
Startups For the Rest of Us
The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.
Latest episodes

Aug 18, 2020 • 35min
Episode 510 | The Story of Startups.com
Wil Schroter, CEO and founder of Startups.com, shares his two-decade journey in the startup ecosystem. He discusses the significance of prioritizing output over hours worked to achieve true productivity. Wil also dives into the financial implications of selling companies and the evolution from client services to product-based offerings. Key insights include the strategic advantages of acquiring existing products and the importance of aligning professional choice with personal values for fulfillment. His candid reflections on entrepreneurship and its challenges are both enlightening and engaging.

Aug 11, 2020 • 43min
Episode 509 | Revisiting the Six Stages of SaaS Growth with DNSimple
Anthony Eden, founder of DNSimple, shares his insights on navigating the six stages of SaaS growth. The conversation begins with the crucial pre-launch phase and progresses through achieving product-market fit. Eden discusses the importance of customer feedback in disrupting established markets and building a user-friendly experience. He also emphasizes celebrating milestones, the need for structured roles during scaling, and the role of community engagement in fostering growth. Finally, they touch on strategies for sustainability and innovation in SaaS.

Aug 4, 2020 • 35min
Episode 508 | Finding Marketing Channels, Seat-Limited Trials, Building a Brand, and More Listener Questions
Asia Orangio, an expert in marketing and brand building, shares her insights on navigating the complexities of startup marketing. They discuss strategies for identifying the right marketing channels and provide feedback on freemium pricing models. The conversation also delves into the importance of brand identity versus branding, highlighting personal experiences that shaped successful strategies. Finally, they cover decision-making frameworks for choosing between starting a business and joining a startup, emphasizing fulfillment and opportunity costs.

Jun 16, 2020 • 41min
Episode 501 | A Bluetick Update from Mike #Taber
Mike Taber, a SaaS entrepreneur and founder of Bluetick, shares valuable insights from his business journey. He discusses the uptick in interest during the COVID-19 pandemic and the unique partnership opportunities that have arisen. The conversation also touches on managing technical debt and the tough choices around code optimization. Mike reflects candidly on the highs and lows of the past few weeks, revealing his thoughts on optimism versus pessimism and the importance of community support in navigating these challenging times.

Jun 9, 2020 • 41min
Episode 500
This milestone episode celebrates a decade of insights on sustainable entrepreneurship. The hosts emphasize freedom, relationships, and customer focus over traditional fundraising. Listeners share heartfelt stories of growth and gratitude, showcasing the podcast's impact on their journeys. Discussions on aspirational pricing reveal strategies for driving business growth, while the concept of stair-stepping highlights how small ventures can lead to larger successes. Community support and authentic engagement are underscored as vital to navigating the startup world.

May 12, 2020 • 39min
Episode 496 | "The Press Covers Exceptions, Don't Compare Yourself to Slack or Zoom"
Colin Nederkoorn, co-founder of customer.io, is known for his unique approach to marketing automation, while his partner John brings expertise in analytics tools. They discuss their unconventional journey, starting with no savings and bootstrapping a SaaS app. Colin emphasizes the importance of balancing innovation with best practices and shares insights on building a remote team. The duo also highlights their commitment to supporting the bootstrapping startup community and reflect on early marketing strategies that helped them thrive.

Jan 14, 2020 • 27min
Episode 479 | Two-Sided Marketplaces, Hotseats, Forgotten Subscriptions, and More Listener Questions
Tracy Osborn, an insightful entrepreneur, joins to tackle a variety of listener questions. They dive into the complexities of launching two-sided marketplaces, sharing strategies for balancing marketing between businesses and consumers. The importance of mastermind groups and hot seat formats for collaborative problem-solving is highlighted. Additionally, they examine the ethical implications of forgotten subscriptions in the SaaS world, emphasizing provider responsibilities and the need for transparency with inactive users.

Jan 7, 2020 • 25min
Episode 478 | A Few Things I Learned in 2019
Reflecting on a family vacation, the host shares the refreshing impact of a four-day internet detox. Personal growth from 2019 goals is discussed, alongside the challenges every entrepreneur faces. The importance of work-life balance and effective delegation in managing startups highlights the evolution of leadership styles. Insights into navigating podcast growth and audience engagement showcase the importance of experimentation. As they look forward to 2020, gratitude for listener support underscores the journey ahead.

Dec 31, 2019 • 40min
Episode 477 | Assessing Product-Market Fit, How to Find a Mastermind, and More Listener Questions with Brian Casel
Brian Casel, associated with Audience Ops, dives into vital aspects of product-market fit and mastermind groups. He emphasizes the significance of qualitative insights over binary survey results, revealing how this can refine understanding of customer needs. Brian also discusses building competitive advantages for SaaS, the importance of user feedback in shaping software development, and the complexities of payment solutions for remote businesses. The conversation highlights strategies for partnerships and boosting personal branding in the entrepreneurial landscape.

Dec 24, 2019 • 48min
Episode 476 | “We Went from Hundreds of Free Trials to a Few Dozen...On Purpose” with Jordan Gal
Jordan Gal, the founder of CartHook, shares insights on his bold decision to transition from hundreds of free trials to a more elite demo approach. He discusses how strategic pricing and a focus on qualified customers significantly reduced churn rates. Gal reveals the challenges his team faced in refining onboarding processes and managing customer expectations. Ultimately, he highlights the importance of balancing empathy with profit in navigating shifts in market strategy, all while aiming for improved team morale and operational efficiency.