The Curiosity Mindset Podcast

Welcome to the fifth episode of the Curiosity Mindset podcast and the final in this limited series on the future of leadership development.Introduction and contextIn February 2024, the inaugural Leadership Development Summit was held in Tasmania, Australia.As a direct outcome, a white paper was produced identifying 5 major challenges:1) Research-practice gap2) Divergent worldviews3) Challenges of leadership measurement4) Complexity and systems thinking5) Future of leadership developmentIn this limited series, I will be interviewing 5 people who contributed to the paper to reflect on what's changed since the 2024 summit, what new challenges are being experienced by leaders, and what they believe we need to be talking about at the next summit in December 2025, in Canberra.About our guestIn this final episode, I speak with Andrea Hogg. Andrea Hogg is a highly experienced leader in adult education, leadership development, and community resilience, currently serving as the Director of Leadership Innovation at the Australian Rural Leadership Foundation (ARLF). She is dedicated to fostering leadership in rural, regional, and remote Australia, ensuring communities are equipped to navigate complex challenges such as climate change, demographic shifts, and economic transitions.With a strong background in leadership program design, adult learning theory, and community development, Andrea has played a pivotal role in shaping experiential learning programs for up to 800 participants annually. She specialises in place-based leadership development, incorporating First Nations knowledge systems, adaptive change frameworks, and trauma-informed practice to strengthen social capital in communities. Her work includes designing resilience programs for disaster recovery and mentorship initiatives to support individuals in regional Australia.She is also deeply involved in academic collaboration, contributing to research-informed leadership practices that bridge the gap between theory and practice and is a committee member for the design and delivery of the Leadership Development Summit in Canberra in December 8th to 10th. In this episodeIn our conversation, we explore the themes of the forthcoming Summit: Tensions, Terrains, and Turfs. We discuss what it means to engage with tension and conflict, psychological safety, who is involved in the world of leadership development, and what type of impact we are really trying to seek in our work. Links1) Tickets to the next Leadership Development Summit are on sale now: ⁠⁠⁠⁠LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT 2025⁠⁠⁠⁠2) The White Paper is here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠White Paper Leadership Summit⁠⁠⁠⁠3) Connect with Andrea Hogg on LinkedIn: Andrea Hogg | LinkedIn4) Subscribe to my Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Curiosity Mindset | Scott Ko | Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠5) Check out my website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.scottko.com⁠⁠⁠⁠6) Keen to chat with me? Let's have a virtual coffee: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Calendly

In this engaging discussion, Dr. Aiden M. A. Thornton, a complexity leadership expert and former Menzies Senior Research Fellow, dives into the evolving landscape of leadership development. He distinguishes between leader and leadership development, critiques fad-driven practices, and emphasizes the need for measurement literacy. Dr. Thornton presents seven guiding questions for the future of leadership, discusses how AI might reshape leadership roles, and highlights the importance of truth and ethics in decision-making. It's a thought-provoking exploration of complexity in leadership!

Welcome to the third episode of the Curiosity Mindset podcast.Introduction and contextIn February 2024, the inaugural Leadership Development Summit was held in Tasmania, Australia.As a direct outcome, a white paper was produced identifying 5 major challenges:1) Research-practice gap2) Divergent worldviews3) Challenges of leadership measurement4) Complexity and systems thinking5) Future of leadership developmentIn this limited series, I will be interviewing 5 people who contributed to the paper to reflect on what's changed since the 2024 summit, what new challenges are being experienced by leaders, and what they believe we need to be talking about at the next summit in December 2025, in Canberra.About our guestIn this third episode, I speak with Angela Driver. Angela has been with Tasmanian Leaders since 2011 and became CEO in 2021, bringing a deep commitment to developing leadership that’s grounded, inclusive and future-focused.She has completed the Art and Practice of Adaptive Leadership at the Harvard Kennedy School and earned a Brain-Based Coaching certificate through the NeuroLeadership Institute - formalising what she’s always been passionate about: helping people grow, adapt, and lead with clarity and care.In this episodeIn our conversation, we focus on the current challenges faced by leaders, whether the work of leadership development has had an impact, and what skills people might need for the future.Links1) Tickets to the next Leadership Development Summit are on sale now: ⁠⁠LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT 2025⁠⁠2) The White Paper is here: ⁠⁠White Paper Leadership Summit⁠⁠3) Connect with Angela Driver on LinkedIn: Angela Driver | LinkedIn4) Subscribe to my Substack: ⁠⁠Curiosity Mindset | Scott Ko | Substack⁠⁠5) Check out my website: ⁠⁠www.scottko.com⁠⁠6) Keen to chat with me? Let's have a virtual coffee: ⁠⁠Calendly

Welcome to the first episode of the Curiosity Mindset podcast.Introduction and contextIn February 2024, the inaugural Leadership Development Summit was held in Tasmania, Australia.As a direct outcome, a white paper was produced identifying 5 major challenges:1) Research-practice gap2) Divergent worldviews3) Challenges of leadership measurement4) Complexity and systems thinking5) Future of leadership developmentIn this limited series, I will be interviewing 5 people who contributed to the paper to reflect on what's changed since the 2024 summit, what new challenges are being experienced by leaders, and what they believe we need to be talking about at the next summit in December 2025, in Canberra.About our guestIn the second episode, I speak with Dr Carolina Boutin-Pinto. She is an experienced organisational development practitioner with finely-tuned skills as a facilitator, designer, manager, coach, and consultant honed in the private, public and community sectors.Her passion is to design and drive inclusive processes that result in effective and inclusive community and organisational dynamics.Today, she's the Principal in charge of Organisational Development at the Hobart City Council.In this episodeIn our conversation, we focus heavily on the distinction between leadership and management. We explore the research / practice gap between academia and practice, divergent world views, and impact measurement.Links1) Tickets to the next Leadership Development Summit are on sale now: ⁠LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT 2025⁠2) The White Paper is here: ⁠White Paper Leadership Summit⁠3) Connect with Dr Carolina Boutin-Pinto on LinkedIn: Dr Carolina Bouten-Pinto, GAICD | LinkedIn4) Subscribe to my substack: ⁠Curiosity Mindset | Scott Ko | Substack⁠5) Check out my website: ⁠www.scottko.com⁠6) Keen to chat with me? Let's have a virtual coffee: ⁠Calendly

Welcome to the first episode of the Curiosity Mindset podcast.Introduction and contextWe're kicking things off with a 5-part limited series on the future of leadership development.In February 2024, the inaugural Leadership Development Summit was held in Tasmania, Australia.As a direct outcome, a white paper was produced identifying 5 major challenges:1) Research-practice gap2) Divergent worldviews3) Challenges of leadership measurement4) Complexity and systems thinking5) Future of leadership developmentIn this limited series, I will be interviewing 5 people who contributed to the paper to reflect on what's changed since the 2024 summit, what new challenges are being experienced by leaders, and what they believe we need to be talking about at the next summit in December 2025, in Canberra.About our guestIn the first episode, I speak with Dr Werner Vogels. He's a neuropsychologist, an academic, a leadership development practitioner, and mentor, with a particular focus right now in building resilient rural communities as part of the Australian Rural Leadership Foundation.He's passionate about exploring ways to grow, learn and connect, individually, in community and teams, making sense of why we connect the way we do, with whom and how, how we frame our worldview, and then apply that knowledge to what we design, desire and re-construct.In this episodeIn our conversation, we focus a great deal on the challenges of recognising our own worldviews, working with people who possess divergent worldviews, and how this links back into the organisations and communities we live in every day.Links1) Tickets to the next Leadership Development Summit are on sale now: LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT 20252) The White Paper is here: White Paper Leadership Summit3) Connect with Dr Werner Vogels on LinkedIn: Werner Vogels, PhD | LinkedIn4) Subscribe to my substack: Curiosity Mindset | Scott Ko | Substack5) Check out my website: www.scottko.com6) Keen to chat with me? Let's have a virtual coffee: Calendly