I was interviewed by Angelo Dilullo, who has been on BatGap. Angelo's: BatGap interview YouTube Channel Points discussed: My spiritual history. The TM program The importance of integration and stabilization on the spiritual path. The value of spiritual development in unfolding our full potential. About Amma (Mata Amritanandamayi) The masculine and feminine aspects of spirituality. Compassion, kindness, generosity, and such qualities as expressions of holistic spiritual development. The Association for Spiritual Integrity and the importance of ethics on the spiritual path. What is the best spiritual practice? Are there any detrimental practices? (Psychedelics? Neo-Advaita?) Harmful teachers? The qualifications for being a spiritual teacher and the importance of discerning between qualified and unqualified teachers. The importance of humility and genuineness in teachers. We all have different roles to play. Awakened people aren’t necessarily teachers and don’t necessarily use spiritual terminology. The relevance of channeling, mediumship, etc. to spirituality. Different dimensions of reality. “God” as an unbounded self-interacting ocean of consciousness. We are characters with some improvisational latitude in the Divine Play. The playwright has our best interest in mind. Staying aligned with the Divine “stream”. Trusting your instincts. Global problems are symptomatic of the quality of collective consciousness which is trending toward awakening, perhaps as a response to the dire nature of these problems. The cumulative nature of spiritual practice. Recommended books. The importance of where you put your attention. The complimentary relationship between knowledge and experience. The importance of taking the first step on the spiritual path, and one thing will lead to the next. Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded December 20, 2022 Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

Jude Currivan, Ph.D., is a cosmologist, futurist, planetary healer, author, member of the Evolutionary Leaders Circle, and previously one of the most senior business women in the UK. She has a master’s degree in physics from Oxford University specializing in quantum physics and cosmology and a doctorate in archaeology from the University of Reading researching ancient cosmologies. She has travelled extensively, worked with wisdom keepers from many traditions and is a life-long researcher into the nature of reality and consciousness. She is the author of seven books, most recently The Cosmic Hologram (2017), and The Story of Gaia: The Big Breath and the Evolutionary Journey of Our Conscious Planet (2022) and is co-founder of WholeWorld-View. Summary and Transcript of this interview Websites: wholeworld-view.org judecurrivan.com Earlier books: CosMos: A Co-creator's Guide to the Whole World The 13th Step: A Global Journey in Search of Our Cosmic Destiny The 8th Chakra: What It Is and How It Can Transform Your Life The Wave : A Life Changing Journey into the Heart and Mind of the Cosmos Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group First BatGap interview with Jude Interview recorded December 10, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:02:09 - About Jude Currivan 00:04:04 - My First Multidimensional Experience 00:06:06 - Awakening to the Living Universe 00:08:13 - Reconsidering Francis Bacon's Intention 00:10:35 - The Journey of Scientific Exploration 00:12:27 - The Evolutionary Journey of Our Conscious Planet 00:16:09 - The Incredible Abilities of Slime Mold 00:18:37 - Complex Behavior and Informational Flows 00:21:29 - The Evidence of the Cosmic Hologram 00:26:26 - The Evidence of Quantum Mechanics and Relativity 00:29:01 - The Non-Locally Unified Universe 00:32:19 - The Unified and Intelligent Universe 00:37:33 - The Holographic Principle and the Pixelation of Reality 00:42:43 - The Fundamental Cosmic Intelligence 00:47:45 - The Universe as an Evolutionary Learning Process 00:52:32 - The Meaningful Information of the Universe 00:57:03 - The Evolutionary Arc and Interconnectedness 01:00:23 - Awakening from the Illusion of Separation 01:03:24 - The Fine-Tuned Beginning of the Universe 01:07:33 - The Fundamental Laws of Infodynamics and the Co-Creation of the Universe 01:10:47 - Darwin's Perspective on Mutations 01:12:06 - The Distortion of Darwinism and Materialism 01:14:32 - The Intelligent Nature of Biological Organisms and Living Beings 01:17:23 - The Gaia Sphere and the Story of Our Universe 01:20:03 - Gaia: A Living, Conscious Being 01:22:29 - The Reality of Unity in the Story of Gaia 01:24:53 - The Futility of Trying to Predict the Future 01:26:46 - Human life in attunement with divine intelligence

Robin was born and raised in the US with a very religious and schizophrenic mother as well as a violent and atheist father. At 14, Robin started volunteering with various non-profits organizations and traveling the world, two lifelong passions which led her to work with dozens of NGOs and travel to nearly 100 countries. After spending several years in the US Air Force, Robin was kicked out for being lesbian which led to her new life as an activist. At 24, she started Kranti, an NGO that empowers survivors of trafficking and daughters of sex workers from Mumbai's red-light areas, where she lived and worked for a decade. In 2020, Robin moved to a mud hut at 13K feet in the Himalayas without any water, electricity or toilet. For over a year, she wasn't online, didn't read any book and didn't speak with anyone. In July 2021, she started working part time from the mountains and became a certified BatGap addict. She returned to civilization in August 2022. The spiritual routine at Kranti: Our house is a mix of girls who have been raised Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Christian, and Jain. We are extremely mindful of integrating all of these traditions (as well as a few others like Sikhism) into our daily lives as well as our travel experiences. Just to give you an idea, some of the places we make sure to take all Kranti girls are: Golden Temple in Amritsar, Dalai Lama's temple in McLeodganj, Nizamuddin's shrine in Delhi, St. Thomas' basilica in Chennai, Haji Ali's shrine in Mumbai, as well as dozens of famous Hindu temples around India. All of the girls are required to attend 10-day Vipassana courses, either the programs specifically for teens or on their own after age 18, as well as Buddhist philosophy courses at Tushita Meditation center. We are connected to quite a few spiritual leaders here, and the Dalai Lama's translator, as well as Sri M, are regular visitors at the Kranti home. But most importantly, yoga and meditation are the first activities of the day at Kranti School, along with daily journaling and writing gratitude letters every morning. All of the girls have a therapist through a Mumbai-based organization called Inner Space where all therapists and clients are trained in mindfulness based cognitive therapy. Kranti's website: kranti-india.org Kranti's Instagram page Kranti's Facebook page Donating to Kranti: Kranti Home and School Fundraiser savethechild.org Tax exempt for US donors.) Milaap: Help the Survivors of Trafficking (India-based, doesn't deduct fee. Not tax exempt for US donors.) Donating to Happy Feet Home (hospice for terminally ill children) Contact Robin PDF with more info about Robin, her upcoming book, and Kranti Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Transcript of this interview Interview recorded November 20, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:05:40 - The Motivation of Kranti 00:10:15 - Childhood Memories and Spiritual Moments 00:15:03 - Childhood Curiosity and Spiritual Exploration 00:19:28 - The Age of 12: Dreams, Stealing, and Non-Existence 00:24:21 - The Key Players in My Journey 00:29:01 - The Unstoppable Desire 00:33:48 - Overcoming Challenges and Unexpected Help 00:37:57 - A Moment of Realization and Gratitude 00:42:55 - The Impact of Extraordinary Girls and Gender Inequality in India 00:47:49 - Taking in the Kids 00:52:43 - Unexpected Meeting in Glastonbury 00:57:30 - The Neo-Advaita Movement 01:02:28 - The Beauty of Seeing People in Their Perfection 01:07:05 - The Purpose of Life and Finding Happiness 01:11:23 - From Sex Worker to Drum Circle Facilitator 01:15:57 - The Generosity of an Illiterate Sex Worker 01:20:41 - Compassion in the Red Light Area 01:25:10 - Girl's Perception and Plans for the Future 01:29:30 - Supporting Children in Mumbai 01:33:36 - The Value of Love and Support

Neil Douglas-Klotz is an internationally known scholar in the fields connecting religious studies (comparative Semitic hermeneutics) and psychology as well as a poet and musician. He is the author of Prayers of the Cosmos, Desert Wisdom, The Hidden Gospel, and The Genesis Meditations as well as coauthor of The Tent of Abraham with Sr. Joan Chittister and Rabbi Arthur Waskow. He is the past chair of the Mysticism Group of the American Academy of Religion and is active in various international colloquia and conferences dedicated to peace and spirituality. Website: abwoon.org Amazon Author's Page, listing all of his books Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group Transcript of this interview Interview recorded November 5, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Neil Douglas-Klotz 00:03:29 Neil’s background 00:04:40 - A Childhood of Alternative Beliefs 00:09:22 - How I Made Major Life Decisions 00:12:20 Aramaic, Sanskrit, Sound and Meaning 00:13:42 - The Connection Between Language and Objects 00:15:54 Chanting, mantra and the evolution of consciousness 00:17:47 - Human Consciousness and Modern Life 00:20:34. Changing the cultural paradigm of materialism 00:21:52 - Separation from Family Conditioning 00:22:09 Yeshua's healings and the culture of his time. 00:24:14 Did Jesus exist? 00:26:29 - The Transmission History of the Gospels 00:26:55 How and when were Jesus' words first written down? 00:30:22 - The Origins of Aramaic and Greek in Jesus's Vicinity 00:31:11 Aramaic and Greek at Jesus' tme. 00:33:04 Hundreds of early gospels. 00:34:50 - The Origins of Christian Creeds 00:35:49 Modern Christian religion and politics. 00:37:03 Neil's new book Revelations of the Aramaic Jesus: his method and texts 00:39:04 - The Translation of Scriptures 00:39:10 The King James Version of the Bible 00:40:27 "What would Jesus do?" 00:43:29 - The Connection to the Source of the Self 00:44:10 Evolution of Neil's work 00:45:07 "I am the way, the truth and the life...." 00:47:50 - The Meaning of "Hayye" 00:50:15 Jesus' miracles and healings, and early human consciousness. 00:52:13 - Healing through Connection to the Unseen 00:54:15 The important Aramaic words usually translated "good" and "evil" 00:56:50 - Ripening in the Breath 00:59:50 Jesus and prayer, with and without words 01:00:45 - Entraining with the Teacher's Consciousness 01:03:01 Worst mistranlation that empowers colonialism and ecocide. 01:04:49 - The Injustices of the World 01:06:56"Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven..." 01:08:57 - The Interconnection of Inner and Outer Life 01:09:09 The "sin against the Holy Ghost." 01:12:06 The Aramaic "lord's prayer" in brief 01:14:37 - Hollowing oneself for resonance with the cosmos 01:18:57 - The Aramaic Prayer of Dedication 01:20:39 Conversion, "saving the soul" or the soul saving you 01:23:18 - The history of Christianity and religion's impact 01:23:40 Snake handling? 01:25:28 "I and my father are one." 01:27:25 - The Living Togetherness with the Creating Source 01:29:38 "omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent? 01:30:45 "only begotten son" 01:31:36 - Jesus, the Cross, and Trust 01:35:05 "Did Jesus die on the cross?" 01:35:40 - The Possibility of Jesus' Survival on the Cross 01:37:53 Seeing angels or beings from other faiths 01:39:04 Jung's "Christian yoga" 01:39:44 - Awakening and Healing with Neil Douglas-Klotz 01:40:56 "original sin" 01:43:46 "judge not lest you be judged" 01:43:57 - Finding Your Path in Life 01:45:51 What is mine to do? 01:47:47 Jesus suffering 01:48:12 - The concept of pain and suffering in Christianity 01:50:32 "let him who is without sin cast the first stone" 01:52:02 - Tangled Relationships and Casting Stones 01:54:19 the "house divided against itself"

Anastasia is a Reiki Master Teacher, Meditation Coach, Intuitive Life Coach, Corrective Exercise Specialist, Fitness Nutrition Specialist, and a self-proclaimed recovering Zumba Instructor that has turned her lifelong pursuit of holistic wellness into a thriving holistic wellness practice, offering services online, and at her wellness studio located outside of Chicago. After dozens of profound spiritual experiences and a life-changing NDE in 2019, Anastasia holds a fundamental understanding that unconditional love is our natural state of being. With a powerful combination of consciousness, awareness, and intention, Anastasia has worked with hundreds of clients to create access to a transformational force that aids in letting go of mental, emotional, and/or physical pain, in turn creating lasting inner harmony. She is an ambassador of living a fully integrated, balanced, and intuitive life. Website: thehealingheart.com TikTok: @theheartshines YouTube Channel Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Transcript of this interview Interview recorded October 24, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:04:58 - Out-of-body experience and the dentist chair 00:09:52 - Tapping into Timelessness 00:13:21 - Clearing the Windows of Perception 00:19:19 - The Experience of Bliss in the Void 00:24:37 - The Enigma of Understanding and Knowing 00:31:36 - The Immensity of Soul Experiences 00:38:05 - Oneness in Individuality 00:41:46 - Oneness and the Impact of Actions 00:44:09 - The Expansiveness of Oneness 00:47:17 - Choosing to Experience Others' Feelings 00:50:13 - The Nature of Good and Bad 00:53:11 - Contribution of Profound Experiences 00:57:15 - The Purpose of the Physical Body 01:02:33 - Connecting to the Infinite Knowledge 01:06:56 - The Soul's Return to Oneness 01:09:07 - Connecting with Deceased Relatives 01:11:56 - Life Between Lives 01:14:23 - Unique Insights and Varied Experiences 01:18:07 - The Importance of How You Feel 01:22:46 - The Expansion of Consciousness and Purpose of Creation 01:25:25 - Different Experiences of Physical Life 01:30:22 - The Omniscience of God and the Soul's Connection 01:35:03 - The Power of Anita Morjani's NDE 01:38:33 - The Power of Energy and Vibration in Healing 01:43:02 - The Power of Sound Therapy and its Effects on the Body 01:47:15 - Overcoming Fear and Embracing Change 01:49:50 - Experiencing Peace, Love, and Joy 01:53:34 - The Inspiring Story of a Renowned Saint 01:57:39 - Connecting with The Healing Heart 02:00:15 - Conclusion and Farewell

World-renowned psychic medium Mark Anthony discusses the intersection of spirituality, quantum physics, and Hinduism, exploring topics like reincarnation, afterlife experiences, and the decline of belief in reincarnation in Christianity. He delves into the evolution of psychic abilities in his family history, interpreting messages in readings, and the theory of spirits as electromagnetic energy. The conversation also covers British witches in World War II, absorbing negative energies, historical figures' involvement with psychic phenomenon, and the concept of the electromagnetic soul and afterlife frequencies.

Ann has been practising yoga and meditation for nearly 20 years and has since completed her Masters in the Traditions of Yoga and Meditation from SOAS University with ongoing Sanskrit training. Ann was inspired from an early age by her father’s anecdotal experiences with Kuṇḍalinī and his involvement in experiments with Zen priest and transpersonal scientist, Dr Motoyama. Her own experiences have pointed her towards a phenomenological investigation of the parallels between spontaneous Kuṇḍalinī awakenings and Buddhist paths to enlightenment. Her previous research focuses on the phenomenology of Buddhist and Yogic experiences through practice. Ann is currently researching spontaneous Kuṇḍalinī arousals and how these experiences map onto the path of realisation within Indian Buddhist and Yogic traditions as well as cutting-edge consciousness theory. Her mission is to gain a deeper understanding of the psychological processes that can arise from spontaneous transpersonal experiences or deep meditation practice and how we can safely support others walking this path towards greater wholeness. Website: annmathie.com Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Transcript of this interview Interview recorded October 8, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction and Background 00:04:25 - Kundalini and Theosophy 00:08:29 - Questioning Mainstream Sanity 00:11:53 - Exploring Different Religious Practices 00:16:02 - The Complexity of Traditions and Spiritual Paths 00:19:48 - The Path of Compassion and Moral Behavior 00:23:46 - The Three Components: Rajasic, Sattvic, Tamasic 00:27:39 - Breakthroughs and Trauma in Spiritual Experiences 00:31:07 - The Arhat and Enlightenment in Buddhism 00:34:34 - The Four Stages to Arhant-hood 00:38:12 - The Power of Insight in Teaching and Evaluation of Teachers 00:41:58 - The Importance of a Healthy Guru-Student Relationship 00:45:47 - Spiritual Integrity and Money in Modern Society 00:49:19 - Contrasting skillful means and direct realization 00:53:05 - The Benefits of Meditation Practice 00:56:57 - Dissolving the Illusion of Self-Personality 01:00:27 - Awakening Without Practice 01:04:25 - The Manifestation of Kundalini Energy 01:08:35 - Spontaneous Body Movements and Kriyas 01:12:06 - Letting Go of Stored Emotions 01:15:40 - The Relationship Between Shaking and Psychological Processes 01:19:28 - Managing Kundalini Energy for Individuals with Weak Neural Networks or Trauma 01:23:07 - The Consequences of Mind-Shattering Experiences 01:27:04 - The Challenges of Running a Marathon 01:30:51 - The Path to Enlightenment and Psychological Health 01:34:49 - The 10 Impurities of Insight 01:38:41 - The Importance of the Whole Path 01:42:18 - Finding Balance on the Spiritual Path 01:46:27 - Importance of Cultivating Right Intention 01:50:29 - The Importance of Compassion and Kindness 01:54:14 - A Conversation with Ann Mathie

Dr. Mario Beauregard, PhD., is a neuroscientist currently affiliated with the Department of Psychology, University of Arizona. He has received a bachelor degree in psychology and a doctorate degree in neuroscience from the University of Montreal. He also underwent postdoctoral fellowships at the University of Texas Medical School (Houston) and the Montreal Neurological Institute (MNI), McGill University. Dr. Beauregard is the author of more than 100 publications in neuroscience, psychology, and psychiatry. He was the first neuroscientist to use functional neuroimaging to investigate the neural underpinnings of voluntary control in relation to emotion. Because of his research into the neuroscience of consciousness, he was selected (2000) by the World Media Net to be one of the “One Hundred Pioneers of the 21st Century.” In addition, his groundbreaking research on the neurobiology of spiritual experiences (including near-death experiences) has received international media coverage. In 2008, he was invited to participate in a symposium held at the United Nations. In 2013, he participated in a dialogue with the Dalai Lama in regard to the new science of mind. Dr. Beauregard has appeared over several radio programs in the U.S.A., Canada, and Europe, Asia, and Australia. His research has been featured on TV (Discovery Channel) and in many newspapers and magazines, including Nature, Science, The New Scientist, Scientific American Mind, and The Economist. He has received a number of distinctions, including the Joel F. Lubar Award (International Society for Neuronal Regulation, USA) and the Spectrum Award (The Institutes for the Achievement of Human Potential, USA). Being also an author, Dr. Beauregard has published The Spiritual Brain (Harper Collins, 2007) and Brain Wars (Harper Collins, 2012). In these books, he demonstrates that mind and consciousness are much more than the activity of nerve cells in our brains. He also shows that spirituality is a central feature of human beings that cannot be reduced to physical processes. Beauregard actively contributes to the articulation of the new postmaterialist scientific paradigm. Co-author of the Manifesto for a Postmaterialist Science, which has been signed by several hundreds of scientists, he is also one of the founders of The Academy for the Advancement of Postmaterialist Sciences (AAPS). Movie: Expanding Reality Books: Expanding Reality: The Emergence of Postmaterialist Science The Spiritual Brain: A Neuroscientist's Case for the Existence of the Soul Brain Wars: The Scientific Battle Over the Existence of the Mind and the Proof that Will Change the Way We Live Our Lives Expanding Science Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Transcript of this interview Interview recorded October 1, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:03:27 - Introduction to Dr. Beauregard and his work 00:06:30 - Mystical Experience and Life Mission 00:10:06 - A Life-Changing Experience 00:13:19 - Miraculous Recovery and Spiritual Awakening 00:17:02 - Psychic Experiences and Family Connections 00:20:05 - Prearranged Events and Purification of Sickness 00:24:03 - The Impact of the Scientific Materialist Worldview 00:27:59 - The Manifesto for a Post-Materialist Science 00:32:00 - Playing the Game, Being a Black Sheep 00:35:07 - The Journey from Job Loss to Collaboration 00:38:25 - The Transition Period and the Waning of Materialism 00:41:49 - The Illusion of Self and the Denial of Psi Phenomena 00:44:59 - The Changing Attitude Towards New Ideas 00:48:07 - The Importance of Open-Mindedness and Spiritual Practice 00:51:52 - The Influence of Mind and Non-Local Interactions 00:55:41 - Altered States of Awareness and Neuroplasticity 00:58:57 - Materialism, Reductionism, Scientism, and Determinism

Isira is an awakened spiritual teacher who has been initiated in advanced spiritual practices and rites across a number of traditions including Australian Aboriginal, Yogic Indian, African Shamanism and Tibetan Buddhist. When she was a young adult, Tibetan Lamas, recognized her as an important incarnation and travelled to Adelaide, Australia to bring her to the Himalayas to be ordained by His Holiness the Dalai Lama. Isira is also honored as an Australian Indigenous elder and wisdom keeper. The heart of Isira’s teaching is Holistic Awakening. While the predominant western model of awakening focuses on individual consciousness, Isira’s holistic approach has us awaken to the sacred in all of life. It is an awakening that is integrated, embodied, and grounded, rather than siloed, conceptual, and abstract. Isira believes that, even among those on a committed spiritual path, there is still a deep sense of “something missing.” The human spirit is hungering to be nurtured by the sacred. We know this because we're living in a world that is fractured and conflicted more than ever. And people are reporting a sense of fear, alienation, depression, anxiety, and chronic illness in epidemic numbers. Inspired by the wisdom of indigenous cultures, Isira teaches that we must awaken to what she calls the “Four Sacred Pillars of Life.” While one of these four pillars is the Self or Spirit, they go beyond the Self to include our interconnected relationship with three other essential dimensions of life—the second is nature or earth, the third is kinship or others, and the fourth is the cosmos or universe. While conventional thinking assumes that our spiritual connection must start with Self or Spirit, instead, Isira teaches that for awakening to be holistic, it is essential that we start with our connection to earth or nature. Through holistic awakening, we move out of the mind into a lived experience in which the sacred is restored to each moment of our day-to-day life. As we integrate our awakening, a natural byproduct is that we relate in a deeper, more meaningful way—respecting, honouring and loving all of life. Simply, we live sacredly. Books: Awakening You: Embodying Peace, Love and Freedom on Earth (enter code ISIRA010 to access eBook for no charge) Buddha on the Dance Floor Website: isira.com Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. First BatGap interview with Isira Summary and transcript of this interview. Interview recorded September 25, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump 00:04:56 - The Power of Spiritual Connection and Ancestral Guidance 00:10:23 - Indigenous Wisdom and Lore 00:15:32 - Interactions in Dream State and Meditation 00:20:14 - Appointment as a Lama's Consultant 00:25:07 - The Emergence of Nature and Creation 00:30:32 - Embracing Holistic Development and Avoiding Narrow Paths 00:35:10 - Incorporating Boundaries and Boundless 00:40:38 - The Interconnectedness of All Living Beings 00:45:53 - The Importance of Connectivity with Nature and the Cosmos 00:50:54 - The Value of Deeper Connections with Earth 00:55:33 - Connecting with Nature in a Modern World 01:00:35 - The Role of Indigenous Cultures in Awakening Humanity 01:05:44 - Indigenous People as Transceivers of Natural Lore and Values 01:10:31 - Addressing the Root Cause of Crime 01:15:32 - Dissolving Centralized Systems 01:20:38 - Healing Wounds and Transgressions 01:25:29 - The Four Pillars of Connection and Fulfillment 01:30:47 - The Four Pillars of Balance 01:35:55 - Restoring Balance within Ourselves and the World 01:40:49 - Finding Beauty in Life's Experiences 01:45:42 - The Cosmic Perspective 01:50:21 - The perception of reality 01:55:48 - Anchoring with the Senses 02:00:35 - Wrapping up the interview and answering viewer questions

Brian Thomas Swimme did his doctoral work in gravitational dynamics in the Department of Mathematics at the University of Oregon. From the publication of The Universe Is a Green Dragon to the Emmy Award–winning PBS documentary Journey of the Universe, Swimme has articulated the cosmology of a creative universe, one in which human intelligence plays an essential role. For three decades as a professor in the Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness program at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco, he taught evolutionary cosmology to graduate students in the humanities. Currently he is director of the Third Story of the Universe at Human Energy, a nonprofit public benefit organization. A detailed description of his books and media works can be found at storyoftheuniverse.org. About the documentary, Journey of the Universe. Human Energy presents Story of the Noosphere Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group. Summary and transcript of this interview Interview recorded September 18, 2022 YouTube Video Chapters: 00:00:00 - Introduction to Brian Thomas Swimme and Cosmology 00:03:59 - Two Meanings of Cosmologist 00:08:00 - The Relationship Between Human Mind and the Universe 00:12:49 - The Power of Scientific Knowledge in Understanding Ourselves 00:16:55 - The Color of the Universe 00:20:55 - The Nature of Laws and the Mystery of the Universe 00:25:36 - The Ontology of Intelligence and Consciousness 00:29:10 - The Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness and the Experience of Reality 00:34:14 - The Ontological Connection between Individuals and the Universe 00:38:50 - The Interplay of Science and Spirituality 00:42:17 - The Mystery of Mathematics and Science 00:46:22 - The Influence of Teilhard de Chardin and Thomas Berry 00:50:12 - The Interdependence of Science and Spirituality 00:53:43 - The Noosphere: United Humanity and Earth's Evolution 00:58:46 - The Special Quality of Humanity and Symbolic Consciousness 01:03:50 - The Dark Age and the Loss of Knowledge 01:07:45 - Ignorance of Extinction 01:10:57 - Co-evolution of Technology and Spirituality 01:15:02 - Becoming beings who see the whole first 01:19:50 - The Bhagavad Gita and Being Established in Action 01:23:55 - The Vast Intelligence Within You 01:27:25 - The Noosphere in Action 01:32:05 - The Noosphere as a Collective Consciousness 01:35:24 - Deepening Collective Intelligence 01:38:19 - The Dream of the Earth and Integral Ecology 01:43:30 - Embracing Change: A Deep Change of Heart and Mind 01:46:42 - A Breaking of Symmetry in the Early Universe 01:50:50 - The Incessant Creativity of the Universe 01:54:52 - Matter's Intrinsic Property of Self-Organization 01:59:13 - The Excitement of Matter and Spiritual Development 02:02:39 - A Round-Trip from Tacoma to Berkeley