
The Online Course Show
The Online Course Show is all about exchanging knowledge and helping course creators succeed. I LOVE going straight to the source and hearing people’s firsthand knowledge about what has worked for their business. And it’s always great to share my own observations and bounce ideas off other people in the same entrepreneurial space.
There is something for everyone on the show. Funnel hacking, high level strategy, nitty gritty processes, book reviews, productivity tips… the list goes on.
My guests and our discussions run the gamut: we leave no niche uncovered and no online course topic unexplored!
Maybe you’re just starting to think about creating an online course. Or maybe you’re 15 years in with a flourishing membership and millions of YouTube views. No matter where you are in your journey, The Online Course Show is the best way to stay current on online course trends and learn from successful course creators.
Latest episodes

Aug 19, 2021 • 23min
178: I’m Testing New Pricing… Here’s the Results
In this episode I go over:
My house/office situation
Our YouTube process
A recap of Relaunch Magic
Split Testing
My new pricing model for Piano In 21 Days
A big goof I made last month in my business

Jul 17, 2021 • 19min
177: Make Your Site Insanely Fast in Just 10 Minutes (I Achieved a Speed Score of 100)
In this episode I share with you an awesome 3 step process to achieve amazing website speed:
1 - NitroPack (https://oc.show/nitro)2 - Cloudflare Advanced WordPress optimization3 - Perfmatters plugin (https://perfmatters.io)

Jun 22, 2021 • 1h 30min
176: Succeed with FB Ads with as Little as $5 per Day (featuring Salome Schillack)
On today’s episode, I have the pleasure of talking with Salome Schillack. Salome is a Facebook Ads wizard and she is dropping knowledge that will help you dial in your Facebook Ads game for as little as $5 a day. We discuss the types of ads, creating a custom audience, lead magnets, and having our names butchered. Be sure to stay tuned until the end of the episode for an update on The Online Course Show. Hope you enjoy!
“Even when you didn’t fail, think you’ve failed, then you should just do it again.”
- Salome Schillack
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(1:25) Catching up
(3:30) Is Dr. K.’s podcast already expanding?
(8:30) Let’s talk Enneagram
(20:14) Dr. K.’s school story
(24:00) Who’s what Enneagram type on the team?
(25:45) Introducing Salome Schillack
(27:30) What does Salome do differently?
(30:11) Optimization ad options for Facebook
(36:05) Custom Audiences
(42:20) The goal of getting off social media
(45:00) Who is a good fit for Salome’s agency or courses
(53:50) Lead Magnets
(56:30) The gap between the client and the Facebook Ads Manager
(1:00:16) Salome’s background
(1:07:05) A tangent on butchered names
(1:10:40) Salome’s advice on where to start
(1:13:50) Where to find Salome
(1:15:05) Dr. K.’s takeaways
(1:22:00) Changes for the podcast
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Resources and Recommendations:
Spreaker
The Road Back to You
Graham Cochrane
I Propose A Story
Nate Dodson
Amy Porterfield
Hustle and Flowchart
Ep. 171
Mike Michalowicz
Show Her Off
BigSpy
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert

Jun 8, 2021 • 1h 36min
175: How to Succeed with Just One $5,000 Coaching Program (featuring Michael Walker)
On today’s episode, I’m talking with Michael Walker from modern-musician.com. Michael’s story is awe-inspiring. From an almost dental student with musical dreams to a successful musician coach, Michael has turned one program into an incredible business. Join us as we discuss coaching vs. course, presenting a high ticket offer with confidence, and finding the right team. Hope you enjoy!
“You have the map. If you keep coming back to it, you can get there. But you’ve got to keep going. You have to put one foot in front of the other one. Keep going.”
-Michael Walker
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(5:49) My current tech stack
(11:03) Dr. K.’s new podcast
(18:58) Introducing Michael Walker
(21:33) Paradise Fears
(23:50) Tour Hacking
(26:38) The motivator
(32:23) The idea
(35:57) The next steps
(45:10) Coaching vs. Course
(47:50) Scaling the package
(53:49) Program structure
(58:08) Why not offer a course?
(1:02:20) Presenting the high ticket offer
(1:06:30) Finding the right team
(1:16:43) Something cool Michael has been able to do because of his business
(1:19:50) Final advice from Michael
(1:23:49) Dr. K.’s takeaways
(1:28:49) Thoughts on having a coaching program
(1:33:50) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Michael’s website
Resources and Recommendations:
Kinsta
Wordpress
BuddyBoss
LearnDash
WooCommerce
PayPal
Stripe
CartFlows
Elementor
WP Fusion
ActiveCampaign
Automator WP
Zapier
Events Calendar
GamiPress
Affiliate WP
Kajabi
Wes McDowell
Big Brothers Big Sisters
Jonathan Mendonsa
Jeff Walker
Eban Pagan
The 4-Hour Workweek
Think and Grow Rich
Profit First
Rocket Fuel
Tony Robbins
Graham Cochrane
Granola Face Skin Care
I Propose A Story
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:(0:59) Catching Up/ Platform Update
Wellness Program Expert

May 25, 2021 • 1h 37min
174: Partnering with an Expert for Wild Online Course Success (featuring eCommerce Uncensored)
In today’s episode, I’m chatting with Kevin and Jason from eCommerce Uncensored. Kevin and Jason have been working together for over 18 years now, so they know a thing or two about marketing. Join us for an awesome conversation around Facebook ads, knowing your customer, and the power of partnering up.
“We worked at it. We failed a lot. We created our own course… it completely flopped. Spent a ton of money. But it was a huge learning experience. And that’s what everything that led up to this point has been.”
- Kevin, eCommerce Uncensored
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:55) Catching up with Dr. K
(6:00) Platform updates and migration
(9:30) What’s my retail therapy?
(11:50) Introducing the guys from Ecommerce Uncensored
(13:35) Journal of Wildlife Photography
(19:50) The one thing that’s most important
(22:27) Giveaways and the legalities
(33:00) Where’d you start?
(35:00) Running Facebook ads and ROI
(48:15) The power of partnering up
(55:45) Why did Kevin and Jason's course flop?!
(1:02:12) The buying decision discussion
(1:04:10) The benefit of Facebook groups
(1:08:45) Apple updates and Facebook
(1:50:50) Parting words
(1:18:27) Dr. K’s takeaways
(1:21:40) A giveaway idea
(1:35:38) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Ecommerce Uncensored
Journal of Wildlife Photography
Resources and Recommendations:
Jacques’ Episode with Ecommerce Uncensored
Alesis Recital Keyboard
Alesis Review
Paul Bright Design Agency
BuddyBoss
LearnDash
Post-its
Whiteboard Finance
Russell Brunson
WooCommerce
Abbey Ashley’s Episode
Dave Ramsey
News Feed Eradicator
Facebook Pixl
Nate Dodson’s Microgreens Course
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert

May 11, 2021 • 1h 18min
173: One Niche, One Funnel, and One Course (featuring Lauren Wrighton)
On today’s episode, I’m chatting with online course creator and fellow podcaster Lauren Wrighton. Lauren is an excellent example of doing one thing and doing it well. Her simple approach to her niche, her funnel, and her course make for a super-streamlined process. Sit back, relax, and enjoy!
“Talk to the real people. Listen to what they're actually saying. Listen to the words that they’re using. Because when you use their words back at them, they’re like, ‘He or she gets me. They’re listening to what my real concerns are.'”
- Lauren Wrighton
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(1:10) Val’s piano progress
(5:18) An update on our current and future projects
(6:24) Dr. K’s crazy Lyme Disease story
(13:00) Introducing Lauren Wrighton
(14:20) Who does Lauren help?
(16:02) So, what is a Podcast Manager and what do they do?
(19:53) Audio editing software
(22:58) How do people enter Lauren’s world?
(24:45) Lauren’s webinar
(29:20) The goal of the funnel
(32:50) Marketing after the deadline
(35:35) Who did Lauren learn from?
(37:03) So, what’s inside the course?
(39:00) How the course came to be
(42:30) Lauren shares a cool impact story
(44:04) Overcoming roadblocks
(45:02) The day-to-day
(48:47) What would Lauren do differently?
(49:45) Lauren’s advice
(51:55) Dr. K’s takeaways and BTBD (Break The Bachelor's Degree)
(54:45 ) Who should have a podcast?
(1:00:00) How we get guests for The Online Course Show
(1:05:15) Dr. K. finds a great opportunity for a prank
(1:08:50) Overcoming the fear of overwhelming your customer’s inbox
(1:16:56) Wrapping Up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Lauren’s Course
Lauren’s Website
Lauren’s Podcast
Resources and Recommendations:
Patient Zero Podcast
David’s Lyme Disease Video
Parrot Padcaster
Audacity
Audition
Descript
Abbey Ashley’s Episode
Gina Horkey’s Episode
ConvertKit
Deadline Funnel
Haley Burkhead
Teachable
Jonathan Mendonsa’s Talent Stacker
Lindsay Marsh’s Graphic Design Course
Graham Cochrane Podcast
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert

Apr 27, 2021 • 1h 44min
172: Ask Yourself “How Reversible Is This?” and Keep Moving Forward (featuring Shayna Oliveira)
In today’s episode, I’m talking with Shayna Oliveira, podcaster and creator of EspressoEnglish.net. Shayna has created a thriving online course business teaching others English on their own schedule. We dive into how the business was born, the pandemic’s effect on her business, and asking the question, “How reversible is this?” Enjoy!
“Take action. The best way to learn is to implement and then see what works or doesn’t work for your niche or your audience. It’s great to learn strategies from mentors and role models, but it's only by putting them into practice that you’re going to see are they going to work for you... Treat it like an experiment.”
-Shayna Oliveira
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:42) Dr. K.’s Date Day and Val’s latest course purchase
(1:36) My physical packs for Piano In 21 Days
(6:50) My first student on the new platform
(10:20) Learning with the Bootcamp Ride-Along
(12:25) What’s next?
(14:30) What about the Facebook group?
(16:04) David’s Dumb and Dumber video tip
(19:19) Introducing Shayna
(22:29) Doing it the hard way
(23:38) The end game and starting a business
(25:55) A false start and a real start
(30:08) An idea from a podcast and a college
(34:55) How does Shayna help
(38:43) Course vs. Tutor
(41:07) A decision against community
(43:20) How reversible is this?
(48:06) Shayna’s podcast
(50:52) Knowing when to take the business full-time
(54:00) The Pandemic Effect
(57:48) Shayna’s software stack
(1:03:27) Experimenting with Ads
(1:08:00) Shayna’s day-to-day
(1:10:05) Staying consistent
(1:14:40) Podcast passion project
(1:18:15) Shayna’s advice
(1:20:08) David’s Takeaways
(1:30:27) David, the expert on his own opinion
(1:33:35) Cryptocurrency tangent
(1:40:19) Facebook ad strategy
(1:43:00) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Shayna’s Course
Shayna’s Podcast
Shayna’s Youtube channel
Resources and Recommendations:
ActiveCampaign
Tropical MBA Podcast
MemberMouse
WP Fusion
LearnDash
BuddyBoss
Zapier
Show Her Off
WordPress
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert

Apr 13, 2021 • 1h 50min
171: Clubhouse, Learning From Failures, and the Best Ways to Monetize an Audience (Featuring Joe Fier & Matt Wolfe)
Today, I’m sitting down to chat with the guys from Hustle and Flowchart. Matt Wolfe and Joe Fier have been working together in different capacities since 2007. Matt and Joe share their thoughts on Clubhouse, learning from failures, using your superpowers to monetize an audience, and having a successful partnership. Lots of great takeaways from these guys, so enjoy!
“Here's what I realized… the good ideas and the good conversations, they don't stop. There’s always going to be one going on.”
- Matt Wolfe
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:45) An update on my new course and platform launch
(3:57) Will Dr. K’s wife finally be joining my course?
(6:57) Introducing today’s guests and how I linked up with them
(8:20) Welcoming Matt and Joe
(10:32) What are Matt and Joe most proud of?
(16:22) Money vs. impact
(19:38) How Matt and Joe ended up working together
(24:30) Being comfortable and losing the filters
(29:55) The two-headed dragon
(31:46) A brief beer detour
(34:04) The key to a successful partnership
(37:15) Tapping into your superpowers
(41:50) The simplicity of growing an audience
(44:29) Monetization options
(47:15) Matt and Joe’s membership
(51:06) So... where’s the course?
(1:00:04) Clubhouse and Tyrese Gibson
(1:09:48) Matt and Joe’s favorite tools for business
(1:17:00) Dream 100
(1:23:05) Where to find Matt and Joe
(1:26:21) David’s thoughts and takeaways
(1:32:09) Should I share my first video?
(1:35:20) Bartering and the roof story
(1:38:50) David’s Clubhouse animosity and an alternative platform
(1:43:30) Am I leaving ClickFunnels?
(1:45:41) David and I discuss our Dream 100
(1:49:19) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Hustle and Flowchart Podcast
PodHacker (*course coming soon!)
Find Joe on all platforms @joefier
Find Matt on Clubhouse @mattwolfe and all other platforms @mattrwolfe
Resources and Recommendations:
Deadline Funnel
Nate Dodson
Austin Netzley
From 6 to 7 Figures
The 4-Hour Workweek
Rich Dad Poor Dad
Tony Robbins
Frank Kern
Russell Brunson
Ryan Dice
DISC Assessment
Kolbe Assessment
Dan Norris
Clubhouse
News Feed Eradicator
Loom
Sparktoro
Moz
DropFunnels
ThriveCart
MembersPRO
ActiveCampaign
ConvertBox
LearnDash
BuddyBoss
Headliner
Graham Cochran
ChooseFI
Mark Kaiser
Stereo
Zapier
Stripe
Darknet Diaries
Mooview
Lime Link
Jim Collins
Gary Vaynerchuk
Dream 100
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert

Mar 30, 2021 • 1h 27min
170: Replacing a Google Salary with a Super-Niche Weaving Course (Featuring Tien Chiu)
Today, I’m talking with former Google project manager turned "Art Scientist" weaver, Tien Chiu. When she fell in love with weaving over ten years ago, she never imagined it would become her career. Tien shares about turning her passion into a successful online course, the benefit of making mistakes, and how her wedding dress landed in a museum. Hope you enjoy!
“...I know if it's my dream course, it's probably a lot of other people's dream course.”
- Jessica Rose
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(1:17) Candy bowl catch-up
(4:33) Paying it forward and the power of teaching others
(7:37) Tools I’m enjoying
(13:18) What’s causing the increase in The Online Course Community Facebook group?
(16:20) Let’s talk about weaving
(19:10) What and who does Tien teach?
(28:20) Success in online courses
(29:39) Free vs. paid classes
(33:13) Live launching
(36:58) Moving students from free to paid classes
(39:13) Motivating students in free courses
(40:32) Why live?
(43:52) What would Tien do differently?
(45:50) Making the move from tech to weaving
(50:00) What if it didn’t work out?
(52:25) Educating people on a problem they didn’t know they had
(55:58) Tien’s advice on making mistakes
(56:58) Her wedding dress and how it ended up in a museum
(59:35) What does being a successful course creator mean to Tien?
(1:01:55) More advice for course creators
(1:04:08) Where to find Tien
(1:04:28) David’s thoughts
(1:06:06) Momentum and getting the party started
(1:08:30) David, the Doner Kebab King of America
(1:10:11) Buying email blasts/ads for your niche
(1:15:02) David and I share our engagement stories
(1:23:05) Branding yourself and David’s new title for me
(1:25:21) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Tien Chiu’s Warp and Weave
Tien Chui’s website
Resources and Recommendations:
News Feed Eradicator
BuddyBoss
YouTube
Freedom
Auphonic
My Interview with Success With Soul
My Interview with E-Commerce Uncensored
Thinkific
Zoom
Seth Godin
The 4-Hour Workweek
Traffic Secrets
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert

Mar 16, 2021 • 1h 20min
169: How to Sell (& Serve) More to the Same Customers and Make £1 Million a Year from Jewelry Courses (Featuring Jessica Rose)
Today, I am sitting down with online jewelry course creator Jessica Rose. Jessica has been teaching jewelry-making for over ten years through physical and online courses. Now fully online, Jessica shares her techniques for launching strong, planning and strategizing for the year, and how to sell and serve more to your existing customers. Enjoy!
“...I know if it's my dream course, it's probably a lot of other people's dream course.”
- Jessica Rose
In This Episode, We Talked About:
(0:43) Thoughts on our intro
(5:48) Recording updates
(8:56) Update on David’s financial question
(13:08) Introducing Jessica Rose
(14:08) Who does Jessica help and how?
(16:16) How it started
(17:56) Covid and the pivot
(23:33) Transitioning the team
(24:52) Jessica’s secret to launching
(27:25) Setting a goal and doubling it
(35:01) Course vs. membership, or both?
(39:05) What lights Jessica up the most?
(40:45) What does her day-to-day look like?
(43:34) Finding and keeping good staff
(47:07) A first taste of success
(51:52) Using YouTube to build community
(54:51) Jessica’s top traffic sources
(58:11) Trying the 9-5
(59:56) Using Instagram and TikTok
(1:01:35) Jessica’s strategy and planning technique
(1:07:16) Where to find Jessica
(1:08:18) Welcome back/ David’s thoughts
(1:09:41) Mindset techniques
(1:11:54) The importance of building a loyal audience
(1:16:16) Repurposing content and pondering TikTok
(1:19:43) Wrapping up
That’s all for now, folks! See you on the next episode of The Online Course Show.
Links
Offers and Tools:
Bonjoro Free Trial
ClickFunnels Free Trial
Guest Links:
Jessica’s website
Jeweller’s Academy Instagram
Resources and Recommendations:
Hardcore History
Piano Tone
Nate Dodson’s Microgreens Course
Amy Porterfield’s Podcast
Tony Robbins
Jay Shetty
Elise Darma
TikTok
Youtube
Episode 61
Episode 167
Episode 168
Jacques’ Courses:
Piano in 21 Days
David’s Courses:
Wellness Program Expert
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