI) and Serena Gonsalves-Fersch (Global Head of Talent & Academy, SoftwareONE).
In this session, these two industry heavy-weights discuss the value L&D offers to organisations, and L&D's role in employee attraction and retention. So grab a drink, sit back and settle in for 56 minutes of amazing discussion, laughs and light bulb moments.
Stay up to date, and be the first to know about upcoming live recordings, follow us on LinkedIn:
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Ashley Sinclair
Hannah Waddams

Feb 16, 2023 • 31min
Ep 41 - Data-led Marketing at Novo Nordisk with Peter Manniche Riber
We absolutely love talking to L&Ders who are getting Marketing for Learning right - and Peter Manniche Riber, Head of Digital Learning & Analytics at Novo Nordisk is no exception. Ash had the opportunity to chat with Peter about the data-led work his L&D team are undertaking and provides clear insights into how his team are using data to create personalised learning and marketing experiences.
It's a super interesting chat, jam-packed full of a brain that just approaches L&D differently. Happy listening!
Useful links:
Peter's LinkedIn profile
Ashley's LinkedIn profile
🤓 Liked this? Join our live podcast recording with Ed Monk and Serena Gonsalves-Fersch, Feb 21st, 3pm GMT.

Feb 13, 2023 • 17min
Ep 40 - Internal Comms: Friend Or Foe To L&D?
Internal Comms: The two words that make every* L&Der shudder when it comes to Marketing for Learning®. But it shouldn't be that way, and in this podcast, Han tells you why.
*Okay, it's a hyperbole, we know not every L&Der feels this way. But it's a solid 99%!
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Feb 3, 2023 • 49min
Ep 39 - Marketing for Learning® Course Taster
Interested in attending our Marketing for Learning® Masterclass, but not sure if it's for you? Listen to this webinar recording from Ashley, where she explains what it entails, what's involved and what you need to do to learn more about marketing for learning®.
If you want to watch it in video format, you can here (STRAP IN FOR PINEAPPLES 🍍): https://youtu.be/FCRbOuB7KwQ
If you want to sign up for the Masterclass you can here: https://www.thelpi.org/masterclasses/marketing-for-ld/
Hope you enjoy it!