
Buddha at the Gas Pump
Conversations with spiritually awakening people.
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Oct 17, 2023 • 2h 11min
691. Jennifer Lisa Vest
Jennifer Lisa Vest, scientist, philosopher, and intuitive, discusses the importance of proper training in the spiritual genre. She explores early experiences with spirits, the significance of humility in psychic abilities, being sensitive to client needs, client dependency, and ethical considerations. Additionally, she explores manipulating others, the influence of magnetic auras, the purpose of gifts and traditions, misuse of sexual energy, ceremonies to help spirits move on, choosing teachers and colleagues, and ethics, balance, and healing energy.

Sep 27, 2023 • 1h 40min
690. Bill Witherspoon
Bill Witherspoon is a life-long visual artist, serial entrepreneur, and lover of sky. In his six decades, living on and off in the High Steppe desert in southeastern Oregon, he has painted watercolor skies, practiced ancient art as spiritual discipline, and weathered that pristine geological expanse.
As an artist, over the last four decades, Bill has mounted 40 one-man exhibitions of paintings, prints, and sculptures (1968 – 2020), in addition to desert public art projects. He is also the founder and Creative Director of The Sky Factory, a fine arts, digital technology, and cognitive science studio that designs and manufactures the world’s only research-verified virtual skylights—Luminous SkyCeilings and Luminous Virtual Windows.
His first book, Enter Space—Stories from the High Desert, lays witness to a life surrounded by that rare, unsummoned vastness; one that those of us steeped in the ceaseless churn of urban life can now imagine living through the faithful record of the artist’s experience.
Book: Enter Space: Stories from the High Desert
Sri Yantra: The Oregon Desert Mystery FULL MOVIE
Transcript and Summary of this interview
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group
Interview recorded September 3, 2023.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction and Background of Bill Witherspoon
00:04:49 - A Life of Adventure and Silence
00:09:25 - Being Swept Away by the Waterfall
00:12:52 - A Life-Threatening Water Rescue
00:16:34 - The Near-Drowning Experience That Changed My Life
00:21:02 - The Transcendent Experience of Meditation
00:24:35 - Climbing the Radio Tower and Facing Danger at Sea
00:29:01 - Seeing More Deeply
00:32:33 - Healing the Eye of the Heart
00:36:42 - The Burning Shell
00:40:15 - Learning and Growth through Perseverance
00:43:50 - The Sri Yantra: An Instance of a Law of Nature
00:48:10 - The Bindu
00:52:38 - The New Kind of Seeing
00:57:00 - The Essence of Memory and Love
01:01:06 - A Slideshow of Photographic Events in the Wilderness
01:05:39 - Living in Harmony with Rattlesnakes
01:08:46 - Witnessing Violence and the Impact
01:12:55 - Encounters with Rattlesnakes
01:16:22 - The Strange Book and its Contents
01:20:36 - The Presence of Divine Intelligence
01:24:30 - Accessing Deeper Levels of Consciousness through Meditation
01:32:35 - The Horrors of Being on Death Row
01:35:35 - The Influence of Human Presence
01:40:37 - "Goodbye," when we went looking for wild horses
01:44:58 - Reflections on an Interesting Life
01:49:33 - Going Deeper in Consciousness
01:53:02 - Building a Beautiful Corporation
01:56:56 - The Skill of Self-Reflection
02:00:18 - Gratitude and Farewell

Sep 13, 2023 • 1h 27min
689. Lorna Byrne
Spiritual teacher, international bestselling author and philanthropist Lorna Byrne has dedicated her life to remind humanity of the spiritual potential within us all. She is the author of seven best-selling books including Angels in My Hair, A Message of Hope From the Angels, and Angels at my Fingertips and has been published in more than 50 countries and 30 languages around the world.
Her teachings are the result of a remarkable gift, a divine connection providing her with incredible, detailed knowledge of the spiritual side of life. Unlike others this gift is not from meditation, visualisation or even from books or study, it exists as a natural part of her waking life. Lorna Byrne has physical sight of the unseen world, of the angels, spirits and other spiritual beings that she says are guiding and teaching us every second of every day. Lorna says we all have this potential and it is part of humanity’s evolution for people to connect back to their spiritual self so the body and soul intertwines.
Lorna’s vision of the future is one where there is no division or boundaries between people. Where our spiritual side is accepted and transcends all beliefs. To accept we are all one. To live in peace with each other and nature, our home.
Lorna is also a philanthropist and founder of the Lorna Byrne Children’s Foundation helping vulnerable and marginalised children across the globe and the Seraph Foundation which is developing Sanctuary her centre in County Kilkenny Ireland. In 2019, she was named as one of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People in the World.
Website: lornabyrne.com
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.
Transcript and summary of this interview
Interview recorded August 27, 2023.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Lorna Byrne and her Spiritual Teachings
00:03:56 - Interaction with Angels and Subtle Beings
00:08:16 - The Unconditional Love of Guardian Angels
00:11:06 - The Spark of Light: Angels, Humans, and Souls
00:14:20 - The Love between Humans and Animals
00:17:45 - God's Existence and Understanding Humanity
00:21:52 - Connecting with Nature and Ourselves
00:24:35 - Guardian Angels and Job Changes
00:27:16 - Overcoming Dyslexia and Writing a Bestseller
00:30:48 - The Importance of Hope and Faith
00:34:27 - Signs from Your Guardian Angel
00:36:54 - The Power of Kindness and Giving
00:40:17 - Listening to Your Guardian Angel
00:43:07 - The Role of Angels and Prayers
00:46:38 - Divine Guidance in Job Search
00:50:32 - An Encounter with Archangel Michael
00:53:54 - The Unemployed Angels
00:57:00 - Unemployed Angels and Acts of Compassion
00:59:23 - The Unemployed Angel
01:02:54 - The Concept of Conception
01:06:12 - Angels in Everyday Life
01:10:04 - Visits from Deceased Saints
01:13:45 - The Importance of Being Yourself and Believing in Guardian Angels
01:15:40 - Communicating with Children's Guardian Angels
01:18:20 - Living life to the fullest as a dyslexic person
01:21:40 - A Glimpse of Heaven
01:24:07 - Walking on Water and Miraculous Abilities
01:27:22 - The Power of Hope and Love
01:30:05 - Executives Connecting with Nature
01:32:16 - Building on to the Farmhouse
01:36:41 - Farewell and Well Wishes

Aug 30, 2023 • 1h 39min
688. Bob Harwood
Between the age of 20 and 40 I was consumed with a wide range of existential questions, but despite endless thinking and reading, I never found a single answer. Due to some business-related stress at the age of 40, I started a simple meditative exercise as a way to acquire some peace of mind, and within two weeks a major insight occurred that led to more meditative activities. Five months later a huge cosmic-consciousness event answered seven of my questions and catapulted me into a different reality. I then concluded that all answers were "within," and for the next 15 years I went on silent meditation retreats with Christians, Buddhists, and Advaita groups during which all of my other questions got answered. Nevertheless, I still did not feel free. Then, a new question arose, "How is it possible to stay in a unity-conscious state of mind permanently rather than oscillating between a sense of selfhood and no-self?" In 1999, after a deep experience of gratitude on a solo hiking retreat, "the little guy in the head" (the sense of a personal "me") totally vanished, and the result was freedom, contentment, and understanding.
Book: Pouring Concrete: A Zen Path to the Kingdom of God – Expanded Edition
Bob's email
Transcript and summary of this interview
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group
Interview recorded August 19, 2023
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump00:04:43 - Questioning Beliefs and Exploring Existential Questions00:08:25 - The Journey of Seeking Answers in Zen Philosophy00:12:17 - The Shift in Perception00:16:07 - A Reality Shift00:19:54 - The End of the Construction Company00:24:03 - Realization of the Incomprehensible00:28:16 - Simple answers to Zen riddles00:32:17 - Finding Freedom in the Middle of Responsibilities00:35:50 - Questioning Selfhood and Freedom in the Mountains00:38:59 - The Dissolution of the Sense of Self00:42:30 - The True Self and Identity00:46:00 - The Silence of the Mind00:49:19 - Non-Abidance in the Mind00:52:39 - The Kingdom of God Inside and Outside of You00:55:59 - Shifting Attention Beyond the Mind01:02:47 - The Benefits of Practice and Reconfiguration01:06:16 - The Natural Inclination to Help Others01:09:50 - The Depth of Awakening01:13:12 - Falling Asleep During Meditation01:16:26 - Realizing the Irrelevance of a Silent Mind01:20:00 - Seeking Benefit in the Present Moment01:23:32 - Intuition and the Home of All Knowledge01:27:00 - Knowing and achieving specific things in life01:30:50 - The Blissful State on the Deathbed01:34:07 - Embracing the Unknowable Future01:37:31 - The Universal Sound01:40:44 - The Challenges of Maintaining Friendships01:48:00 - Wrapping Up with Bob

Aug 3, 2023 • 1h 47min
687. Carter Phipps
Carter Phipps is the author of Evolutionaries and coauthor of the Wall Street Journal Bestseller Conscious Leadership with John Mackey and Steve McIntosh. He is co-founder of the Institute for Cultural Evolution, which addresses political polarization though focusing on the cultural roots of America’s challenges. He hosts the Thinking Ahead podcast and is a former award-winning journalist and executive editor of What Is Enlightenment? Magazine. His website is http://www.carterphipps.com.
Essay we discussed in the interview: Mysticism and Its Discontents: Does Spiritual Illumination Create its own Intrinsic Blindness?
Summary and Transcript and of this interview
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group
Interview recorded July 29, 2023
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:03:50 - The Paradox of Spiritual Teachers' Behavior
00:07:52 - The Subtleties of Enlightenment and the Dangers of Blind Spots
00:11:24 - The Complications of Spiritual Awakening
00:14:40 - Defining Enlightenment
00:18:42 - Strengths and Weaknesses in Areas of Genius
00:22:31 - The Transformative Power of Mystical Awakening
00:26:15 - The Tradeoffs of Enlightenment
00:29:31 - Levels of Reality and Integration
00:35:06 - The Goal of Our Own Practice
00:37:33 - Delusion in Deep Mystical Experience
00:41:43 - The Path of Renunciation and Self-Brainwashing
00:45:46 - The Complex Psychology of Seeking Enlightenment
00:50:24 - The Evolution of Culture and Consciousness
00:55:17 - The Dangers of Unhealthy Self-Doubt and Lack of Self-Criticism
00:59:32 - The Delusion of Pure Motive
01:03:22 - The Dangers of Spiritual Confidence
01:08:15 - Blurring the Line between the Spiritual and Manifest World
01:14:10 - The Interface between Science and Spirituality
01:17:50 - The Tradition of Debate and Mythical Stories
01:21:35 - The Power and Deception of Inner Intuition
01:25:41 - The Relationship Between Enlightenment and Psychological Instability
01:28:35 - Psychological Traces and Vulnerability to Mystical Experiences
01:31:49 - Spiritual Breakthroughs and Psychological Breakdowns
01:35:11 - The Role of Responsible Psychedelic Therapists
01:39:44 - The Importance of Understanding Cultural Evolution and the Adjacent Possible
01:45:18 - The Myth of the Perfect Enlightened Figure
01:50:09 - The Importance of Understanding the Self-Structure
01:55:00 - The Importance of Questioning Spiritual Myths and Beliefs
01:59:38 - Being Discerning and Questioning
02:07:06 - Future Teaching and Updates from Carter Phipps

Jul 19, 2023 • 1h 43min
686. Dr. Etta D. Jackson
Dr. Etta D. Jackson was born in Kingston, Jamaica and migrated to the USA as a student in 1965. For twenty-five years she worked in education and retired in 1994 to travel. She has authored four books:
Understanding Your Choice
Unveiling the Secrets of the Feminine Principle
The Role of Consciousness in Governance
The Idea That Is the United States of America-Its Occult Foundation
Audible.com versions:
Understanding Your Choice
Unveiling The Secrets Of The Feminine Principle
She founded an international NGO non-profit organization, The Institute for Conscious Global Change (ICGC) in 2007 to assist the United Nations and Member States in eradicating extreme poverty through development. ICGC is in Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC) of the United Nations. Etta holds a BA in Biology, MS degrees in Guidance and Counseling and in Administrative Leadership and Supervision. Etta holds a Ph.D. in Leadership and Change from Antioch University. She has one daughter and one grandson.
Website
Etta's blog, where she writes on many topics including mysticism and occultism.
Mentioned during the interview: Builders of the Adytum
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group
Summary and Transcript of this interview
Interview recorded July 8, 2023
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:05:26 - Communicating with the Light
00:10:30 - Receiving Instructions from the Light
00:14:41 - Writing in London with the Golden Light
00:18:55 - The Back Story of Dr. Whitworth
00:23:57 - A Divine Encounter
00:29:44 - The Divine Feminine Unveiled
00:34:54 - Understanding Your Choice
00:39:40 - Mysticism vs. Occultism
00:45:03 - The Occult Knowledge of Ancient Religions
00:49:50 - Transitioning into the Aquarian Age
00:54:20 - The Authenticity of Experience and the Role of Older Souls in Guiding the Young
00:58:34 - A Relationship Based on Mutual Respect
01:03:33 - The Symbolism of the Journey to Jerusalem
01:08:51 - The Journey of Knowledge and Experience
01:14:00 - The Paradox of Good and Evil
01:18:49 - The Purpose of the Earth Experiment
01:24:23 - Embracing Change and Shifting Paths
01:29:07 - Understanding the Power of the Mind
01:33:59 - The Inner Lodge and the Role of Consciousness in Governance
01:38:13 - Masonry and Divine Inspiration
01:43:21 - Developing your Relationship with Yourself
01:47:47 - Kneeling at the Feet of the Soul
01:52:56 - Wrapping Up the Interview

Jul 6, 2023 • 1h 51min
685. Lucy Grace, 2nd Interview
Lucy was raised in a low socioeconomic household and neighborhood, by a young single mother in New Zealand in the early 1980s.
The lack of resources available in childhood resulted in a shrinking of her outer world to what she thought of – years later - as a kind of welfare-child ashram. Within the home, and outside of it, there were few distractions or ability to go anywhere else, and significant trauma – all forcing her to go within to what she thought of as “the deep stillness and light inside” to rest, find nourishment, solace, and strength.
At 19 she experienced her first shift, seeing through the personality, and subtle perceptions revealing themselves.
She never thought much of it, there had already been so much light inside, and she was so thrilled to be in the world finally so she simply went on with living.
After a brief stint in television journalism, Lucy spent 15 years in Europe and New Zealand working for international humanitarian aid agencies.
On return to NZ at age 31, she suddenly became extremely ill. For six months, she was mostly bedridden. Doctors, both natural and traditional, could not find the source of the illness.
Over the next few years, she had to work to earn an income but there was no strength for much else. The pain in her body was ever-present, and the fear of not knowing if this was her life forever now, was sometimes crippling.
She was forced to exist in a kind of in-between world again - of much aloneness and silence, aside from work.
After a few years of significant illness, she recovered strength enough to live a semi-normal life. But any time she tried to do too much, she was knocked back into illness.
By 35 she was in a leadership role at a non-profit, married, with a baby on the way, just surviving day-to-day with the pressure on her physical body.
On becoming a mother, she was plunged into a level of blackness that was completely shocking and previously unknown.
For more than two years she descended into complete separation and couldn’t hear the guidance that had always accompanied her in her life. For the first time ever she couldn’t feel God.
In 2018, after more than two years of immense struggle, an unexplainable and absolute surrender took place within, in a moment, as her two-year-old cried and reached for her.
Within two months she had left the career she loved to rest in what she thought of as silence. For around a year and a half, she couldn't do much else.
Lucy had never been exposed to spirituality, nor did she know anything about its concepts or traditions. She thought meditation was for “those hippy people.”
Because there had been no conscious spiritual search, she had no context for what was happening. Often it was so beautiful and joyful – she didn’t need to know. There was an innate sense of trust and recognition that went beyond what needed to be seen or understood with the mind.
When the need to understand did arise - some online searches helped a little, but often it all felt overwhelming, and she preferred sitting in silence to hear from within. Guidance and teaching were always present and given through hearing and images. Despite this, when particularly strange things would occur the need for the mind to understand would return.
One night in 2019, before sleep, in heartfelt prayer she asked for help to cut through all the online noise and finally really grasp what was going on. There was a felt sense of need for community.
As she was awakening in the morning, she heard the words “Buddha at the Gas Pump”. Lucy says, "I was stumped. I had no idea what that meant, but Googled it and found BatGap. As a result, my life has changed. Over the years BatGap has supported me deeply in the process – nurturing trust and allowing everything to unfold as it wants to."
From then until now, Lucy has been called over and over into deeper surrender. She has had further shifts and many clearings. Her career of 15 years,

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Jun 14, 2023 • 1h 51min
684. Chris Niebauer
Chris Niebauer earned his Ph.D. in cognitive neuropsychology at the University of Toledo, specializing in the differences between the left and right sides of the human brain. He is the author of No Self, No Problem: How Neuropsychology Is Catching Up to Buddhism and The No Self, No Problem Workbook: Exercises & Practices from Neuropsychology and Buddhism to Help You Lose Your Mind. He was a professor at a state university in Pennsylvania for 22 years, where he taught courses on consciousness, mindfulness, left- and right-brain differences, and artificial intelligence.
Website: chrisniebauerphd.com
YouTube Channel
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group
Summary and transcript of this interview
Interview recorded June 3, 2023
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:06:21 - Disappointment with Daniel Dennett's book on consciousness
00:11:55 - The Value of Intelligence and Happiness
00:17:39 - The Dominance of Language in Reality
00:23:31 - Breaking the Cycle of Mental Excitation
00:29:04 - Non-Thinking Forms of Consciousness
00:34:24 - The Power of Numbers and Abstractions
00:40:01 - Observing the Interpreter and Letting Go of Intrusive Thoughts
00:45:55 - The Need for a Tiny Shift
00:51:17 - The Inventive Storytelling of the Left Brain
00:57:17 - Holistic Development of the Brain
01:02:52 - The Playfulness of Debates and the Power of Music
01:08:41 - The Nature of Skepticism and Strange Beliefs
01:14:25 - The Shift to Right Brain Awareness
01:19:53 - The Left Brain on Trial
01:25:32 - Individual Paths and Categorization
01:31:05 - Liberation and the Illusion of Self
01:36:54 - The Paradox of the Soul and Individuality
01:43:02 - Embracing Paradoxes
01:48:22 - The Connection between Light and Consciousness
01:53:31 - The Role of Faith in Materialism and Consciousness Studies
01:58:37 - The Inadequacy of Neuroscience
02:03:46 - The Limitations of Understanding and Balance in Life

May 27, 2023 • 1h 41min
683. Jeff Carreira
Jeff Carreira is a meditation teacher, mystical philosopher and author who works with a growing number of people throughout the world. As a teacher, he offers retreats and courses guiding individuals in a form of meditation he refers to as The Art of Conscious Contentment. Through this simple and effective technique, he has led thousands of people in a journey beyond the confines of fear and self-concern into the expansive liberated awareness that is our true home.
As a philosopher, Jeff is interested in defining a new way of being in the world that will move us from our current paradigm of separation and isolation into an emerging paradigm of unity and wholeness. In his books and lectures, he explores revolutionary ideas in the domains of spirituality, consciousness, and human development. He creates courses and programs that encourage people to question their most foundational experience of reality until previously held assumptions fall away leaving space for a dramatically new understanding to emerge.
Jeff is passionate about the potential ideas have to shape how we perceive reality and how we live together. His enthusiasm for learning is infectious, and he has taught at colleges and universities throughout the world.
Jeff is the author of numerous books including:
The Path of Spiritual Breakthrough: From Awakening to Cosmic Awareness
American Awakening: Evolutionary Spirituality, Non-Duality, and Free Thinking in the Tradition of American Philosophy
Philosophy Is Not a Luxury: Four Reasons to Start Thinking About How You Think
The Soul of a New Self: Embracing the Future of Being Human
Paradigm Shifting: Guiding Evolution from the Inside
The Art of Conscious Contentment
Website: jeffcarreira.com
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.
Summary and transcript of this interview.
Interview recorded May 20, 2023.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction and Background
00:05:24 - Discovering Conscious Contentment
00:11:12 - The Influence of Past Experiences
00:18:53 - The Bright, Clear Awareness
00:26:00 - The End of Seeking: Letting Go and Contentment
00:32:29 - Letting go in Meditation
00:40:10 - Overcoming Sleepiness in Meditation
00:45:28 - Lucid Dreaming and Spiritual Experience
00:49:39 - Interpreting Spiritual Experiences
00:54:07 - The Role of Interpretation in Spiritual Progress
01:00:44 - Exploring New Paths and Spiritual Growth
01:04:51 - P.D. Ospensky and Cosmic Consciousness
01:10:53 - Embracing Creative Expression
01:16:32 - Expressing Ourselves and Taking a Break
01:21:24 - "Partners on the Spiritual Path"
01:29:07 - The Effects of "Crazy Wisdom" Teaching
01:34:21 - The End of an Experiment
01:38:12 - Transparency and Spiritual Integrity
01:41:57 - The Intensity of Spiritual Practice
01:46:09 - Spiritual Experiences and Seeking Alone in the Mountains
01:49:01 - Embracing the Opportunities in Your Circumstances
01:54:02 - The Middle Realms of Being
01:58:23 - The Importance of Non-Dual Awakening & the Advaita Tradition
02:02:10 - Higher Realms of the Soul

May 17, 2023 • 2h 4min
682. Jill Bolte Taylor
Dr. Jill Bolte Taylor is a Harvard trained and published neuroanatomist who is now affiliated with the Indiana University School of Medicine, Department of Neurology. In 1996 she experienced a severe hemorrhage in the left hemisphere of her brain causing her to lose the ability to walk, talk, read, write or recall any of her life. Her memoir, My Stroke of Insight, documenting her experience with stroke and eight-year recovery spent 63 weeks on the New York Times nonfiction bestseller list. Her most recent 2021 book is WHOLE BRAIN LIVING: The Anatomy of Choice and the Four Characters That Drive Our Life.
Dr. Taylor is a dynamic teacher and public speaker who loves educating all age groups, academic levels, as well as corporations about the beauty of our human brain and how we can work with ourself to live a more peaceful life. In 2008 she gave the first TED talk that ever went viral on the Internet, which now has well over 28.5 million views. Also in 2008, Dr. Taylor was chosen as one of TIME Magazine's “100 Most Influential People in the World” and was the premiere guest on Oprah Winfrey’s “Soul Series” web-cast.
Website: drjilltaylor.com
Dr. Taylor's "My Stroke of Insight" TED talk
Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.
Summary and transcript of this interview
Interview recorded May 14, 2023.
YouTube Video Chapters:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:05:33 - The Evolutionary Goal of Humanity
00:11:07 - The Experience of the Present Moment
00:17:04 - Developing the Whole Brain
00:23:18 - Understanding the Dynamics of Relationships
00:28:43 - Understanding Character Two and Emotional Pain
00:33:33 - Understanding the Little Character Two
00:38:03 - The Richness of Human Emotions
00:42:05 - Autism and Brain Circuitry
00:47:10 - The Potential Risks of Whole Brain Living and Psychedelics
00:52:44 - Exploring the Options for Bipolar Disorder and PTSD
00:59:58 - The Beauty of Humor
01:07:06 - The Interface of Individuality and Universality
01:16:07 - Bringing Balance and Meaning Into Life
01:25:16 - The Differences in Perception and Information Processing
01:32:07 - The Absurdity of Language and Consciousness
01:37:18 - The Value Structure of Character Four
01:44:01 - Changing the Model of Enlightenment
01:48:18 - The Existence of Free Will
01:53:44 - The Subtle Work of Cells and Neuronal Networks
01:59:21 - The 90-Second Rule & Addiction in the Brain
02:04:19 - Exploring Selective Mutism and Addiction
02:11:27 - Dealing with Fear of the Future and Worry
02:17:51 - Farewell and Thank You