Episode 2 - Dr Carolina Boutin-Pinto - On leadership vs management, the research-practice gap, and impact measurement

Welcome to the first episode of the Curiosity Mindset podcast.

Introduction and context

In February 2024, the inaugural Leadership Development Summit was held in Tasmania, Australia.

As a direct outcome, a white paper was produced identifying 5 major challenges:

1) Research-practice gap

2) Divergent worldviews

3) Challenges of leadership measurement

4) Complexity and systems thinking

5) Future of leadership development

In this limited series, I will be interviewing 5 people who contributed to the paper to reflect on what's changed since the 2024 summit, what new challenges are being experienced by leaders, and what they believe we need to be talking about at the next summit in December 2025, in Canberra.

About our guest

In the second episode, I speak with Dr Carolina Boutin-Pinto.

She is an experienced organisational development practitioner with finely-tuned skills as a facilitator, designer, manager, coach, and consultant honed in the private, public and community sectors.

Her passion is to design and drive inclusive processes that result in effective and inclusive community and organisational dynamics.

Today, she's the Principal in charge of Organisational Development at the Hobart City Council.

In this episode

In our conversation, we focus heavily on the distinction between leadership and management. We explore the research / practice gap between academia and practice, divergent world views, and impact measurement.

Links

1) Tickets to the next Leadership Development Summit are on sale now: ⁠LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT SUMMIT 2025⁠

2) The White Paper is here: ⁠White Paper Leadership Summit⁠

3) Connect with Dr Carolina Boutin-Pinto on LinkedIn: Dr Carolina Bouten-Pinto, GAICD | LinkedIn

4) Subscribe to my substack: ⁠Curiosity Mindset | Scott Ko | Substack⁠

5) Check out my website: ⁠www.scottko.com⁠

6) Keen to chat with me? Let's have a virtual coffee: ⁠Calendly